In a message dated 2/6/2005 6:35:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
tHIS IS A TIE !!
DAVEH: Ohhh.I think your typowriter failed to include the knot..
:)©
You, sir, are a genius!!!
JD
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/6/2005 1:15:50 AM
Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DAVEH: H..Isn't sticking one's tongue out and wagging
it, a reprimandable offense?!?!?! :-D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In
a message dated 2/5/
In a message dated 2/6/2005 1:15:50 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DAVEH: H..Isn't sticking one's tongue out and wagging it, a reprimandable offense?!?!?! :-D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/5/2005 10:31:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL
DAVEH: H..Isn't sticking one's tongue out and wagging
it, a reprimandable offense?!?!?!
:-D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/5/2005 10:31:17 AM
Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Here, I speak of "legalist" in general and not of a part
In a message dated 2/5/2005 10:31:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Here, I speak of "legalist" in general and not of a particular legalist.
DAVEH: Which particular legalist were you not thinking about when you wrote that, John??? :-D
:)
In a message dated 2/5/2005 11:15:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Call me anything you like,John. It won't bother me. Your opinion is not important enough to get worked up over. All of this smacks of people thinking more of themselves than they should, and getting aggrava
You can do it
Hold down the left mouse button then[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/5/2005 2:32:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Deegan are quick to challenge one's unique thinking on this forum as heretical, blind, blasphemous, corrupt, of the flesh -
In a message dated 2/5/2005 2:32:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Deegan are quick to challenge one's unique thinking on this forum as heretical, blind, blasphemous, corrupt, of the flesh --- all your words at one time or another.
Thou shalt not Lie
Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: February 04, 2005 18:51Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Ad Hom Farce> Gary wrote:> > myth (she cloaked in email a backhanded swipe> > at Mormons, by name, via manipulation of JCs> > word/s--there is no truthf
Deegan are quick to challenge one's unique thinking on this forum as heretical, blind, blasphemous, corrupt, of the flesh --- all your words at one time or another.
Thou shalt not Lie Details in the Bible
Lets see a post where I said this, or stop lying
Judy Taylor <
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/5/2005 8:01:37 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John wrote:
What if I think "pearls before swine" more aptly
applies to the Miller Four. Is that allowed.
Now you are getting too sp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here, I speak of "legalist" in general and not of a particular
legalist.
DAVEH: Which particular legalist were you not thinking about when you
wrote that, John??? :-D
Jd
--
~~~
Dave Hansen
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http://www.langlitz.co
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 12:24:19 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jt:OUR UNITY IS IN HIM NOT, I REPEAT NOT, IN OUR
AGREEMENT!!
What unity? There is no strife
or disunity in Christ and He is not divided so how can one be saying "I am
of Torrance" and another "I am of Polyani"?
I
Jt:OUR UNITY IS IN HIM NOT, I REPEAT NOT, IN OUR
AGREEMENT!!
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: February 05, 2005 12:14
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Ad Hom
Farce
On Sat, 5
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 09:15:20 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If I twist the scriptures, you wrote the book on
that activity. And what is accomplished in this particular
exchange? Nothing. What I just said is as shameful as your
accusation.
jt: I wrote it as a
David please, give it a rest. Linda can choose to exit or, continue to
participate. Let's move on.
- Original Message -
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: February 05, 2005 10:10
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Ad Hom Farce
> David Miller wrote:
>
In a message dated 2/5/2005 8:01:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John wrote:
>What if I think "pearls before swine" more aptly
>applies to the Miller Four. Is that allowed.
Now you are getting too specific about specific members. You can get away
with referring to "ha
In a message dated 2/5/2005 7:44:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John wrote:
>Your definition of "ad hominem" has done
>absolutely nothing to end the problem
It is not "MY" definition, as in my personal definition. Following are some
links to help you understand the ad h
John wrote:
> What if I think "pearls before swine" more aptly
> applies to the Miller Four. Is that allowed.
Now you are getting too specific about specific members. You can get away
with referring to "hardened Protestants" or "hardened Bible Thumpers" or
maybe even "hardened fundamentalist
In a message dated 2/5/2005 7:12:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Your solution to the problem is of no consequence, David. That is a fact. Nothing has improved since you have argued for the "solution." As a leader, I am surprised as to what you have been willing to sur
John wrote:
> Your definition of "ad hominem" has done
> absolutely nothing to end the problem
It is not "MY" definition, as in my personal definition. Following are some
links to help you understand the ad hominem fallacy better:
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html
http:/
David Miller wrote:
>> Izzy's post fails the ad hominem argument on
>> many fronts. She was not speaking to a
>> Mormon, but to Lance.
John wrote:
> She actually raised the disgusting questions as to
> whether one was disobeying her god's command
> against sharing the pearls of truth with swine
In a message dated 2/5/2005 3:27:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John I really do not understand your revolt over this. Could you explain?
Why would it be disgusting?
As you know I preach at sodomite events.
There are some that say I do not preach to that kind
To which I
In a message dated 2/5/2005 12:12:00 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 02:39:24 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 2/4/2005 10:49:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You are free to think whatever you like - it's not unusua
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/4/2005 10:49:08 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You are free to think whatever you like - it's not unusual for people twist
God's Word every kind of way. jt
We have nothing in common Judy -- your lit
Judy, you say some very nice things about, David. I
am sure that he appreciates you very much. Thank you for the words of
encouragement.
Blessings,
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 3:41
orn and get
back to shouting at the Mormons. It's little wonder that you don't have their
'ear'!
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: February 05, 2005 07:27
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Ad Hom
Farce
1
PROTECTED]>To: Sent: February 04, 2005 18:51Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Ad Hom Farce> Gary wrote:> > myth (she cloaked in email a backhanded swipe> > at Mormons, by name, via manipulation of JCs> > word/s--there is no truthful way she can trace> > her 'artful' c
Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: February 04, 2005 18:51Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Ad Hom Farce> Gary wrote:> > myth (she cloaked in email a backhanded swipe> > at Mormons, by name, via manipulation of JCs> > word/s--there is no truthful way she can trace> > her '
John I really do not understand your revolt over this. Could you explain?
Why would it be disgusting?
As you know I preach at sodomite events.
There are some that say I do not preach to that kindTo which I reply
I can understand your feelings I do not preach to Blacks or Jews
I am kidding of cour
only to Kevin Mitnick) and he can write so as
to be understood.IZZIE SEEMS ONLY TO BE CAPABLE OF ONE SORT OF WRITING, SO
LET'S MOVE ON, SHALL WE?
- Original Message -
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: February 04, 2005 18:51
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Ad
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 02:39:24 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a
message dated 2/4/2005 10:49:08 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:You are free to think whatever
you like - it's not unusual for people twist God's Word every kind of way.
jt
JD: We have nothing
In a message dated 2/4/2005 10:49:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You are free to think whatever you like - it's not unusual for people twist God's Word every kind of way. jt
We have nothing in common Judy -- your little slurs not withstanding. The fact of the matter i
DAVEH: As I have stated before..while I am dismayed at the level of
some of the exchanges on TT, I would much rather other TTers be up front
with what they are thinking about me or my beliefs, rather than let
their disdain kindle into pent up anger that later erupts beyond
reason. So whil
You are free to think whatever you like - it's not
unusual for people twist God's Word every kind of way. jt
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 22:45:37 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 2/4/2005 4:22:49 PM Pacific
Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
She didn't manipulate a thing
I think I can safely assume that I am part of the
"Miller four" and I don't find anything that is OK at all about the scheme below - at best it is trying to balance on a slippery
slope. All a person would be doing by implementing something like
this is "locating themselves" publicly because
I said what I wanted to say, David.
Bill
- Original Message -
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Ad Hom Farce
> Bill wrote:
> > David, you bemoan the fact that you
> > can't
In a message dated 2/4/2005 4:22:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
She didn't manipulate a thing she printed the whole verse verbatim and she was not manipulating Jesus' words either. He called the Syrophoenician woman a "dog" which is someone outside the covenant. Swine are p
In a message dated 2/4/2005 3:53:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The ad hominem rule concerns only attacking a specific list member. It is
meant to keep discussions from degrading into a one on one personal spat.
Criticism of doctrines and sects is allowed.
Your definit
In a message dated 2/4/2005 3:06:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Izzy's post fails the ad hominem argument on many fronts. She was not
speaking to a Mormon, but to Lance.
She actually raised the disgusting questions as to whether one was disobeying her god's command agai
FEELINGS Woa Woa Woa FEELINGS
Facts have nothing to do with it!
The unmistakable teachings of scripture do not apply in Laodecia Christian Church
It's a Touchy Feely Thang!
welcome to Barney World.
Woof Woof; roll around on the floor; gimme some more
That is the "spirit" that just has to get some o
Bible Bible Bible
2 Sam 22:27 With the pure thou wilt show thyself pure; and with the froward thou wilt show thyself unsavory.
Prov 17:11 An evil man seeketh only rebellion: therefore a cruel messenger shall be sent against him.Plese show where the Manipulation of words occured[EMAIL PROTECTED] w
She didn't manipulate a thing she printed the whole
verse verbatim and she was not manipulating Jesus' words either. He called the
Syrophoenician woman a "dog" which is someone outside the
covenant. Swine are pagans/unbelievers.
Why wouldn't Mormons qualify with all of their extra biblical
acknowleged (meaning no more, no
less than precisely this)
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 18:51:37 -0500 "David
Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:||
> I don't see where she cloaked
anything.
Gary wrote:
> myth (she cloaked in email a backhanded swipe
> at Mormons, by name, via manipulation of JCs
> word/s--there is no truthful way she can trace
> her 'artful' conclusion to the mind of Christ--
> some good advice may be cancel trying to make
> a silk purse out of a sow's ear:)
Cloaked?
myth (she cloaked in
email a backhanded swipe at Mormons, by name, via manipulation of JCs
word/s--there is no truthful way she can trace her
'artful' conclusion to the mind of Christ--some good advice may be
cancel trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear:)
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 18:
(cut the manipulative backhanded
swipes pls)
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 18:05:10 -0500 "David
Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:Gary..he [has yet] to discuss this with me over the
phone
please specify your reference to
'all', Kevin--including whom, by name please; so far it's lookin'
like another inconsiderate backhanded swipe
G
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 15:00:47 -0800 (PST)
Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
These guys all come from AUTHORATATIVE
Cultic movements
Bill wrote:
> David, you bemoan the fact that you
> can't keep a moderator.
I don't recall bemoaning this. I've simply asked for volunteers. I bemoan
the idea of running the list without a moderator.
Bill wrote:
> But no more than get one and you start
> undermining his authority.
I do not be
Judy Judy Judy
These guys all come from AUTHORATATIVE Cultic movements
it has nothing to do with the visible church. It has to do with the pride of those that think themselves leaders.
Like the saying goes you can take the mormon out of his church, but it takes some time to get the mormon out of t
myth [reductionistic at best;
pointedly: 'simply' denies falsely; pastorally speaking, the 'new'
moderator's issue partic with that issue will remain public, constant; if
Izzy agrees to take the opportunity to interact peacefully on the
subject, as requested, we can waive any pending apolog
Amen Bill! And one wonders at Slade's departure???
- Original Message -
From: "Bill Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: February 04, 2005 15:30
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Ad Hom Farce
> David, you bemoan the fact that you can't keep a moderator. But n
David: I don't know which came first, this or Bill's post suggesting you
shouldn't be doing this very thing. You do note it's inappropriateness,
don't you?
- Original Message -
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: February 04, 2
Sanity Check...
Thank you TerryTerry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
David Miller wrote:
Kevin wrote:
This moderation stuff is a farce, it is never applied
even handedly ...
Kevin, please be patient. Gary has just taken over the moderation of the
list, and he has not issued any reprim
I am not trying to bash G
Due to the recent bashing of Judy & Izzy I am probably overacting to his silence and thinking here we go again.David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kevin wrote:> This moderation stuff is a farce, it is never applied> even handedly ...Kevin, please be patient. Gary has
ot;David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Ad Hom Farce
> Terry wrote:
> > Izzy quoted the Bible. She gave her opinion
> > as to how that quote applied to a cult. That
> > is not ad hominem. The moderator a
Terry wrote:
> Izzy quoted the Bible. She gave her opinion
> as to how that quote applied to a cult. That
> is not ad hominem. The moderator and the
> ex pastor are too easily offended by the truth.
Well said, Terry. I agree.
I wonder if Izzy had said "hardened Christians" instead of "hardene
David Miller wrote:
Kevin wrote:
This moderation stuff is a farce, it is never applied
even handedly ...
Kevin, please be patient. Gary has just taken over the moderation of the
list, and he has not issued any reprimand yet, so lighten up. He solicited
discussion of
#x27;s' but her brusqueness is most
acceptable to this 'one'.
C'mon Mr. Moderator, please? St. George just humiliated himself yet again
and, we've not one person to come to his aid.
- Original Message -
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
S
Kevin wrote:
> This moderation stuff is a farce, it is never applied
> even handedly ...
Kevin, please be patient. Gary has just taken over the moderation of the
list, and he has not issued any reprimand yet, so lighten up. He solicited
discussion of his perspective concerning Izzies post and
G comments?
Dave comments?
I feel like the fox is in the henhouse, it is real quiet. Can't find a hen.Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This moderation stuff is a farce, it is never applied even handedly
I could care less what someone calls me get some skin; Sissies
Can anyone pretend tha
This moderation stuff is a farce, it is never applied even handedly
I could care less what someone calls me get some skin; Sissies
Can anyone pretend that Izzy & Judy have been treated fairly as far as moderation recently?
No answeres from those that have TWO STANDARDS pleaze.
The thing that bugs
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