WHAT HAPPENED to RAYMOND??
He did not even say BYE.
Bothoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Terry--
I took the time to explain to you what my Church teaches on this subject. Please take the time to explain what you believe on this subject.
--RaymondTerry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
frustration! That is the nature of TT.
Perry
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WHAT HAPPENED to RAYMOND
Kevin Deegan wrote:
WHAT HAPPENED to RAYMOND??
He did not even say BYE.
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Hopefully, he is reexamining what he believes, but he is probably just
busy. He can't leave. He hasn't eaten us for lunch yet.
Terry
thTalk] Are Jesus and Satan brothers?Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 08:39:21 -0700 (PDT)Implied by the text, seenotice that he is 'the accuser' who is 'cast down,' and at no time is he referred to as a brother because he's not.First, your reasoning is flawed. Isn't your statement above like someone
to be reversed wouldn't you (Mormons)expect an Amen? (do you Amen anything?).- Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG>Sent: May 14, 2005 14:08Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Are Jesus and Satan brothers?
Raymond: The fact is that you are twisting Scripture for your ownagenda. The passage is not discussing 'who are the children of God or not.'
read it real slow Ray:"these are not the children of God"
What does that mean?
RAYMOND says Just because you find"not the children of God" doesn't mean it's
OtherChurches bear the name Jesus Christ, does that make them true too?
Your church did not always bear the name Jesus Christ does that make it false?
6 Apr 1830 -- Incorporated as The "Church of Christ" according to the laws of the New York
http://www.irr.org/mit/BOC/1833boc-p1.html
The name
-- that includes Jesus.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Though somewhat overlong, an answer at last! I believe you just said, yes he is. Am I correct?
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s. Am I correct?
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Hi Terry
Im glad to see that you are open-minded and willing to let me respond to these questions. If you dont mind, Id like
Wow. That is shocking and
amazing. Do the Mormons here believe that? If so, things are worse than I thought! Izzy
Mormon Apostle Bruce R. McConkieWhat Mormons Think of Christ, 1982, p. 19.
Christians
speak often of the blood of Christ and its
cleansing power.; Much that is
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The fact that I agree with those
things is not new. Further, I do trust in Jesus for my Salvation.
"Jesus, saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life:no
man cometh
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Do you understand DISINHERITED?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If ever he WAS then, he IS!
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e:
Do you understand DISINHERITED?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If ever he WAS then, he IS!
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No, you're wrong. The an
ent: May 13, 2005 16:23
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[TruthTalk] Are Jesus and Satan brothers?
No, you're wrong. The answer is he
was. Lucifer rebelled against God and was expelled from
Heaven. Lucifer became Satan. Satan is an enemy to
God
and Satan) not spring, as it were, from the same 'loins'?
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Kevin--
You are right. The short answer is--no. But, a short answer doesn't
Are you having problems reading English? Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
'I agree'? There's never a linguist around when you need one.
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Are you having problems reading English? Lance
Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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'I agree'? There's never a linguist around when
you need one.
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TED] wrote:
Though somewhat overlong, an answer at last! I believe you just said, yes he is. Am I correct?
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Hi Terry
Im glad to see that yo
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Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 08:39:21 -0700 (PDT)
Implied by the text, see--
sniP
--notice that he is 'the accuser' who is 'cast down
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That is from a Church published pamphlet that ALL the older missionaries used to pass out.
It carries the official "published by the C J C L D S" ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow. That is shocking and amazing. Do the Mormons here believe that? If so, things are worse than I
Raymond: My answers to Kevin's following accusations--
LDS: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints bears the name of our Savior.
Demote God: God is our Eternal Father in Heaven. He presented the Plan of Salvation to us.
Devalue Christ: He is our Messiah, the Lord God Omnipotent. He is
I hope you guys are taking notes. The more you know of Mormonism the more shocking it is. They know it and hate to have the truth revealed. It is much easier to persaude a new "investigator" of things Mormon, when they have no data to work with.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nothing is
rstand DISINHERITED?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If ever he WAS then, he IS!
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No, you're wrong. The answer is he was
Youre finally starting to catch on,
Raymond. Izzy
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Are you having
overlong, an answer at last! I believe you just said, yes he is. Am I correct?
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Subject: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Are Jesus and Satan brothers?
Hi Terry
Im glad to see that you are open-minded and willi
Do they (Jesus and Satan) not spring, as it were,
from the same 'loins'?
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Bothoms
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: May 12, 2005 17:41
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Are Jesus
and Satan brothers?
Kevin--
You are right
'I agree'? There's never a linguist around when you
need one.
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Bothoms
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Sent: May 12, 2005 18:31
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Are Jesus
and Satan brothers?
Terry: I believe
that Satan
] wrote:
Though somewhat overlong, an answer at last! I believe you just said, yes he is. Am I correct?
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Hi Terry
Im glad to see
If ever he WAS then, he IS!
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Bothoms
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Sent: May 13, 2005 16:23
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk]
Are Jesus and Satan brothers?
No, you're wrong. The answer is he was.
Lucifer rebelled against
believe you just said, yes he is. Am I correct?
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Sent: May 11, 2005 16:45
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Hi Terry
Im glad to see that you are open-minded and willing to let me respond
Are you saying How is one BORN OUT of a family?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If ever he WAS then, he IS!
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No, you're
Jesus is the creator not a creature
Col 1:16-17 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and
The fact that I agree with those things is not new. Further, I do trust in Jesus for my Salvation. "Jesus, saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life:no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." (John 14:6)
So, should I conjecture that because my Church teaches these things, that you are
Bothoms wrote:
The fact that I agree with
those things is not new. Further, I do trust in Jesus for my
Salvation. "Jesus, saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the
life:no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." (John 14:6)
So, should I conjecture
that because my Church teaches
Raymond: I believe that God is in one place at a time, but that His power and influence are vast reaching.
Terry: Does that mean that you do not feel that God, the Holy Spirit resides in each Saint, or that God is not omnipresent?
Raymond: When a portion of the Holy Ghost resides in man, it is
Bothoms wrote:
As for
additional Scripture Did you know that the Bible prophesies of the
coming forth of the Book of Mormon?
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If you believe that, I have this bridge over San Francisco bay that I
can sell you at a
Point is some are "not the children of God"
It does not matter if the context says gentiles, you claim all are.
"He that is of God heareth God's words ye therefore hear them not because ye are not of God" Jesus
Bothoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jesus is the creator not a creature
Col 1:16-17
LDS
Demote God
Devalue Christ
Deify Man
Deny sin
Denigrate ScriptureTerry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bothoms wrote:
The fact that I agree with those things is not new. Further, I do trust in Jesus for my Salvation. "Jesus, saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life:no man
McConkie B.Y.U. Devotional on March 2, 1982
"...many false and vain and foolish things are being taught in the sectarian world and even among us about our need to gain a special relationship with the Lord Jesus."
"I am well aware that some who have prayed for endless hours feel they have a special
Did you know that the Bible prophesies of the coming forth of the Book of Mormon?
No we did not know that.
There you go again I thought you said your church was not SATANIC.
Isaiah 29:4 "And thou shalt be brought down, and shalt speak out of the ground, and thy speech shall be low out of the
Do you understand DISINHERITED?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If ever he WAS then, he IS!
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No, you're wrong
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Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 20:39:55 -0500
Bothoms wrote:
As for additional Scripture -- Did you know that the Bible prophesies of
the coming forth of the Book of Mormon
Though somewhat overlong, an answer at last! I
believe you just said, yes he is. Am I correct?
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Bothoms
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
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Subject: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Are Jesus and
Satan brothers?
Hi Terry
ms, and see what God will do for you. I will let you know. Stay tuned, please.Please note: message attachedDate: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:57:02 -0500From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Are Jesus and Satan brothers?Bothoms wrote:
Hi Terry
Im
:
Darn! Another poor display of vocabulary. Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin DeeganSent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 5:13 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Are Jesus and Satan brothers?
Are Jesus and Satan brothers?
Because you
you know. Stay tuned, please.Please note: message attachedDate: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:57:02 -0500From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Are Jesus and Satan brothers?Bothoms wrote:
Hi Terry
Im glad to see that you are open-minded and willi
Terry: I believe that Satan is a fallen angel, the father of lies.
Raymond: I agree.
Terry: I believe that with at least six thousand years experience he is a very good liar and you do not necessarily have to be gullible to be taken in by him.
Raymond: I agree.
Terry: I believe that he is but one
Raymond: I agree.
Raymond: I agree.
Raymond: I agree.
Raymond: I agree.
Well Terry good job, looks like Raymond is ready to repent of his religion and trust in only Jesus for his salvation!
Bothoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Terry: I believe that Satan is a fallen angel, the father of lies.
Bothoms wrote:
Terry:
I believe that Satan is a fallen angel, the father of lies.
Raymond:
I agree.
Terry:
I believe that with at least six thousand years experience he is a very
good liar and you do not necessarily have to be gullible to be taken in
by him.
Raymond:
I agree.
Hi Terry
Im glad to see that you are open-minded and willing to let me respond to these questions. If you dont mind, Id like to answer these questions one at a time.
DO LATTER-DAY SAINTS BELIEVE THAT JESUS AND SATAN ARE OR WERE BROTHERS?
To give a proper answer, this will take a bit of
Bothoms wrote:
Hi Terry
Im glad to see that you are
open-minded and willing to let me respond to these questions. If you
dont mind, Id like to answer these questions one at a time.
DO LATTER-DAY SAINTS BELIEVE
THAT JESUS AND SATAN ARE OR WERE BROTHERS?
To give a proper answer,
this
I appreciate your efforts, Raymond, but you have been misled by someone who
mixed the Bible with a fairy tale and came up with a polluted message, a lie
straight from the devil himself. I am sorry that you bought it; even sorrier
that you do not seem inclined to question it. I realize that I
:02 -0500From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Are Jesus and Satan brothers?Bothoms wrote:
Hi Terry
Im glad to see that you are open-minded and willing to let me respond to these questions. If you dont mind, Id like to answer these questio
Darn! Another poor display of
vocabulary. Izzy
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Are Jesus and Satan
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Are Jesus and Satan brothers?
Because you like it short:
No!"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I
of
vocabulary. Izzy
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Are Jesus and Satan brothers?
Because you like
I guess you haven't been following all the posts from Debbie? Izzy
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BLAINE: . But I will pray for you tonight, before I retire to my bed of sweet dreams, and see what God will do for you. I will let you know.Stay tuned, please.
The prayers of a righteous man
Terry--
I took the time to explain to you what my Church teaches on this subject. Please take the time to explain what you believe on this subject.
--RaymondTerry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bothoms wrote:
Hi Terry
Im glad to see that you are open-minded and willing to let me respond to
Bothoms wrote:
Terry--
I took the time to explain to you what my Church teaches on this
subject. Please take the time to explain what you believe on this
subject.
--Raymond
I believe that Satan is a fallen angel, the father of
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