I also have to agree with the points and concerns brought up by
Dewald.
Also, the claim is they are providing a service for us, but its also
our apps that is making a potential business for them too.
I'm sure some of the devs of Twitter apps would prefer to have the
traffic going to their site w
Laura,
Fair enough. Those are the rules that you have decided should apply to
your business.
But, I will not hand over to you and your sublicensees the keys to my
intellectual property or app licenses simply for the privilege of
editing my app's information on your service.
All you really requi
Very well framed, Dewald. Why a contract for claiming the listing?
We provide two ways to associate the developer with the item: Credit
vs. Claiming.
CREDIT: Providing the rightful developer with credit is no problem and
attaches no contractual obligation. A listing on the site with the
name of
Henry the VIII HAD IT RIGHT,"The first thing i am going to do is kill all
the lawwyers
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Duane Roelands
wrote:
>
> No, no, a thousand times no.
>
> "Licensor further warrants to oneforty and its Customers and
> Sublicensees that the Licensed Item shall be free from
No, no, a thousand times no.
"Licensor further warrants to oneforty and its Customers and
Sublicensees that the Licensed Item shall be free from defects in
workmanship or design"
Does OneForty understand that the "licensed item" is -software- and
that software often contains bugs? Who determines
Maybe, at a more basic level my question is this:
Why do I need to enter into a contract with oneforty at all, when all
I want to do is say, "I am Joe, WonderSocialWidget is my app, and here
is more information about it."
Isn't this part of oneforty nothing more than a free application
directory
Laura,
If my understanding is correct, this new contract is applicable when I
want to claim my app in oneforty.
With that in mind:
a) Why do I need to license to oneforty and your sublicensees
(whomever that may be) all my trademarks, trade names, service marks,
logos or other identifying or di
Cross-posting this comment just posted to @BradleyJoyce's blog:
http://bit.ly/2RqnU9
Hi folks,
We're doing our best to hear and respond to developer feedback and
better serve the community.
Our approach to the developer contract was wrong. We're working to
make it right. Here's how:
Revised Pu
Laura,
You may want to consider temporarily removing the contract and maybe
even the entire claiming feature while you're sorting this out.
Why continue to ask developers to agree to something that you don't
agree with yourself, and continue to tick off developers?
It may be a prudent approach
Laura,
Sounds like you're taking some of the right steps to make your
offering better for everyone concerned. I look forward to seeing the
results of your efforts.
∞ Andy Badera
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I am reposting the @oneforty response to my blog post here for the
benefit of everyone:
---
Hey everyone, thank you for taking the time to help us better
understand and better serve the developer community.
We read this and shared it with our investors, adviso
Andrew us absolutely correct. I personally bear full responsibility
for letting that flawed contract get into production, even on a beta.
It was likewise my error of judgment to assume that the alpha testers
had been fine with the proposed contract merely because we had not
received adverse feedba
Duane Roelands wrote:
> I read it, and I was horrified. So, I logged into IRC and found two
> members of the OneForty development team. I asked them to remove my
> application from the directory.
>
> They refused.
>
> OneForty is not a developer-friendly platform.
That is unfortunate. If they
Andy,
I agree with you whole-heartedly to the point of giving a standing
ovation and a one-man Mexican wave.
I don't know the folks behind OneForty from the man in the moon and
have no grounds to vouch for or question their honesty or integrity.
But I do know this. When you express your busines
You could argue that it's a closed beta, so it's for finding this stuff
out...but yeah, I agree with you.
I just know how these threads can snowball, and I want to share my
experience that oneforty is made by good people. Don't like it, don't sign,
and of course raise concerns, but I would hate to
All else aside ... lawyers complicate things? Maybe, but you don't
launch a product/platform and expect commitment from outside parties
until YOU are happy with what YOUR lawyers have produced and thus YOU
are offering to the outside world.
There's no defense for a questionable contract. You stan
"OneForty is not a developer-friendly platform."
I think this is a demonstrably false statement. All of my interactions with
Laura and the 140 team have been very positive, and she's made it clear that
they're working on the contract. Sometimes lawyers overcomplicate things,
and it takes time to d
Yeah I just saw that, they're sticking to there guns.
On Oct 8, 6:24 pm, Duane Roelands wrote:
> I read it, and I was horrified. So, I logged into IRC and found two
> members of the OneForty development team. I asked them to remove my
> application from the directory.
>
> They refused.
>
> One
I read it, and I was horrified. So, I logged into IRC and found two
members of the OneForty development team. I asked them to remove my
application from the directory.
They refused.
OneForty is not a developer-friendly platform.
On Oct 8, 7:44 pm, "brad...@squeejee.com" wrote:
> wow, someh
wow, somehow managed to totally miss that thread... thanks!
On Oct 8, 6:07 pm, Dewald Pretorius wrote:
> There's another thread herehttp://bit.ly/Owfvdwhere the developer
> contract also raised some eyebrows.
>
> Dewald
>
> On Oct 8, 7:25 pm, "brad...@squeejee.com" wrote:
>
> > There has been a
There's another thread here http://bit.ly/Owfvd where the developer
contract also raised some eyebrows.
Dewald
On Oct 8, 7:25 pm, "brad...@squeejee.com" wrote:
> There has been a lot of buzz around OneForty.com and what it will mean
> for all of us Twitter app developers. However, some of the t
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