[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

+1 for Dewald getting his own session at Chirp! ;) (Seriously!) On Apr 10, 2:49 pm, Dewald Pretorius wrote: > Maybe it's because I'm of the older generation, have been there and > done that, and have discovered that the top looks so green because of > all the crap that lies and flies there, tha

[twitter-dev] Re: Bulk User Relationship Lookup?

Any way I can specify a target other than myself for who to lookup relationships against? On Apr 9, 12:17 pm, Raffi Krikorian wrote: > at the risk of introducing features instead of fixing bugs, this endpoint > may also be of use -- its a work in progress, and a few details of it may > change: >

[twitter-dev] Can an authorize URL pass through a parameter?

I've got a specific question and a general one. The specific one first. When I registered my application with Twitter, it made me specify a callback URL. In fact, what page I want Twitter to "call back" depends on what the user is doing! Consequently, the callback page must figure out what the

Re: [twitter-dev] Twitter Streaming + Geo = 4square Vision

yeah - definitely proof of concept and useful for prototyping and experimenting. http://r.github.com/twstreamer/ On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Chad Etzel wrote: > Nice username grab, raffi! > > Also, nice lib. I wonder what awesome thing this could be used fo

Re: [twitter-dev] Twitter Streaming + Geo = 4square Vision

Nice username grab, raffi! Also, nice lib. I wonder what awesome thing this could be used for testing... :) I'm doing a significant bit of stream pre-processing on the backend before pushing stuff to the browser (it would probably crush most non-chrome browsers to do it all in javascript), plus t

Re: [twitter-dev] Twitter REST API Method: POST /:user/:list_id/members ???

not yet, right now. but that's a good idea -- we've been on a kick of "bulk-ifying" our methods, and i'll add that to our list. On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 2:24 PM, adamjamesdrew wrote: > Twitter REST API Method: POST /:user/:list_id/members > > http://api.twitter.com/1/user/list_id/members.format

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Hello all, Question about multi gets

yeah - unfortunately there is no way around that. you could just use the streaming api and pull that in. On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:49 AM, adamjamesdrew wrote: > Thanks for the quick response. That sounds like a good idea. Do you > know of anyway around the 200 tweets per page limit? I will st

Re: [twitter-dev] Twitter Streaming + Geo = 4square Vision

hotness! one thing that may be of use: http://github.com/r/twstreamer On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Chad Etzel wrote: > Hey all, > > Remember TwitterVision? > > As a break from the current flame threads, here is something I threw > together today on my day off to show at least one thing that

[twitter-dev] Twitter Streaming + Geo = 4square Vision

Hey all, Remember TwitterVision? As a break from the current flame threads, here is something I threw together today on my day off to show at least one thing that I don't think Twitter will implement itself. Mahsup: Twitter Streaming API, Twitter Geo data, Foursquare "API" (more like semi-scrapi

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Introduce yourself!

On 04/10/2010 04:48 PM, Ivo wrote: > Hi there, > my name is Ivo Wetzel and I'm a 22 year old, currently jobless guy > from Germany :D > > I started with programming at the age of 12, trying to make that "Oh I > want to make my own Game"-Dream come true. > > I've recently switched from Vista to Ub

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

+1 for the metaphors :) We all know what Twitter would like to see. No surprise here, nothing extraordinary, just advices we already were aware of. I mean... Who intended to code another photo sharing service or another desktop client before these annoucements? I guess nobody. Anybody who has bee

[twitter-dev] Re: Final Hack Day schedule for Chirp with discount code

I actually would consider buying these tickets, but 5 days notice; that's not so good for non-locals. Thanks for trying to make it affordable to mailing list folks, tho. -- Ed Finkler http://funkatron.com @funkatron AIM: funka7ron / ICQ: 3922133 / XMPP:funkat...@gmail.com On Apr 10, 9:18 pm, Ry

[twitter-dev] Final Hack Day schedule for Chirp with discount code

Hey all, Wanted to let you know that we have finalized the schedule for Hack Day sessions at Chirp. We're really excited about the content and would love to have you there. Also, each session has a Google Moderator section setup so you can get your questions in ahead of time. Be sure to add your q

[twitter-dev] Re: xAuth users?

Well nevermind this, I found what the problem was and it sort of had to do with the strings but not in the base string but the aouth authorization header string. I was skipping parameters if they were empty, which is not what is called for in the oauth specs. On Apr 10, 4:07 am, c0olcast wrote: >

[twitter-dev] Re: Introduce yourself!

Hi there, my name is Ivo Wetzel and I'm a 22 year old, currently jobless guy from Germany :D I started with programming at the age of 12, trying to make that "Oh I want to make my own Game"-Dream come true. I've recently switched from Vista to Ubuntu and couldn't find Twitter Client that fitted m

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

- "Jesse Stay" wrote: > Why are you filling holes in Twitter? Why not rather create your own > holes and use Twitter to fill them. When you own the dirt you have > control over what grows in that dirt. I think we've pretty much exhausted the holes and dirt metaphor, and I'd like to propose

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

Why are you filling holes in Twitter? Why not rather create your own holes and use Twitter to fill them. When you own the dirt you have control over what grows in that dirt. On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Arnaud Meunier < arnaud.meun...@twitoaster.com> wrote: > We shouldn’t “fill holes” anym

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

Maybe it's because I'm of the older generation, have been there and done that, and have discovered that the top looks so green because of all the crap that lies and flies there, that I hold the opinions that I do. I can understand folks' ambitions to "make" it. I guess in a way it's like a green r

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

Chad, Sometimes (well, okay, almost always) I just don't feel like citing all possible caveats to what I'm saying. I'm not writing here with visions of possible literary grandeur, potential book deals, or speaking engagements. I call shit like I see it. Sometimes I'm right, sometimes I'm wrong. It

[twitter-dev] Twitter REST API Method: POST /:user/:list_id/members ???

Twitter REST API Method: POST /:user/:list_id/members http://api.twitter.com/1/user/list_id/members.format Can you add more than one user at a time? -- To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Dewald Pretorius wrote: > If you're an entrpreneur with strong ethical standards, then never > ever accept investment capital. You cannot be serious. Believe it or not there are ethical investors out there. Also, bootstrapping a company that goes huge is almost i

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

There are more colors (or shades of grey) in my world than just black and white... On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Dewald Pretorius wrote: > If you're an entrpreneur with strong ethical standards, then never > ever accept investment capital. > > Investors could not give a shit about your ethica

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

If you're an entrpreneur with strong ethical standards, then never ever accept investment capital. Investors could not give a shit about your ethical qualms or objections, and they are most certainly not going to accept a lower exit because of them If you don't play ball, they simply replace you

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

On 04/10/2010 11:45 AM, Arnaud Meunier wrote: > We shouldn’t “fill holes” anymore, Wilson said. The thing is Twitter > has deliberately kept a lot of holes opened, encouraging us to fill > them (and lots of applications have been doing it with innovation, by > the way). I don't know that it's "del

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

The answer, Abraham, is nothing stops them. Reread what Evan Williams said here: http://dld.bz/PG5 "Twitter will continue to buy or develop apps and features it needs, even if third-party developers already provide them." It clearly means Twitter intends to directly compete with its developer ec

Re: [twitter-dev] Open Sourcing Tweetie for Mac and iPhone

No, Etherpad was completely closed from the start. The team convinced Google to open-source it a few days after acquisition. Guys, this whole thread seems kind of... dunno, immature? Tweetie (in all of its flavors) are the IP of Atebits (and now Twitter, Inc). Demanding that it be open-sourced 5 s

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Hello all, Question about multi gets

Nope. Not unless you want to use the streaming API and track all the users in question. Abraham On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:49, adamjamesdrew wrote: > Thanks for the quick response. That sounds like a good idea. Do you > know of anyway around the 200 tweets per page limit? I will still have > t

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

This also adds the question of if we developers start digging new holes what is to stop Twitter from filling them in themselves? Abraham On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:45, Arnaud Meunier wrote: > We shouldn’t “fill holes” anymore, Wilson said. The thing is Twitter > has deliberately kept a lot of h

Re: [twitter-dev] Open Sourcing Tweetie for Mac and iPhone

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:44, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: > On 04/10/2010 06:29 AM, Lakshman Prasad wrote: > > Facebook acquired Friendfeed and open sourced it. > > > > Google acquired Etherpad and open sourced it. > > IIRC Etherpad *was* open source from the start. Google bought the > company

[twitter-dev] Re: Hello all, Question about multi gets

Thanks for the quick response. That sounds like a good idea. Do you know of anyway around the 200 tweets per page limit? I will still have to make many calls to get all the tweets I need. On Apr 9, 11:05 pm, Abraham Williams <4bra...@gmail.com> wrote: > Add the users to a list. > > http://apiwiki

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

We shouldn’t “fill holes” anymore, Wilson said. The thing is Twitter has deliberately kept a lot of holes opened, encouraging us to fill them (and lots of applications have been doing it with innovation, by the way). Now we’re supposed to dig, create new holes, and fill them. Okay! There are a lot

Re: [twitter-dev] Open Sourcing Tweetie for Mac and iPhone

On 04/10/2010 06:29 AM, Lakshman Prasad wrote: > Facebook acquired Friendfeed and open sourced it. > > Google acquired Etherpad and open sourced it. IIRC Etherpad *was* open source from the start. Google bought the company and put its developers to work on Wave, a pale "competitor" of Etherpad. E

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Dewald Pretorius wrote: > Jesse, > > There is a lot of merit in your point of view with regards to one's > core. > > But, what that also means is the death of the ecosystem as we know it. > The ecosystem as we know it used to develop "for" Twitter, enhancing > th

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

Chad - agreed! On 10 April 2010 18:28, Chad Etzel wrote: > On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Nigel Legg wrote: > > Surely all twitter developers are getting their success on the coattails > of > > Twitter, rather than twitter getting success on the coattails of the > > developers? > > This is a

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

Dewalt, surely it's a bit early to say they are kaput? As far as I can see, all twitter clients have their merits, and people tend to stick with the one that does what they want it to do in the way they want it to do it. I find it odd that, even though twitter has been directly competing with twit

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

If anyone would like to help withe the development of http://www.thefrequency.tv -- which integrates a focused Twitter search result feed but "adds value above the social layer" -- I would appreciate it. The Pulitzer Center is using the site currently. Allan Hoving On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:24 PM,

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Nigel Legg wrote: > Surely all twitter developers are getting their success on the coattails of > Twitter, rather than twitter getting success on the coattails of the > developers? This is a good point (is applies in my case, anyway). Had it not been for my hobby-

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

Nigel, Other Twitter iPhone clients are now kaput. You cannot compete with the official Twitter iPhone client, which is given away free of charge. There are quite a few "valued" developers who are having a very ruined day. Clients like TweetDeck and Seesmic should still be okay, because they are

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

Surely all twitter developers are getting their success on the coattails of Twitter, rather than twitter getting success on the coattails of the developers? If you as a user, as a supplier to users, cannot find something that tweetie doesn't do then maybe you haven't got your ear to the ground of w

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

Chad, That's what I meant by predatorial. All the past rethoric around how appreciative Twitter was of the developer ecosystem, and how they valued the developer ecosystem, has taken on a brand-new tone and color today. On Apr 10, 1:02 pm, Chad Etzel wrote: > On Apr 10, 2010, at 5:23, Dewald Pr

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

On Apr 10, 11:44 am, Jesse Stay wrote: > I think the more beneficial, and long-term advantageous approach > is instead to make Twitter a "support" for your application. Spot On!!   -- To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

On Apr 10, 2010, at 5:23, Dewald Pretorius wrote: Twitter has now displayed a distinctive predatorial stance towards the developer ecosystem. Whoa now. If by "predatorial" you mean "makes strategic acquisitions in line with their business goals" then sure. See also: Google, Facebook, App

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

Jesse, There is a lot of merit in your point of view with regards to one's core. But, what that also means is the death of the ecosystem as we know it. The ecosystem as we know it used to develop "for" Twitter, enhancing the Twitter offering. What you're proposing is a radical change, where one

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

In support of what Raffi is saying, I think too many apps are "supports" for Twitter (some call it "filling holes"). I think the more beneficial, and long-term advantageous approach is instead to make Twitter a "support" for your application. I hope this isn't seen as spam, but I wrote about this

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Fred Wilson article on Twitter API

Twitter has now displayed a distinctive predatorial stance towards the developer ecosystem. That's incredibly over dramatic, I think. We have, and continue to maintain a platform that will allow for a vibrant ecosystem. We want everybody to succeed.

Re: [twitter-dev] Open Sourcing Tweetie for Mac and iPhone

Just think of all the patches Chromium has gotten for free. Sign the petition now: http://act.ly/1w1 Abraham On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 07:25, Josh Roesslein wrote: > We have been seeing Twitter releasing more and more open source software > lately. > I think opening up any cli

Re: [twitter-dev] Open Sourcing Tweetie for Mac and iPhone

We have been seeing Twitter releasing more and more open source software lately. I think opening up any client acquisitions would help calm some of the panic and also help keep the community in the loop for helping improve the software. I think Twitter has more to gain by open sourcing than keeping

[twitter-dev] Re: xAuth users?

Hey there, I'm working on getting xAuth to work on an app i'm developing. I can't get the oauth_access_token to work while using unsafe chars like '=' and '+' as in your example (it works perfect for creds with no unsafe chars). I'm posting my strings and maybe you can help me here (Note: I'm repla

Re: [twitter-dev] Open Sourcing Tweetie for Mac and iPhone

Has Twitter opensourced any previous acquisition? Why would they change now? ∞ Andy Badera ∞ +1 518-641-1280 Google Voice ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private ∞ Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew%20badera On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Lakshman Prasad wrote:

[twitter-dev] Open Sourcing Tweetie for Mac and iPhone

Facebook acquired Friendfeed and open sourced it. Google acquired Etherpad and open sourced it. I'm wondering, if, on the same lines, twitter will open source Tweetie for Mac, and iPhone and the impending Tweetie for iPad. -- To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

Here's an interesting related thread on Twitter: http://dld.bz/PGz As well as this NY Times article: http://dld.bz/PG5 where Evan Williams says, "Twitter will continue to buy or develop apps and features it needs, even if third-party developers already provide them."

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

Twitter has now displayed a distinctive predatorial stance towards the developer ecosystem. The ecosystem is encouraged to innovate, to expend time, effort, and money to come up with new ideas and build services. When that particular space proves to be successful and potentially rewarding, the pre

[twitter-dev] Re: Fred Wilson article on Twitter API

Twitter has now displayed a distinctive predatorial stance towards the developer ecosystem. The ecosystem is encouraged to innovate, to expend time, effort, and money to come up with new ideas and build services. When that particular space proves to be successful and potentially rewarding, the pre

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

Hi Dewald, > But, there's a problem, and I hope I'm not the only seeing it. you're not the only one seeing it ;-) I guess the fact that Twitter clients played a major role in Twitter's "success" is making this move so special. On the other hand, I think it was inevitable, wasn't it? Twitter need