RE: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2005-01-17 Thread Slade Henson
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David MillerSent: Sunday, 16 January, 2005 23.23To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Torah ObservanceSarcastic lawyer?  I'm not that smart, nor am I sarcastic.  You are readingway too

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2005-01-16 Thread ttxpress
'engaging in evil surmisings'?   On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:23:01 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> Greg wrote:> >This is an example of ad hominen attack disguised in polite words. > >It sounds like how a sarcastic lawyer asks a witness a question, > >when he knows the witnes

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2005-01-16 Thread Gregory A. Hession J.D.
David: SORRY! Gregory A. Hession J.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Springfield, Mass. - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance Greg wrote: This is an example of ad hominen

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2005-01-16 Thread David Miller
Greg wrote: > This is an example of ad hominen attack > disguised in polite words. > It sounds like how a sarcastic lawyer asks > a witness a question, when he knows the > witness can't answer it in the expected manner. Sarcastic lawyer? I'm not that smart, nor am I sarcastic. You are reading w

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2005-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
Oh, thanks for the explanation. I read it as an honest question but he may be trying to make a point. Does that make it ad hominem?   On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:17:22 -0500 "Gregory A. Hession J.D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:     It sounds like how a sarcastic lawyer asks a witness a questio

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2005-01-16 Thread Gregory A. Hession J.D.
y.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance Explain please... How so?     On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:09:07 -0500 "Gregory A. Hession J.D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:>

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2005-01-16 Thread Judy Taylor
Explain please... How so?     On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:09:07 -0500 "Gregory A. Hession J.D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> This is an example of ad hominen attack disguised in polite words.> From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > Kay, I think I asked you about how you celebrate Sukkoth, bu

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2005-01-16 Thread Gregory A. Hession J.D.
This is an example of ad hominen attack disguised in polite words. Gregory A. Hession J.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Springfield, Mass. - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 8:53 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] Torah Observanc

[TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2005-01-13 Thread David Miller
Kay, I think I asked you about how you celebrate Sukkoth, but maybe I neglected to articulate my question. Would you or any other Messianics on the list please tell me how you observe Sukkoth. Do you build a lean-to out of palm and willow branches that you live in all week like some of my Jewi

RE: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2002-11-30 Thread ShieldsFamily
      -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:TruthTalk- Not spiritualize AWAY, no.  The law is like a schoolmaster to teach us right from wrong.  However, the law works with the will, and man will find that his will is not enough to bring him into complete obedienc

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2002-11-30 Thread GJTabor
Ok, Marlin Judiazer, you are breaking the law for not killing me.  You condemn Christians for not observing the OT Sabbath. and you do not observe the OT Sabbath. By the way, there is no connection between the OT Sabbath and the misused verses you have mentioned.  This has happened over and over. 

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2002-11-29 Thread Marlin Halverson
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance Killing me for not observing the OT Sabbath is in the OT book.  --GlennAND it is also in the NT

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2002-11-29 Thread GJTabor
I've read the Bible cover to cover in just about every English translation and paraphrase and I have never found the below in there.  You need Joe Smith to declare this as scripture.  :-) I believe that we are approaching the seventh millennium since the creation of Adam and Eve, and that the crea

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2002-11-29 Thread Marlin Halverson
sand years. REV 20:7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2002-11-29 Thread David Miller
Izzy wrote: > Are you implying that because we now have a > better sacrifice, through the Blood of Christ, that > we can spiritualize away the 10 commandments? Not spiritualize AWAY, no. The law is like a schoolmaster to teach us right from wrong. However, the law works with the will, and man wi

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2002-11-29 Thread GJTabor
Killing me for not observing the OT Sabbath is in the OT book.  The animal sacrifices were not one of the 10 commandments.

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2002-11-29 Thread GJTabor
Ignorning the OT Sabbath is not sin.  The dots don't connect.  In fact to require OT Sabbath (I know you do not, but Marlin does.) IS sin.  Gal. 5:4.  Marlin is living in a fallen from grace situation. "Are we to continue in sin that grace might increase? May it never be!..."What then? Shall we si

RE: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2002-11-29 Thread ShieldsFamily
ves to righteousness, resulting in sanctification." (Rom:6:18-19) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 6:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance Ok, so b

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2002-11-28 Thread David Miller
Ok, so both Marlin and Izzy agree that the annual Passover sacrifice is not necessary in that Jesus Christ is that Passover lamb. To Marlin & Izzy: Do you have the same mindset regarding keeping the seventh day sabbath, or is this part of the Torah a little different to you? Do you understand th

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2002-11-27 Thread GJTabor
I cut the throat of the Sabbath.  Gal. 5:4. David Miller: "Is that correct?  Is this how you feel about this matter, or do you have different thoughts about it?" Whenever sins are repented of, we cut the lamb's throat, and we overcome by the blood of the Lamb.

Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2002-11-27 Thread Marlin Halverson
PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 2:47 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance > I would like both Marlin & Izzy to answer the following questions. > > I assume that neither Marlin nor Izzy cut the throat of a live 1 year old > male la

RE: [TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2002-11-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
David, Yes, I agree to that. I still need an atoning offering for my sin, but Jesus is it. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 1:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Torah

[TruthTalk] Torah Observance

2002-11-27 Thread David Miller
I would like both Marlin & Izzy to answer the following questions. I assume that neither Marlin nor Izzy cut the throat of a live 1 year old male lamb on Passover and offer sacrifice and eat the rest of him. Is that correct? I also assume that you do not feel compelled to do so because you see J