Venkat
Some more comments
snip
Haleh, the news is something that is very volatile and if we decide to
place
things in the chronological order the Release info will at some point get
pushed down. Also there is just about a couple of lines that this News
can
mention about a release which is
Hi
I wanted to try out binding-jms so I've just committed changes to take
account of the new SPIs. It does run but it's not ready for inclusion in the
main build just yet.
I've tried to stay fairly faithful to the M2 binding-jms code but with some
class renaming. As before much of the SCA JMS
Hi Raymond
I've just been bringing up the binding-jms module so I took the opportunity
to review your guide. Thanks for writing all this stuff down! I haven't gone
through the databinding slides yet but I thought I would post what I had. I
recorded comments (see below) as I went through it.
While debugging through the code for other reasons I came across the
following at
org.apache.tuscany.sca.implementation.java.invocation.JavaComponentInfo line
192.
if (ref.getMultiplicity() == Multiplicity.ONE_N ||
ref.getMultiplicity() == Multiplicity.ZERO_N) {
Ok, I've taken the next step here and have a distributed runtime example
running in my sandbox. A sample calculator application [1] showing the
disitributed runtime in action and a module containing the changes I had to
make to the runtime to get this to work [2]. The changes are actually
trivial
snip
User guide is for users developing SCA applications. Why would a user
care
about module names that are in the link mentioned below? They'd need to
know
if the feature/functionality is available and that is listed on the java
page.
I'm proposing two ways to the same information, a
Ok, Raymond, this is useful.
So what it does seem to come down to is binding selection. It's not clear
from your comment whether you believe this is already done somewhere or
whether this is a new piece of functinality that we need to add.
From what I see in the code I think we do need a way
Jean-Sebastien, thank you for pulling that out. It looks like it will save
me a job.
Simon
There doesn't seem to been much distance between the last two suggestions.
It feels to me like people are starting to talk about the same structure.
Let me try and summarize...
Home
Downloads
SCA Java --- SCA Java Releases
SCA Native - SCA Native Releases
SDO Java -- SDO Java
Ok, sounds good. I started to look at ROME but go distracted by something
else and I haven't looked at Abdera. So if you have a binding on the way
that would be really good. Am back looking at bringing up the aggregator
sample so I'll leave the implementation of the feed readers a little hazy in
Do you think people would want to run message queue brokers as part of the
Tuscany runtime? Brokers would tend to be run and managed elsewhere with
turcny connecting to them. We could do it as a convenience and a cool
feature of course but be interested to understand how realistic the scenario
Ok, so I sounds like people think this is a good idea. The generic bits of
starting JMS are I guess the registration of required queues and the start
up stuff like connection factories and activation spes and of course the
JNDI details. So we could look at pulling this out, as ant suggests, in a
Ant, I think that's a good idea. We need to be a bit organized about how we
go about it though. At least if we can get some details in for each of the
user confgurable extensions that would be good.
I've just done some more updates to the user guide and I've included the
module list at the
I have a service which returns an SDO and the JSONRPC binding complains
about it...
{id:1,error:{code:593,msg:bean
org.apache.tuscany.sca.samples.aggregator.types.impl.AlertsTypeImpl element
0 be
an org.apache.tuscany.sca.samples.aggregator.types.impl.AlertTypeImpl bean
I've just committed a strawman port to Java of the Feed Aggregator
application into my sandbox so that It now runs on the Java runtime.
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/sandbox/slaws/feed-aggregator/
It depends on Sebastien's feed binding so you will need that as well
Sebastien. Nice one. I used the service binding and it looks good.
Would also like to use the reference binding (will help remove some cruft
from the other feed aggregator sample). For me the thing I would like to add
is a parameter to the get() method that allows me to override the URL set
in
+1 for leaving 0.90 as it is and for cutting the 0.91 branch from trunk
when the time comes. I think it will be confusing if we start developing new
release content on 0.90 in parallel with changes in trunk. Branching the
next release from trunk also encourages us to try and keep head
Oh yes. I think we can simplify the demo by using the reference side also.
I occured to me that we have both started using feed-aggregator for the
samples we are wokring on. Go ahead and use that for the simple version.
I'll change the sample I've been working back to alert-aggregator or we are
Luciano, it's surprising how much better it feels without the redirect!
How about we remove all of the old web site pages (or replace them with
pointers to the new site) just in case people find them by accident?
Simon
Am just playing with the big bank demo that Sebastien made and it seems now
that the servlets have moved from
services/AccountJSONService
to
services/SCADomain/AccountJSONService
Looking back through SVN changes and the ML I can't see where this happened
but I know that this just means I'm
The rules, as documented [1], don't restrict editorship of a wiki used as a
project website to just committers but ask that only those who have a signed
CLA on file be allowed to edit the pages destined for the project website.
It doesn't say we can't restrict it to just committers of course.
I
Thanks for the pointers/info. I assume the intention is to add in the
ability to specify the binding specific base system uri on a binding by
binding bases (as well as implementing all the other rules of course). I
don't see this configuration in the code now.
sca domain
sca runtime
OK, I need to take a closer look. Assuming we don't hard code the info we
can potentially determine the IP info (although that might not even be the
case when there are multiple NICs) but we need to get the port selection
from somewhere. Is there currently a natural place where this config info
OK so,
I'll raise a JIRA against infrastructure asking for a new space to act as
our wiki:
Name: Apache Tuscany Wiki
Key: TUSCANYWIKI
Is everyone happy with this name?
Venkat, when you say administrator privileges I assume you mean confluence
admin privileges? Wouldn't this be a separate
Yes. Make sense?
Simon
I also think the assembly spec is a little deficient in this area. I don't
think it's description of the Base Domain URI at line 2357 chimes well with
the notion that an SCA Domain may be represented across a number of runtime
nodes at line 2765.
While we might assume from how it stands that
Raymond, if you think CompositeBuilder is the right place to do this then I
have to bow to your better judgement.
The binding base URLs should be stored in a topology model (as in the SCA
Binding and Distribution thread). So if you are going to make this change it
would be good to instigate
Also, for example, the Web Service Binding specification adds extra, WSDL
specific, endpoint URI resolution rules which we need to factor in.
Simon
Interesting. Taking a step back I think we should agree what we are trying
to represent in a model of the topology before we decide where the
information comes from and the exact syntax of the configuration files. So
from the previous two suggestions...
When a runtime is started up we need the
Mike
By I am pointing explicitly at a particular composite that I want to use
with the test case are you saying this behaviour is evident if your
composite of interest is marked as deployable (in sca-contribution.xml )
when the others that are loaded are not?
Regards
Simon
Conversation seems to have stopped so, from the previous comments...
* Confluence admins:
Venkat, Luciano, Mike Edwards [1] have been proposed to cover the timezones
we operate in. Venkat are you progressing this?
* http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY space access:
As this is
I just tried this with the JMS test, i.e. added a second composite, and it
does feel a little odd. In the case where there is no
sca-contribution.xmlthe logc seems to look for the directory that
holds the composite file you
specify and load all the composites there rather that just the one you
I also seems that you can't get round it. As it uses the composite file name
to identify the directory to look in. Adding a directory path in front of
the file name will have no effect as it just removes the directory path as
well when constructing the root directory to start looking in so you
Alongside the separation of loading and resolution there is a more
simplistic point here I think about the current implementation to do with
how a composite location is specified. As users of SCADomain I think Mike
and I fell into the trap of believing that
SCADomain.newInstance(my.composite)
Sebastien, it looks like a good start on the lazy loading to me.
On the disitributed runtime scenario point. I'd like to start putting the
distributed runtime bits I have so far into head so I would like to work
with you in making a start on the notion of a domain/runtime configured
through
I've now enabled the JMS binding in the modules/pom.xml so that it gets
build/tested regularly. It still has limited functionality compared to the
JMS Binding spec but does what I need it to for the time being. I've started
documenting the module here (
Hi, I just tried and I see it at the moment.
Simon
So I expect this is just the product of edit access being restricted to
committers. Please comment on Luciano's post here [1] so that a new space
can be provisioned (assuming that this is what is agreed) ASAP.
Simon
[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev%40ws.apache.org/msg18622.html
So we haven't come back to this for a few days. I guess one of the first
things we need to do is get a release manager lined up so we can start
pulling the list of release content together with some focus.
Any volunteers?
Simon
Are the distribution artefacts now being produced? Can we add the links to
the web site? If so what should they be?
Simon
OK, thanks, simon
Simon
Ok, so can our Confluence admins tell us if we need to create a JIRA with
infra to make this happen or whether they can action this?
Simon
Ok, thanks Venkat for looking into this.
Simon
Yeah, Venkat did loads on the last release. +1 from me for Venkat as 0.91 RM
Simon
I've starting to move and reorganize some of the distributed runtime ideas
from my sandbox into the trunk. So far there is not much there
modules/
topology - and empty module for topology model things
samples/
calculator-distributed - the current motivating use case.
There have been several
I did try
SCADomain.newInstance(http://whatever/uri;, mydir1, my.composite)
and it didn't work for me. The code only seems to take any notice of
location if it's and absolute URL (which the above location is not) so I
would expect
SCASCADomain.newInstance(http://localhost;,
OK cool - I'm not going to do any more here today but if you do more I'll
pick it up in the morning.
Simon
Looking back at this I think you are right that the specs that that a Domain
will have a base URI per scheme. We may have been a bit over zelous with the
base URIs in there association with bindings.
I'm just wondering why we assumed it was defined on a binding basis. I
imagine separate base
No, it was operator error. For some reason I didn't snip out the bit I was
replying to. Apologies
Simon
- Original Message -
From: Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: SCA Binding and Disitribution was: Distributed Composites
[snip]
Simon Laws wrote:
Ok, I've taken the next step here and have a distributed runtime
let me know if any of you have concerns about all of
this. Also,
are
we clear about how we are going to migrate content submitted on
TUSCANYWIKI
over to TUSCANY?
Thanks
- Venkat
On 6/12/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, thanks Venkat
On 6/12/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've starting to move and reorganize some of the distributed runtime ideas
from my sandbox into the trunk. So far there is not much there
modules/
topology - and empty module for topology model things
samples/
calculator-distributed
I agree. Looking at it now it is confusing with the complete copy of the web
site material presented on the front page. It's not clear where the
definitive source of this material is.
+1 to the proposal for changing the front page of TUSCANYWIKI. I would have
thought we can just start with a
On 6/15/07, Huang Kai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all:
How do I add a contribution to an existing domain, without creating a
new domain?
And I have no way to get a ContributionService instance in current
domain before I can call its contribute() or remove() method (IMHO, it
should has a
Following on from recent discussion on the distributed binding (I've been
putting notes here [1])... In a Tuscany SCA runtime what do we expect the
cardinality between the various parts of it to be?
A domain notionally runs on a runtime. In the case of a stand-alone Tuscany
SCA runtime this will
The sca binding that I use in the distributed runtime has a few more
features than the one provided in assembly/core. I'd like to keep this
function separate from what has gone before. Any objections to me creating
binding-sca
or even
binding-sca-distributed
As an aside I also have a small
Hi Luciano
Thinking back, when I originally started bringing the JMS binding back to
life I used ActiveMQ 4.1.0 and was getting errors something like this. The
error doesn't occur at 4.2 so I didn't look at it very closely. 4.2 is only
a snapshot though so not very helpful yet. If it's causing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
+1 from me too. I'm sure Venkat will do a fine job.
Simon
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
Simon Laws wrote:
Yeah, Venkat did loads on the last release. +1 from
me
for
Venkat
I can speak for the following
binding-jms - Works for sychronous, Java object based messages and
implements a part of the spec but not all of it. So it depends on how
comfortable we are with spec incomplete bindings. I would leave it out for
now
binding-sca - part of the distributed runtime.
Posting to tuscany and php lists
I raised a bug (http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-1362) as we
noticed in PHP that C++ SDO was going out across the network to find schema
identified by namespace alone even when the schema had already been read.
The problem is that the list that is
of components across two runtimes instead of nodes? Anyways,
to
start with, I'd be happy to leave this out for the next iteration.
Thanks
- Venkat
On 6/18/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Following on from recent discussion on the distributed binding (I've
been
putting notes here [1
With the changes associated with
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-1338 I've now put the simple
distributed runtime support into head. The modules I've added are
modules/
topology/topology-xml - describe and read the node to component mapping
(not actually used at the moment)
OK, thanks Pete, I'll take a look.
I've collected a couple of utilites that have helped me during debugging
some problems (
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/sandbox/slaws/sample-sca-toys/).
For example this is the code I drop at the end of a test to print out the
model hierarchy that was built:
// inspect
On 6/20/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With the changes associated with
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-1338 I've now put the simple
distributed runtime support into head. The modules I've added are
modules/
topology/topology-xml - describe and read the node
/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've collected a couple of utilites that have helped me during debugging
some problems (
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/sandbox/slaws/sample-sca-toys/
).
For example this is the code I drop at the end of a test to print out
On 6/22/07, Adriano Crestani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, can anyone tell me why I'm not being able to edit the wiki? I get this
message:
You do not have permission to view this page.
You have to be a member of *all* the following groups to access this page.
If this is incorrect please
On 6/22/07, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know what would be the best way from the Tuscany standpoint, but
having some sort of configuration object (maybe a StAXArtifactProcessor)
mirroring part of a global Tuscany configuration and available in the
module
activator would be
and cardinality
Hi,
Please see my comments inline below.
Thanks,
Raymond
- Original Message -
From: Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: tuscany-dev tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 5:25 AM
Subject: Domains, runtimes, components and cardinality
Following
is and
how you get to run it. I guess this is something we have already done
for
the samples.
- Venkat
On 6/21/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
Simon Laws wrote:
Are we releasing the demos this time? Were you sans aggregator
because
On 6/23/07, Pete Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have created a maintenance branch */incubator/tuscany/branches/sdo-
cpp-pre2.1/*
Work towards SDO 2.1 specification compliance will continue in HEAD.
Cheers,
On 22/06/07, Pete Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As is shown by the analysis
The error isn't immediately meaningful but I'll take a look and see if I can
work out what's going on.
Simon
On 6/25/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Module samples/calculator-distributed fails to build, breaking the SCA
nightly build.
I moved the module out of the main
to
rewrite
it! It looks like it is over complex and news up a SDOSchemaSax2Parser
that
is never freed. I'll maybe take a look at getting that into shape in the
next week.
Cheers,
On 20/06/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, thanks Pete, I'll take a look.
--
Pete
--
Pete
On 6/25/07, Huang Kai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, all:
I think a notification mechanism useful to let spi provider know what
is going on in the SCA container.
A notification should be sent when
Contribution/Composite/Component/Artifact start or stop. Ofcoz stop() method
in
On 6/27/07, Luciano Resende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
+1
Welcome Fuhwei
On 6/27/07, Raymond Feng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
+1 from me.
Thanks,
Raymond
- Original Message -
From: Frank Budinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 5:47 AM
On 6/27/07, Rajini Sivaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
Is there any way for an implementation provider to detect when a
contribution is updated/removed from an SCA domain or when a domain is
closed?
The OSGi implementation provider for SCA allows an OSGi bundle to be
shared
across
, with the copied Web site home page
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/Home
linked from the TUSCANYWIKI front page.
Simon
Simon Laws wrote:
I agree. Looking at it now it is confusing with the complete copy of the
web
site material presented on the front page. It's
On 7/1/07, Luciano Resende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd like to propose using a structure similar to the one described
below to group documents together and make it easier to find related
information. It's probably good not to have very deep hierarchy, and
maybe start grouping things on a
|
|--- Website related documents and old website copy
Thoughts ?
On 6/30/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/15/07, Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd like to retain the copied pages from the Tuscany web
site. As
Venkat
said, this makes it easy for non
On 6/29/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/28/07, Venkata Krishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Please review and vote on the 0.91 release artifacts of Tuscany SCA for
Java.
The artifacts are available for review at:
http://people.apache.org/~svkrish/tuscany/0.91-rc1/
The SVN
On 7/2/07, Venkata Krishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I am looking at the Policy Framework and shall update the wiki on the
specifics soon. Once this is done to some level, I'd also like to help a
bit with the ws-* things (may be WS-Security to start with) that Ant has
listed on the wiki
On 7/2/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/2/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/1/07, Luciano Resende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please vote to release the beta1 distribution of Tuscany DAS for Java.
The Release Candidate RC1 for Tuscany Java DAS beta1 is available at
On 7/2/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/2/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/2/07, Venkata Krishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I am looking at the Policy Framework and shall update the wiki on the
specifics soon. Once this is done to some level, I'd also like
The runtime classes (ReallySmallRuntime and ReallySmallRuntimeBuilder) and
the EmbeddedSCADomain implementation are pretty well locked down in terms of
overriding their members and functions. I had to make copies of most of this
function to create the distributed runtime and domain. Can we loosen
It would be good to get the community's thoughts about what management and
distributed runtime scenarios we should support in Tuscany.
There has been quite a bit of discussion on the distributed runtime itself
here. The main focus so far has been on using an SCA assembly to represent
the
The SCA binding provides the default binding and appears when the user
doesn't explicitly provide a binding against a reference or a service. The
Tuscany runtime can use the SCA binding to implement local wires between
components running in the same VM or remote wires between components running
On 7/3/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/3/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In writing the Topology mode I had to make a copy of the base artifact
processor as it only has package visibilityIt has lots of useful
utilities
alongside the assembly specific bits. How about we
is not
supported currently. There is work on an SCADomain spanning multiple
runtimes. This would be a simpler case of an SCADomain spanning
multiple classloaders or (configurations in Geronimo).
SCADomain can span multiple runtimes. Simon Laws from Tuscany is driving
the
support of distributed SCADomain
On 7/5/07, John Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All,
A quick question on the use of JMS. The Tuscany web site says that the
supported bindings are currently:
Webservice using Apache Axis2
JMS (tested with Apache ActiveMQ)
JSON-RPC
So how would someone use the Tuscany JMS binding with a
Hi Manu
more comments in line
On 7/4/07, Manu George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Simon,
In one of the previous mails Sebastien proposed two
ways of how the SCADomain should exist in geronimo
(a) one instance of SCADomain per component running on the server,
loaded with a
Now that the server problems seem to be solved I've again been trying to
build DAS but have SDO problems. When maven comes to downloading emf
dependencies it reports checksum failures (not sure if this is
significant)...
[INFO]
version via direct email. Please let me know if this fixes
your
problem. I will pursue an eclipse contact to try to get this fixed up.
Regards, Kelvin.
On 06/07/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now that the server problems seem to be solved I've again been trying to
build DAS but have
On 7/6/07, Scott Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Raymond,
Your proposal makes sense to me.
It seems like a nice simplification to view the component-level intf (2)
as
existing only for testing
wire-mappability of interfaces and to view the componentType intf, (or
impl-level intf) (1) and
the
On 7/6/07, Mike Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Huang,
I assume that by reference here, you mean a service reference? If
that is so, it should work.
If you mean that composite A has a component which uses composite B as
an implementation and that composite B has a component which uses
On 7/6/07, Venkata Krishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Please review and vote on the 0.91 release artifacts of Tuscany SCA for
Java.
The artifacts are available for review at:
http://people.apache.org/~svkrish/tuscany/0.91-rc2/
This includes the binary and source distributions, the RAT
On 7/8/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looks ok to me as well so +1.
...ant
On 7/6/07, Venkata Krishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Please review and vote on the 0.91 release artifacts of Tuscany SCA for
Java.
The artifacts are available for review at:
Hi Manu, I'm away this week but here are a few more thoughts for now.
On 7/6/07, Manu George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Simon,
Comments inline.
On 7/5/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Manu
more comments in line
On 7/4/07, Manu George [EMAIL PROTECTED
On 7/16/07, Luciano Resende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ant wrote:
So no problem, when someone comes along we want to grant access just
discuss
and vote on the private list and we can just give them access.
+1
On 7/15/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Apache CWIKI page is now quite
On 7/16/07, Raymond Feng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
+1 for the release.
I guess that we need to document the issue reported by
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-1435 in the release note.
Thanks,
Raymond
- Original Message -
From: Venkata Krishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
On 7/16/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/16/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/16/07, Raymond Feng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
+1 for the release.
I guess that we need to document the issue reported by
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-1435
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