Re: [TruthTalk] CSL comparable to Elvis??

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
onduit for Christianity? Christians get so EXCITED about a Movie, do they get so excited about Jesus? Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The more I read about this fellow the more alarming it becomes. Of course none of it would matter to Lance, but t

[TruthTalk] CSL comparable to Elvis??

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
The more I read about this fellow the more alarming it becomes. Of course none of it would matter to Lance, but there is much more mixture than I had previously suspected.   C. S. Lewis SuperstarHow a reserved British intellectual with a checkered pedigree became a rock star for evangelicals

[TruthTalk] Is Judas going to Heaven?

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
Here is one review from Amazon: Every Christian I've ever heard or read has condemned Judas to hell...until Anderson. Anderson's examination of both the Biblical story of Judas and Jesus' teaching on forgiveness demonstrate two things. Christians should have undying hope for everyone, even th

Re: [TruthTalk] The accuser is busy ....

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
roding of the family unit, the confusion of gender roles, the rise of moral relativism and humanism, the rise of sexual promescuity, etc.    On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 11:38:17 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Feminists! Don't you read what she writes? From: Ju

Re: [TruthTalk] Putting people down

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
,  she will find herself stunted.   I know of many who ,  after coming to the Lord,  have refused their own experiences with retardation as a their finale.    Thank God we don't have to be right.  jd   From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christine is mature spiritually wha

Re: [TruthTalk] The accuser is busy ....

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
I didn't see Christine putting anyone down.  Who exactly do you reference?   On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 11:23:43 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Why go to all that bother when you can just join Christine in 'putting them down'? Duh! From

Re: [TruthTalk] Putting people down

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
You got the subject like right this time Lance.  Put down has become your forte   On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:49:35 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Indeed Judy!! Anyone old enough to recall Edgar Bergen & Charley McCarthy? From: Judy Taylor

Re: [TruthTalk] The accuser is busy ....

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
me of those feminists that either/both of you have befriended, listened to and, prayed with. (Please, no signs!)  From: Judy Taylor   So where are the grounds for your accusation - where does it come from?   On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:24:30 -0500 "Lance Muir&qu

Re: [TruthTalk] The accuser is busy ....

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
TED]> writes: I'm sure you don't! From: Judy Taylor   Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lance not having anything to contribute is back to his old word games I don't recall pronouncing anything at all having to do with evangelism...

Re: [TruthTalk] Putting people down

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
-0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With great ease and conviction of heart.   Christine is a kid .  Timothy was discipled by Paul.    :-)  jd  From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't hold her in less esteem because of her age.  Timothy was a pastor wasn't he?

Re: [TruthTalk] The accuser is busy ....

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
So where are the grounds for your accusation - where does it come from?   On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:24:30 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I'm sure you don't! From: Judy Taylor   Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lance not having anything to

truthtalk@mail.innglory.org

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
To test them DaveH.  Faith is ALWAYS tested.   On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 07:24:10 -0800 Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: He did not plan for them to fall.DAVEH:  If that is so, then why do you think he placed the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden, Terry?    Rath

Re: [TruthTalk] TT's Feminine Mythtique

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
You are at least being honest about this JD - Excellent trait .   On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 10:13:33 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:   Forget it Lance, I've been there and it's a one way street to nowhere  big waste of time.  =  "I haven't a clue."

Re: [TruthTalk] Putting people down

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
Don't hold her in less esteem because of her age.  Timothy was a pastor wasn't he?  I see it the same way she does and I have children who are older than 20 something.  You don't understand her POV JD Kevin is for the Truth. How can you argue with that???   On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 10:03:03 -0500

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance not having anything to contribute is back to his old word games....

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
I don't recall pronouncing anything at all having to do with evangelism...   On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:57:12 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Judy pronounces relational evangelism with feminists A WASTE OF TIME! Want to add anyone else to the list?    

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says: IF YA WANTS TA LOOK LIKE 'EM THEN READ 'EM

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
The difference is in the way we read.  You do not respect/revere me in the way you do your favorite theologians and authors and that makes all the difference.  They are your teachers... and they are who you will become like   On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:55:16 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [TruthTalk] TT's Feminine Mythtique

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
Forget it Lance, I've been there and it's a one way street to nowhere  big waste of time.   On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:27:01 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Have either of you examined the role of your churches vis a vis that horrid 'feminism'?   Let me hear from either

[TruthTalk] the Sneaky Pagan

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
If you want to look like Lewis & Tolkien read them - If you want to look like Jesus - Selah!!  Let them "humanize" you or trust Jesus to send the Promise and make you part of a "New Creation" in Him. C.S. Lewis, the Sneaky PaganThe author of A Field Guide to Narnia says Lewis wove pre-Christ

Re: [TruthTalk] Putting people down

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
Amen Christine!!  Agreed ...   Back in the 1960's  misguided soul that I was, I was looking for truth in all the wrong places and as a mother of two young daughters found myself with a friend in her rcc church on Sundays (while living in the Bible Belt no less). Betty Friedan's book The Femin

[TruthTalk] More Musing......

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
  Traditions have replaced the Word of God ...   People whose hearts are set on the flesh nature need a physical tangible God ...   Today this need is fulfilled through a form of godliness manifested by many religious organizations and doctrinal structures ...   These like the golden calf, h

Re: [TruthTalk] There he goes again

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
And of course me too!!  judyt    On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 05:26:21 -0800 (PST) Christine Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JD wrote:You have allies on this forum but no real brethren I consider Kevin a dear brother and a man of God. You do not speak for me on this, JD. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrot

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance thinks it uncool to be a Biblical inerrantist even tho he sells Bibles at his store.

2005-12-06 Thread Judy Taylor
 Judy says:'I don't read novels, we are cautioned to guard our hearts with all diligence...   Well at least you got that right; (my stand that is, you can do what you like)  I don't sit under false prophets either As for Wagner and Wimber.  I don't mind telling - that is, after you tell Iz

Re: [TruthTalk] Separation

2005-12-06 Thread Judy Taylor
You haven't heard that from me Lance; actually it is one of your favorite lines and it probably doesn't hurt bookselling in the least.   On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 06:34:46 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Don't criticize what you haven't read, Iz (Judy). Wait a sec, where did I hea

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance advocating unbelieving apocalyptic novels

2005-12-06 Thread Judy Taylor
Judy says 'SINCE SO MUCH OTHER NONSENSE COMES OUT OF THAT PLACE (FULLER SEMINARY)   I don't read novels; we are cautioned to guard our hearts with all diligence - As for Fuller, part of their teaching staff did not believe in the inerrance of scripture - also this is where Wagner gave the Ro

Re: [TruthTalk] Separation

2005-12-06 Thread Judy Taylor
Yes, Jesus was longsuffering with him all along because He knew but let him hold the purse anyway. Now that's faith.   On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 04:06:58 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jesus Loved him but He did not win him.Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [TruthTalk] Separation

2005-12-06 Thread Judy Taylor
Oh now that makes a bit more sense - since so much other nonsense comes out of that place.   On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 04:01:45 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Consider the source. Fuller Theo.Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Two excellent books

Re: [TruthTalk] Separation

2005-12-06 Thread Judy Taylor
So, is Anderson's thesis that because Jesus put up with a false disciple that the wheat should be chummy with all the tares which would be contradictory to Kevin's scriptural evidence for separation/sanctification.   On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 06:00:41 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

truthtalk@mail.innglory.org

2005-12-06 Thread Judy Taylor
think God created A&E while knowing that they would definitely transgress, or do you think there was a possibility that they would not transgress?Judy Taylor wrote: You have brought this up in the past on TT DaveH but it didn't last long because there is no place

Re: [TruthTalk] WOG IS SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
Wow Kevin - You've found a man after Gary's own heart ... Definitely nothing new under the sun... :)   On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 20:45:57 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:   Thoytom Asse Coria Tushrump codsheadirustie,Mungrellimo whish whap ragge dicete tottrie,Mangelusq

Re: [TruthTalk] Read Gary having a whole conversation with himself

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
Are you enjoying reading your words and responding to yourself Gary?   On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 21:04:33 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..parrots proud like peacox parading a proof/text reflex: 'no Rock rocks unxeroxd'    On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 20:52:11 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] JD finds what he claimed not to have received

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
teachers in Berea?   You think this was a bunch of people without leadership   Get real.   And what if apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers??    Why are they in the church.   To help us understand scripture, among other things.   Barth is just another teacher.  

Re: [TruthTalk] Exodus

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
I agree that this particular thought is out in left field; the scripture does say that God would have killed Moses but does not tell us how he would have done it.  It appears the wife was the one standing in the way and that Moses must have wanted to take care of it. earlier. The wife was a

Re: [TruthTalk] Exodus

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
Terry, What do you believe was out in left field about that fellow's response?  There was another incident with Moses when he struck the rock twice after God told him to speak to the rock.  For this he was not permitted to enter the Promised Land with the ppl he had been leading for all tho

Re: [TruthTalk] JD is cutting and pasting answers

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
le when Paul wrote I Co  --  only Jewish scripture and the church did not have ready access to most of those document copies.    jd   From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com> And I will simply say once more that the Word of God needs no "INTERPRETATION"

Re: [TruthTalk] WHEN OPINION IS KING...SOME OF JUDY'S & DAVID'S CITATIONS

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
David who?  This is just one more of JD's accusations.  David has better sense   On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 14:23:26 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: WHEN OPINION IS KING...SOME OF JUDY'S & DAVID'S CITATIONS   From: Judy Taylor On Mon

Re: [TruthTalk] Infallible understanding???

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
t the NT they searched the scriptures daily to see whether what Paul was teaching them was valid - What's more he called them "more honorable" for doing this. I think you go around looking for excuses and problems JD.     From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.co

Re: [TruthTalk] From the King of dissension and name calling

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 14:06:52 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Says  one "King" to another  "King."  From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is so silly Lance? From what you write I get the impression that your own opinion is King... pr

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY SAYS THAT THE WORD OF GOD NEEDS NO INTERPRETATION..TWOG IS SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
dy) if the teaching is only taught on a single occasion.  jd  From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Read 1 Cor 2:12-16, this is the teaching and this is what I believe.  Understanding rather than some man's natural or carnal interpretation is the problem.   On Mon, 5 De

Re: [TruthTalk] One of the "greatest voices"

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
they are a part of the "old system?"   Houston, we have a problem.   Judy cannot square her doctrine of "infallible understanding" with the fact that God set evangelists, teachers and pastors in the church  !  jd From

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy asks:WHAT STANDARD, PLUMBLINE..EVALUATING TRUTH?

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
the same Jesus.  jdFrom: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com> And which Jesus is this? The Mormon Jesus? Jesus God's Word? The "incarnational" Jesus?   On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 07:22:33 -0600 Terry Clifton <wabbits1234@earthlink.net> writes: Lance

Re: [TruthTalk] One of the "greatest voices"

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
ot; with the fact that God set evangelists, teachers and pastors in the church  !!!!!   jd From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes and under the old system he provided Moses seat and who sat there? Did Jesus encourage the ppl to follow

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
E NEITHER EXHAUSTIVE NOR INFALLIBLE. That then, would include your interpretation(s) of Scripture would it not? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy asks:WHAT STANDARD, PLUMBLINE..EVALUATING TRUTH?

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
What is so silly Lance? From what you write I get the impression that your own opinion is King... prove me wrong. please!!   On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:55:46 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Judy:You are just being silly, silly, silly!! Wasnew? F

[TruthTalk] Good Column and Relevant FYI

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
No fear: Overcoming Bible trauma By Bob Just I've been a writer for many years, working on all kinds of projects from screenplays to corporate speeches to playwriting to academic essays to journalism and commentary. As a former English teacher, I've read all kinds of writing but never any

Re: [TruthTalk] One of the "greatest voices"

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
  he placed apostles, evangelists, prophets, pastors and teachers in the Chruch.   Barth would be a teacher.   You would be a member.  jd  From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did Jesus say that after He had gone to the Father he would send a real smart theologian by the name of

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy asks:WHAT STANDARD, PLUMBLINE..EVALUATING TRUTH?

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
PS: Which Jesus did you evaluate Francis Schaeffers teachings in the light of?   On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 08:36:39 -0500 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: And which Jesus is this? The Mormon Jesus? Jesus God's Word? The "incarnational" Jesus?   On Mon, 05 De

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy asks:WHAT STANDARD, PLUMBLINE..EVALUATING TRUTH?

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
And which Jesus is this? The Mormon Jesus? Jesus God's Word? The "incarnational" Jesus?   On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 07:22:33 -0600 Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lance Muir wrote: I shall venture an answer and, would like to hear from all on this. JESUS IS THE ST

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY SAYS THAT THE WORD OF GOD NEEDS NO INTERPRETATION..TWOG IS SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
Read 1 Cor 2:12-16, this is the teaching and this is what I believe.  Understanding rather than some man's natural or carnal interpretation is the problem.   On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 07:53:42 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: These are two rather large observations/statements. PLE

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
f blasphemy by David, I'll simply say that ALL INTERPRETATIONS OF SCRIPTURE ARE NEITHER EXHAUSTIVE NOR INFALLIBLE. That then, would include your interpretation(s) of Scripture would it not? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@

truthtalk@mail.innglory.org

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
You have brought this up in the past on TT DaveH but it didn't last long because there is no place to go with it. By definition all anyone could come up with is their own speculation.  God wasn't caught blindsided. He knew and prepared for this "BEFORE the foundation of the world" so it's too

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY ASKS: Is Jesus..the figment of my (Judy is also 'some theologian') prolific imagination?

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
Meaning that everyone has their own Jesus and there is no standard of Truth?   On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 07:16:42 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The definitive answer to your query concerning 'your own Jesus' is...well...YES.   judyt

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy asks:WHAT STANDARD, PLUMBLINE..EVALUATING TRUTH?

2005-12-05 Thread Judy Taylor
So now we are back to your old question - Who is Jesus?  and which Jesus is the Standard/Plumbline? Is He God the Word as in Scripture or is he the figment of your or some theologian's prolific imagination?   On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 06:54:16 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I shall

Re: [TruthTalk] One of the "greatest voices"

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Judy, would you say that the less you have the Holy Spirit to teach and guide you, the more you need Barth and others? iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor  Was Barth inspired or

Re: [TruthTalk] One of the "greatest voices"

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
You call what you do here "interacting with others" Gary?  Now this is really interesting. I'd say Lance is the voice from above and Kevin's is like "regular folk" even if his subject matter is re another Kingdom.   On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 14:53:03 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: apparently Jes

Re: [TruthTalk] Happily Judy, He sent us you.

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
MAIL PROTECTED]> writes:   From: Judy Taylor   Did Jesus say that after He had gone to the Father he would send a real smart theologian by the name of Barth to "unfold the revealed work attested in the scriptures" JD?.  Of course not - and we have the Be

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: sda.htm

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
others are not; e.g., not Izzy.   Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: sda.htm

Re: [TruthTalk] One of the "greatest voices"

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
  So now you have taken to clipping sentences and putting words in my mouth which indicates the working of deceit.   On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 12:32:57 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:   - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor

Re: [TruthTalk] One of the "greatest voices"

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
to live there ie "If you abide in Me and My Words abide in you"   I have no reason to consider Gal 3:26, 27 again, for example,  if this revisiting of the text does not provide me the opportunity to hear the voice of the Living God work in my heart as I consider the biblical

Re: [TruthTalk] One of the "greatest voices"

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
you say that the less you have the Holy Spirit to teach and guide you, the more you need Barth and others? iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor  Was Barth inspired or misguided in his belief that the "task of theology is t

Re: [TruthTalk] One of the "greatest voices"

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor  Was Barth inspired or misguided in his belief that the "task of theology is to unfold the revealed word attested in the Bible" when Jesus' own Words teach us that this is the work of the Holy Spirit in the lives of those w

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: sda.htm

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
When did I ever say she is irrelevant Bill?  These are your words not mine, please retract them.   On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 10:40:22 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Imagine that! I've already read this. Judy is right: you are irrelevant.   Bill - Original Message -

Re: [TruthTalk] One of the "greatest voices"

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
d Barth smarten them up? Or should we listen to Paul who writes that we already have the mind of Christ?   On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 08:35:22 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:   It's not God's fault.

Re: [TruthTalk] One of the "greatest voices"

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
t God's fault. From: Judy Taylor   Not a very loving evaluation of God's workmanship Bill Lots of men have spent a "lifetime" preaching some agenda or another - only those who 'in obedience' are speaking God's oracles will receiv

Re: [TruthTalk] One of the "greatest voices"

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
d maybe, just maybe, be considered a great man of God (although that is even doubtful). But put those words in a book and Oh NO! now he's a theologian. Christians are so stupid.   Bill From: Judy Taylor   On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 07:36:51 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PR

Re: [TruthTalk] One of the "greatest voices"

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
prepared to give account for the hope that is in you with regard to Barth Bill?  Everything I have read about him so far has been dialectic and nothing is definitive.  Hardly the kind of atmosphere where faith grows.   From: Judy Taylor   Bill writes: "It will t

Re: [TruthTalk] One of the "greatest voices"

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
igion.     From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill writes: "It will take many years, I'm sure, before Barth will be allowed to speak for himself to the conservative community. In the meantime Evangelical Christians will be missing out on one of the greatest voices the Chu

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
I will say.   Off line, please.  jd -----Original Message-From: Judy Taylor << SPAN class=correction id="">jandgtaylor1@juno.com>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 04:09:26 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once

[TruthTalk] One of the "greatest voices"

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
Bill writes: "It will take many years, I'm sure, before Barth will be allowed to speak for himself to the conservative community. In the meantime Evangelical Christians will be missing out on one of the greatest voices the Church has ever known. I'm curious about what you find so great Bill..

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: sda.htm

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
to gratify a perverted taste was presented to me by a Catholic woman, kneeling at my feet, I felt ashamed and I distressed—I saw it in a new light, and I said, I will no longer patronize the butchers. I will not have the flesh of corpses on my table.”  Prophetess of Health;

Re: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst .... JD and Lance are infected

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
will take many years, I'm sure, before Barth will be allowed to speak for himself to the conservative community. In the meantime Evangelical Christians will be missing out on one of the greatest voices the Church has ever known. Bill From: Judy Taylor JD writes: Stop with t

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
line.     From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] I do JD; no mystery here you and Kevin are on another list where apparently you discussed the young homosexual you were trying to help; apparently Kevin discerns some problem with your method of evangelizing because there is no

Re: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst .... JD and Lance are infected

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
Some things don't ever date - Truth being one of them.   On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 03:36:27 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Other than being about 25 years out of date (Francis Schaeffer a 'giant'?) it is good to note that people know who he was. From: ShieldsFamily

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-04 Thread Judy Taylor
in the NT; its the fount of Am Fundamentalist cultic legalism--its how legalism works to maintain partic racist exclusivity..its why evangelism in Fundamentalism equates to church s/hopping..and its one obvious reaosn why there's an ACLU)   On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 23:50:51 -0500 Judy

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
ot; Pastoring in another list: "You are a Judaizing punk and an embarrassment to your parents.   You have proven that in spades.   I no longer believe that you would benefit from man to boy confrontation."   knpraise@aol.com wrote:

Re: [TruthTalk] Would I (Lance) mind taking the time to answer these questions?

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
Hey Iz where you been?  You were missed today :) If I were to guess I'd say that Lance is wide open to everything EXCEPT what he sees as fundamentalism and fundamentalists.  Included in both former and latter are George W. along with you and I   On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 22:31:34 -0600 "ShieldsFami

Re: [TruthTalk] Virtue of Name Calling

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
;Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> >To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf > >for Karl Barth)> >Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 11:12:22 -0500> >> >Total chunky style barny

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
Barf >for Karl Barth) >Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 11:12:22 -0500 > >Total chunky style barnyard. By the same lo gic, I can call you Jezebel >Taylor and Kevin "Dunce Deegan" and and so on. And "ad hom" has no such >limitations exc

[TruthTalk] Take heed!! This evil fruit of unbelief is happening on TT as we speak

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
  Once sufficient doubt is cast upon the Bible as a body of objective truth, it will cease to be either an instrument of faith or a standard of practice. It can be cherished as literature, adorning our tables and filling our libraries; yet it will be no more authoritative than Aesop's Fables

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
nd as such the attestation of Jesus Christ as he showed himself alive after his death. It is ancillary to this attestation. The one can be as little verified "historically" as the other. Certainly the empty tomb cannot serve as an "historical" proof (IV, 1, 341).   The

Re: [TruthTalk] The Eternal Sonship and the Adoption heresey

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
the issues presented in past postings.   The myth that you  function off the Holy Spirit in the interpretation of scripture is herein debunked.    Adoptionism is not a bibllical doctrine when applied to Christ.    So what's your problem?  jd From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROT

Re: [TruthTalk] NO! Lance (doncha just love it when people speak of themselves i

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
It would seem that way.  >From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I get the impression Perry that Lance thinks himself as way above us on >an intellectual >level and that most of the time he just plays with us here on TT. jt > > >On Sat, 03 Dec 200

Re: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst .... JD and Lance are infected

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
n of the issues.    Not even a good try.  jd    Your response is as expected JD. But allow me to remind you that the scriptures are "spiritually discerned" rather than intellectually apprehended as you are attempting to do and so long as you persist the voices will be eve

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
>Taylor and Kevin "Dunce Deegan" and and so on. And "ad hom" has no such >limitations except here on TT. Ad hom is an attack on the person or words >of an individual "rather than an appeal to pure reason" (Webster's >Encyclopedic Dictionary.) 

Re: [TruthTalk] Unjust?...Filthy?

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
brand of s-called interpretation!! From: Judy Taylor   Filthiness is only a joke to those who lack understanding Lance. You and others plagued by what is known as the "liberal" taint have been robbed blind by your mentors. Jesus told His disciples that they w

Re: [TruthTalk] Unjust?...Filthy?

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
Filthiness is only a joke to those who lack understanding Lance. You and others plagued by what is known as the "liberal" taint have been robbed blind by your mentors. Jesus told His disciples that they were clean through the Words he had spoken (they received them as is) Paul also uses this

Re: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst .... JD and Lance are infected

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
es: The inerrancy debate and the search for Emus are on a par with one another.(Extinction is the word)     On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 12:40:34 -0500 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JD writes: Stop with the lie,  Judy.   You have nothing to back up yo

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy WON'T answer because SHE CANNOT WITHOUT FALSIFICATION OR EMBARRASSMENT

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
tal 'pass'. Happily, David Miller did not. Kudos to you, David. From: Judy Taylor   Why would I waste God's time reading some theologian who with all his great learning did not believe the scriptures to be inerrant?  Obviously he wa

Re: [TruthTalk] Warning!!! Neo-Orthodoxy in our midst .... JD and Lance are infected

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 12:40:34 -0500 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JD writes: Stop with the lie,  Judy.   You have nothing to back up your claim but when has that slowed you down in the past.    You want Barth to be a threat THEREFORE he is.   He spent his li

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
hrough his "dogmatics" to find something like that for you to shoot down JD?     From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com> I know he would not pledge allegiance to Hitler which is noteworthy but the very fact that Hitler and his occult socialist syste

[TruthTalk] What is an argumentum ad hominem - for Lance & JD Smithson

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
 JD writes: By the same logic,  I can call you Jezebel Taylor and Kevin "Dunce Deegan"  and and so on.  And "ad hom" has no such limitations except here on TT.  Ad hom is an attack on the person or words of an individual "rather than an appeal to pure reason"   (Webster's Encyclopedic Dicti

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy WON'T answer because SHE CANNOT WITHOUT FALSIFICATION OR EMBARRASSMENT

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
material)   footnote:Same question of John Calvin footnote:Does it matter? From: Judy Taylor   Just because I have used a few of Hunt's footnoted quotes in an online thread r

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:On Judy once again employing the ad hom (Barf for Karl Barth)

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
judge Barth and a clear statement to the fact that you know nothing of what this man believes and the concerns he dealt with in his battle against liberal theologies (among other considerations.)     -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com>To: TruthTal

Re: [TruthTalk] Thank You TT

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
  Oh Dean, Tell me it isn't so I for one will really miss you here and hope you will be back ASAP     judyt   On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 10:03:01 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:   cd:  I have come to realize my passion are to much for extended stay on TT. To

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Judy asks 'DID YOU BRING IT UP AS AN ACCUSATION?"

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
've also seen it and, didn't much care for it. Didja ever think that you so readily assume the 'accusatory' 'cause that's what y'all do? From: Judy Taylor   Do you know why they went?  Were they going for sheer entertainment or to kee

Re: [TruthTalk] JUDY!! Y'all have convinced me this very morning!

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
Did you think this a non ad hominem Lance or don't you really care??   On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 10:16:44 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Vacuity thy name is JUDY!   judyt    He that says "I know Him" and

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: sda.htm

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
s: Two words in one day, kids! Can we all say EVASIVE? Keep this up Judy and you're going to change my mind concerning you and 'intentionality'. No, I don't think you'd care but, it'd say something quite important about the 'reading' of you by John,

Re: [TruthTalk] NO! Lance (doncha just love it when people speak of themselves in the 3rd person?) NOT SDA PERRY

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
-0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The same that David & Christine went to see in SWIII. Ya him! From: Judy Taylor   Yoda - you mean that little wizened up devil in the Star Wars movies   On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 09:39:10 -0500 "Lanc

Re: [TruthTalk] NO! Lance (doncha just love it when people speak of themselves i

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
  I get the impression Perry that Lance thinks himself as way above us on an intellectual level and that most of the time he just plays with us here on TT.  jt     On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 06:44:52 -0800 "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> Okay, then the question remains why you po

Re: [TruthTalk] NO! Lance (doncha just love it when people speak of themselves in the 3rd person?) NOT SDA PERRY

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
Yoda - you mean that little wizened up devil in the Star Wars movies   On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 09:39:10 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Garden variety Christian am I. (How yoda-like).   judyt    He t

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: sda.htm

2005-12-03 Thread Judy Taylor
Title: SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH I haven't a clue why Lance sent this, I asked him about it myself. Don't know what Dave Hunt is, if anything but I do know he is NOT SDA and I don't believe Lance is either. He couldn't be universalist if he were.  I have a friend who began attending a SDA

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