Re: [TV orNotTV] Olympics 2021 TV

2021-08-30 Thread 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV
Cleaning out my (PTD) inbox I found this... could it have been "your man"? https://apnews.com/article/2020-tokyo-olympics-soccer-entertainment-sports-arts-and-entertainment-1e0a900622b327f5ea155e7609b9c84f (link) B Tom Wolper, August 16th: > During the Olympics I saw an AP story that Olympics

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2021-08-16 Thread Tom Wolper
During the Olympics I saw an AP story that Olympics ratings in prime time were way down. When I tried to find it to post a link here it disappeared. I thought there would be more discussion in the media about how NBC was handling the games and their ratings. If there was I didn't see it though I al

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2021-08-02 Thread PGage
I have been without power for most of the previous two days (I live in a rural area, and my electricity comes from one of the worst power companies in the US), so I was doubly glad I got up early Saturday to watch the T&F live, as I was only able to watch the NBC primetime coverage from Saturday ni

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2021-08-02 Thread Adam Bowie
On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 3:36 PM Tom Wolper wrote: > On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 9:41 AM Adam Bowie wrote: > >> This piece by an Aussie journalist who works in America amused me. >> Spoiler: He's not an NBC super-fan - >> https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/aug/02/nbc-olympic-coverage-peacock-replay

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2021-08-02 Thread Tom Wolper
On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 9:41 AM Adam Bowie wrote: > This piece by an Aussie journalist who works in America amused me. > Spoiler: He's not an NBC super-fan - > https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/aug/02/nbc-olympic-coverage-peacock-replays-primetime > A lot of his criticisms are the same ones

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2021-08-02 Thread Adam Bowie
This piece by an Aussie journalist who works in America amused me. Spoiler: He's not an NBC super-fan - https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/aug/02/nbc-olympic-coverage-peacock-replays-primetime On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 1:53 PM Adam Bowie wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 1:29 PM Doug Eastick

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2021-08-02 Thread Adam Bowie
On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 1:29 PM Doug Eastick wrote: > Fyi... The CBC web on-demand viewing of events (i.e. select "archery"), > and probably even live, is the OBS feed . I have not watched enough to > completely say it's true. > > I guess it makes life easy to use the OBS audio for everything str

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2021-08-02 Thread Doug Eastick
Fyi... The CBC web on-demand viewing of events (i.e. select "archery"), and probably even live, is the OBS feed . I have not watched enough to completely say it's true. On Mon., Aug. 2, 2021, 6:37 a.m. Adam Bowie, wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 11:49 AM PGage wrote: > >> I am up early (3:

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2021-08-02 Thread Adam Bowie
On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 11:49 AM PGage wrote: > I am up early (3:00 am PT) to watch the Men’s 100 M semifinals and finals > live. The Women’s 100 M was on live in Primetime last night, but I guess > the men’s did not work out to have in the morning in Tokyo. I’m not > complaining about that. > > W

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2021-08-01 Thread Kevin M.
On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 3:49 AM PGage wrote: > I am up early (3:00 am PT) to watch the Men’s 100 M semifinals and finals > live. The Women’s 100 M was on live in Primetime last night, but I guess > the men’s did not work out to have in the morning in Tokyo. I’m not > complaining about that. > > Wh

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2021-08-01 Thread PGage
Now that it’s over, I will rewatch tonight (if I am awake) to see how NBC did with it, but I so enjoyed watching the OBS coverage of what turned out to be an extraordinary track and field night at the Olympics, and doubt I would have liked NBC any more. On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 at 3:48 AM PGage wrote:

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2021-08-01 Thread PGage
I am up early (3:00 am PT) to watch the Men’s 100 M semifinals and finals live. The Women’s 100 M was on live in Primetime last night, but I guess the men’s did not work out to have in the morning in Tokyo. I’m not complaining about that. While I am happy there is a way to watch this and every Oly

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2021-07-29 Thread John Edwards
It dates back to 1988 in Seoul, when the track finals were shifted to the morning local time, to be in US Eastern prime time. John On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 11:23 AM danieland...@gmail.com < danielanderson2...@gmail.com> wrote: > Has the swimming always been in the morning to accommodate NBC? In >

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2021-07-29 Thread PGage
As I have been arguing elsewhere, the ratings problems are not due to desexualizing women athletes, and mostly to the same factors that have led to the accelerated ratings declines for all broadcast television events. My 23 year old son tells me most of his friends prefer to simply find out who won

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2021-07-28 Thread Adam Bowie
On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 4:23 PM danieland...@gmail.com < danielanderson2...@gmail.com> wrote: > Has the swimming always been in the morning to accommodate NBC? In > 2008, Dick Ebersol, the(then) chairman of NBC Sports, had secured the > support of the International Olympic Committee for the critic

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2021-07-28 Thread danieland...@gmail.com
Has the swimming always been in the morning to accommodate NBC? In 2008, Dick Ebersol, the(then) chairman of NBC Sports, had secured the support of the International Olympic Committee for the critical move of the finals of the key television sports of swimming and gymnastics to morning hours in

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2021-07-27 Thread Kevin M.
And the ratings are in https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/nbcuniversal-tokyo-olympics-make-goods-advertising-1235028563/ On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 12:26 PM PGage wrote: > Thanks Adam! This was really helpful. I thought the lack of national > boosterism was just British reserve and good manners, bu

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2021-07-27 Thread PGage
Thanks Adam! This was really helpful. I thought the lack of national boosterism was just British reserve and good manners, but I should have know that never stopped the British Empire from looking after its own interests. Definitely some of the NBC commentators are at home in the US, but there are

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2021-07-27 Thread Doug Eastick
regardings Adam's elaboration on feeds and commentators locations. CBC's main "hosts" for broadcasts are all located in Toronto this year. Many commentators are as well -- I presume Swimming as well because we've never seen Byron McDonald on camera this week. I'll see if I can find the articl

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2021-07-27 Thread Adam Bowie
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 4:12 PM PGage wrote: > Adam, do you think it is this Discovery coverage that NBCOLYMPICS.COM is > streaming? The commentators all seem to have some sort of British accent > (my ear is not good enough to rule out an occasional Australian or South > African, and there was at

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2021-07-27 Thread PGage
Adam, do you think it is this Discovery coverage that NBCOLYMPICS.COM is streaming? The commentators all seem to have some sort of British accent (my ear is not good enough to rule out an occasional Australian or South African, and there was at least one Irish accent, though not sure which one). O

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2021-07-27 Thread Adam Bowie
The big news here in the UK is that this is the first Olympics in recent times where the BBC has had to cede much of its coverage to Discovery - who own the pan-European Eurosport channel(s). Since the London games in 2012, the BBC has had commercial-free access to every minute of games footage. In

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2021-07-26 Thread M-D November
Along similar lines, the German women’s gymnastics team is competing in unitards which include coverage for arms & legs, rather than the “traditional” bikini cut leotard, seeking parity with the male gymnasts, who wear regular shorts during floorex and long pants on other apparatus. Biles has b

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2021-07-26 Thread John Edwards
The ridiculous women's volleyball uniforms come from the international volleyball federation (FIVB). They brought that rule in about 20-25 years ago. In beach, that means bikini bottoms, in indoor volleyball the women wear booty shorts, while the men wear regular shorts. So it wasn't necessarily a

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2021-07-26 Thread PGage
Totally agree about how they present women athletes, both doing a much better job, and long overdue. I think they have said this was the first year where there are the same number of men and women participating, and there are more returning US women medal winners than men. The two highest profile U

Re: [TV orNotTV] Olympics 2021 TV

2021-07-26 Thread Kevin M.
On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 11:28 AM Tom Wolper wrote: > On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 10:37 AM PGage wrote: > >> Overall I am digging the way these Olympics are being presented. Whenever >> I am tempted to complain about something, I tell myself to STF up, as my >> younger self remembers having no choice

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2021-07-26 Thread Tom Wolper
On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 10:37 AM PGage wrote: > Overall I am digging the way these Olympics are being presented. Whenever > I am tempted to complain about something, I tell myself to STF up, as my > younger self remembers having no choice but to watch partial and very > incomplete US-centric high

[TV orNotTV] Olympics 2021 TV

2021-07-26 Thread PGage
Overall I am digging the way these Olympics are being presented. Whenever I am tempted to complain about something, I tell myself to STF up, as my younger self remembers having no choice but to watch partial and very incomplete US-centric highlights with Jim McKay’s at times jingoistic commentary.