Re: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature (Romans 1.12-16)

2004-08-22 Thread Judy Taylor
jt: Let me change that to "some sort of superstitious thing" -My belief doesn't go this far On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 22:17:21 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 8/21/2004 5:48:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John: When baseball season comes on, and

Re: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature (Romans 1.12-16)

2004-08-21 Thread Lance Muir
help but notice what political bondage you are in.--- Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August 20, 2004 12:34 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature (Romans 1.12-16) Lance, Why? Scripturally, what basis do you

Re: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature (Romans 1.12-16)

2004-08-21 Thread Lance Muir
John:Yes indeed. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August 20, 2004 17:50 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature (Romans 1.12-16) In a message dated 8/20/2004 4:37:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time

[TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature (Romans 1.12-16)

2004-08-21 Thread Judy Taylor
In a message dated 8/20/2004 4:37:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:I believe the 'conscience' is 'constructed' socially. I do not believe that the 'conscience' of humankind is informed by God. jt: For the unredeemed this is so, they march to a different tune because of

[TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature (Romans 1.12-16)

2004-08-21 Thread Judy Taylor
PROTECTED] Sent: August 19, 2004 18:15 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature (Romans 1.12-16) Romans 1.12-16 – a passage rather hard to encapsulate in a quick note. I think v.12 speak of those who live outside the

RE: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature (Romans 1.12-16)

2004-08-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature (Romans 1.12-16) As I read you it is apparent that your own sense of 'right and wrong' is informed by family, society and religious tradition.I do believe that God, Who embodies 'right wrong' ontologically, does break

Re: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature (Romans 1.12-16)

2004-08-21 Thread Lance Muir
] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 3:54 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature (Romans 1.12-16) As I read you it is apparent that your own sense of 'right and wrong' is informed by family, society and religious

Re: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature (Romans 1.12-16)

2004-08-21 Thread Knpraise
Kool again Smittyson In a message dated 8/21/2004 3:15:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John:Yes indeed. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August 20, 2004 17:50 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over

Re: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature (Romans 1.12-16)

2004-08-21 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 8/21/2004 5:48:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John: When baseball season comes on, and I coach kids baseball, I often wear the same hat in exactly the same way every time we have a game. When I do not or cannot follow this pattern of activity, I feel

Re: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature (Romans 1.12-16)

2004-08-21 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 8/21/2004 9:00:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No need for Toronto. Just bring in Jimmy Carter..He's got a Nobel prize you know!! Yeah, he brought peace to Middle East. JD

Re: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature (Romans 1.12-16)

2004-08-20 Thread Lance Muir
' authority over nature (Romans 1.12-16) Romans 1.12-16 – a passage rather hard to encapsulate in a quick note. I think v.12 speak of those who live outside the framework of Torah. I.e., “without the Law” -or- “under the law” = “outside the framework of Torah” In v.13

[TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature (Romans 1.12-16)

2004-08-20 Thread Judy Taylor
Sadly this is truev and the reason for same is outlined in Romans 1:18-32. Because of our fallen natures mankind is deludedinto doing our own thing andcalling it good. You seem to put a lot of stock in the Abrahamic covenant Lance. Do you know why God chose Abraham? Because he knew he would

RE: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature (Romans 1.12-16)

2004-08-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 5:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature (Romans 1.12-16) I believe the 'conscience' is 'constructed' socially. I do not believe that the 'conscience

RE: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over nature (Romans 1.12-16)

2004-08-19 Thread Slade Henson
Romans 1.12-16 a passage rather hard to encapsulate in a quick note. I think v.12 speak of those who live outside the framework of Torah. I.e., without the Law -or- under the law = outside the framework of Torah In v.13, hearers of Torah (rather than readers, because of the rarity