Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: WTF With FB News?

2016-09-09 Thread PGage
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 10:42 PM, Kevin M. wrote: > I never said their choices for what is considered trending actually > applied to the users who see them. I don't want 99% of what I see as > trending on Facebook or Twitter, but I'm accustomed to that and generally >

Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: WTF With FB News?

2016-09-09 Thread PGage
BTW - out of curiosity, I went back and checked my FB News feed after posting the above. One of the top trending stories was "Hillary's Health Concerns Serious, Say Most Doctors Polled by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons". This is a fake survey published by a crackpot group that

Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: WTF With FB News?

2016-09-09 Thread Kevin M.
I never said their choices for what is considered trending actually applied to the users who see them. I don't want 99% of what I see as trending on Facebook or Twitter, but I'm accustomed to that and generally ignore any content being spoonfed to me. But I'm a middle aged white guy with no

Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: WTF With FB News?

2016-09-09 Thread PGage
All I can say Kevin is that what you are reporting has definitively not been my experience recently. I am seeing a high fraction of Breitbart articles and fake news stories, similar to the McCain piece I shared earlier today. I have never seen anything like this ever showing up in my actual FB

Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: WTF With FB News?

2016-09-09 Thread Kevin M.
Facebook's trending topics are NOT universal. Just as Amazon's pricing varies depending on your age, gender, location, and purchase/viewing history, Facebook's trending topics vary based on who your friends are, what you search for, what you click on, and your own level of interaction with the

Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: WTF With FB News?

2016-09-09 Thread PGage
I have to think Adam is right here; we are not talking about gossip - there was plenty of that on the FB trending feed even when they were using human editors. What we are seeing now is real, moldy bull shit, that I just can't believe the FB decision-makers really want to see on their front page.

Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: WTF With FB News?

2016-09-09 Thread Adam Bowie
Gawker and TMZ were, or are not aimed at everyone. Yes - they want to maximise page views and did all they could to do so. But that was amongst their target audience. For starters both were aimed squarely at Americans, and Americans interested in gossip of one sort or another. I'm not saying

Re: [TV orNotTV] Bristology: Will this get tired quickly?

2016-09-09 Thread daniel anderson
It;s going to be weird hearing Sean rather than Howard or Frank or Al or Mike over that theme. On Friday, September 9, 2016 at 5:45:53 PM UTC-4, Mark Jeffries wrote: > > Didn't see that on Chrome. > > PR also says that "Heavy Action" has been re-recorded by the stock library > house APM in

[TV orNotTV] Netflix Picks Up Netflix Concert Film of--Timberlake?

2016-09-09 Thread Mark Jeffries
The classic rock/80s rock contingent may get up in arms that Jonathan Demme, director of the beloved Talking Heads concert film "Stop Making Sense," has now made a concert film of the final tour performance of Justin Timberlake in Vegas called "Justin Timberlake + The Tennessee Kids" (that's

[TV orNotTV] Say Goodbye to Cable Box (and Pay More Money)

2016-09-09 Thread Mark Jeffries
The FCC is saying that set-top boxes (which are not necessarily required for today's TV sets to get cable) could be obsolete as the cable companies will be required to offer free apps which provide what the boxes are currently providing (including program guides and DVR), which may mean having

Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: WTF With FB News?

2016-09-09 Thread Kevin M.
On Friday, September 9, 2016, PGage wrote: > > I understand that is what you are claiming; what I am having trouble > believing is that it is actually true that the kinds of stories they are > posting will actually get them more page clicks. > > > Gawker was seen by millions.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Bristology: Will this get tired quickly?

2016-09-09 Thread Mark Jeffries
Didn't see that on Chrome. PR also says that "Heavy Action" has been re-recorded by the stock library house APM in London with an 87-piece orchestra and will replace the original over-40-year-old recording on "MNF." Mark Jeffries Saints Spotlight Editor spotligh...@gmail.com On Wed, Sep 7, 2016

Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: WTF With FB News?

2016-09-09 Thread PGage
I understand that is what you are claiming; what I am having trouble believing is that it is actually true that the kinds of stories they are posting will actually get them more page clicks. On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Kevin M. wrote: > > I'm making the claim

Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: WTF With FB News?

2016-09-09 Thread Kevin M.
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 1:42 PM, PGage wrote: > I agree with Adam in this, but aside from that, is Kevin making the claim > that FB wants to list these sleazy stories in its trending feed? I was > assuming FB was embarrassed about what was obviously a mistake and working > on

Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: WTF With FB News?

2016-09-09 Thread PGage
I agree with Adam in this, but aside from that, is Kevin making the claim that FB wants to list these sleazy stories in its trending feed? I was assuming FB was embarrassed about what was obviously a mistake and working on trying to fix it. Why do they think that pushing fake news stories somehow

Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: WTF With FB News?

2016-09-09 Thread Kevin M.
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Adam Bowie wrote: > > > Just because a website doesn't consider itself part of the news-media, for > better or for worse, it *is* a dissipater of news. They've actively done > deals with news providers to get outlets to use Facebook, most

Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: WTF With FB News?

2016-09-09 Thread Adam Bowie
FIrst to note is that Facebook has now backed down on the "napalm girl" photo: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/sep/09/facebook-reinstates-napalm-girl-photo On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Kevin M. wrote: > Much like the late Gawker, Facebook's goal is to

Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: WTF With FB News?

2016-09-09 Thread Kevin M.
Much like the late Gawker, Facebook's goal is to draw the masses to the website. The goal is not to provide or distribute information, merely to share (and get users to share) content to keep people interested. Also worth noting that, unlike Twitter, Facebook doesn't label paid posts as ads in

Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: WTF With FB News?

2016-09-09 Thread PGage
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Adam Bowie wrote: > Basically FB has fired the team that used to put manually put that > trending sidebar together. This followed that report that suggested the > team were too "liberal" and weren't including right-leaning stories in the >

Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: WTF With FB News?

2016-09-09 Thread Adam Bowie
Basically FB has fired the team that used to put manually put that trending sidebar together. This followed that report that suggested the team were too "liberal" and weren't including right-leaning stories in the trending section. Instead, FB has gone for an algorithmic approach, but so far with

[TV orNotTV] NotTV: WTF With FB News?

2016-09-09 Thread PGage
Something has been happening with the stories pushed on the home page of my Facebook. This has never been a source of the most trusted news stories, but at least in the past there was some semblance of newsiness to them. But for the last few days (or maybe longer, I don't read this that often) the

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: New Trek will be a view from proverbial gallery

2016-09-09 Thread Kevin M.
On Thursday, September 8, 2016, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV < tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Based on this tweet from Star Trek: Discovery EP Bryan Fuller: > > https://twitter.com/BryanFuller/status/774062077811929090 > > My suspicions appear to be off. Kevin's instincts seem spot on.