RE: [U2] UniData 7.1 vs. MS SQL 2005 performance

2007-07-16 Thread David Jordan
IBM AS400 developed a new transaction spec that suited the strengths of their product. We should create on that suits the U2 model. Unfortunately it will not be supported by IBM when it embarrasses DB2 Regards David Jordan --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscrib

RE: [U2] system builder question(s)

2007-07-16 Thread Boydell, Stuart
Doug, see the IBM website. U2/SB+ trial software: http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/download/search.jsp?go=y&rs=u2trial s Documentation including SBSolutions (Kevin King's book): http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/pubs/library/ >1. are there any "trial/restricted version of system build

Re: [U2] UniData 7.1 vs. MS SQL 2005 performance

2007-07-16 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
I do understand the advantages to that approach, Nick. But that was also the thinking of those who prepared the current industry benchmarks by locking in on SQL. My concern was that if you specify technologies, you can make it difficult for solutions that are outside the box. --dawn On 7/16/07,

RE: [U2] UniData 7.1 vs. MS SQL 2005 performance

2007-07-16 Thread Nick Cipollina
If the consumer of this data is going to be external, then I would definitely use web services. Using a standard format (SOAP) will make it possible for anyone to consume the data. Thanks, Nick Cipollina -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D

RE: [U2] UniData 7.1 vs. MS SQL 2005 performance

2007-07-16 Thread Tony Gravagno
phil walker wrote: > Why do that? > As long as the discussion is technical and relates to U2. Personally I agree, but there are times when some discussions fork into technical but very narrow directions. OK, proposal withdrawn, thanks. T --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org

Re: [U2] UniData 7.1 vs. MS SQL 2005 performance

2007-07-16 Thread Clifton Oliver
And to keep the discussion thread in the same set of archives. IMO, Clif On Jul 16, 2007, at 4:22 PM, Tom Dodds wrote: I think they should remain here to the benefit of all U2 members. Just my 2 cents worth. Tom Dodds InformCorp, LLC "Information for Corporations" [E

RE: [U2] UniData 7.1 vs. MS SQL 2005 performance

2007-07-16 Thread phil walker
Tony, Why do that? As long as the discussion is technical and relates to U2. There is plenty of stuff a lot of people on this list are probably not interested in but it still percolates on the list/forum so to speak. Personally I just filter it out. As long as the Subject is well specified you can

RE: [U2] UniData 7.1 vs. MS SQL 2005 performance

2007-07-16 Thread Tom Dodds
I think they should remain here to the benefit of all U2 members. Just my 2 cents worth. Tom Dodds InformCorp, LLC "Information for Corporations" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 708-234-9608 Office 630-235-2975 Cell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [U2] UniData 7.1 vs. MS SQL 2005 performance

2007-07-16 Thread Tony Gravagno
Dawn wrote: > I'm starting to get that "fear of being tossed to u2-community" vibe > when typing this... Time for some chocolate, perhaps. --dawn I don't think this is a u2-community discussion. I've been contacted by a few people who have found the discussions (benchmarks, web services, and r

Re: [U2] UniData 7.1 vs. MS SQL 2005 performance

2007-07-16 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
I agree with Geoffrey, Wol. It would not be pretty, but one could presumably build a "Nelson-Pick datamodel" on top of data stored as relational data are today (easier to put a relational model on PIck since PIck is more fully featured). There is some tight-coupling between the logical and physi

[U2] UV sentence stack

2007-07-16 Thread Clifton Oliver
In reply to a previous question (the e-mail of which I've already deleted--oops), the current sentence stack is accessible from UV Basic in system(33). Note, however, that the documentation in both the 10.2 manual (the only one I checked) and the 10.2 online help is incorrect. It states tha

Re: [U2] UniData 7.1 vs. MS SQL 2005 performance

2007-07-16 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
Yes, agreed. I think if you start with user requirements for services, then have folks design for those requirements according to each environment, that would be a good start. I hesitate to say that it must be "web services" only because that might imply use of SOAP or an XML exchange that could

Re: [U2] UV - Available memory exceeded [not-secure]

2007-07-16 Thread Clifton Oliver
Or monster large "records," typically out of a type 1 or 19 file. Example would be trying to ED &PH& GAZILLION_LINE_FILE. -- Regards, Clif ~~~ W. Clifton Oliver, CCP CLIFTON OLIVER & ASSOCIATES Tel: +1 619 460 5678Web: www.oliver.com ~

RE: [U2] system builder question(s)

2007-07-16 Thread Steve Long
Kevin's book is the best, although I don't think you can get it from him anymore. I think you can get it from IBM though. Steve> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:54:16 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> Subject: [U2] system builder question(s)> > Hey all,> I have a couple

RE: [U2] UniData 7.1 vs. MS SQL 2005 performance

2007-07-16 Thread Marc Harbeson
That's why I suggested a web service method - by which each db could employ whatever methodologies they have available - where the front end could run the same transaction sets thru different back end API sets. An example API might be "Book Order" or "Ship Order" for example. I would imagine a f

RE: [U2] [UV] Stacker commands

2007-07-16 Thread Jerry Banker
It's only in the &SAVEDLISTS& file after you log out. While you are processing it is in one of the SYSTEM() fields. -Original Message- From: David Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 2:11 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] [UV] Stacker commands &

Re: [U2] UniData 7.1 vs. MS SQL 2005 performance

2007-07-16 Thread Geoffrey Mitchell
Read Codd and & Date's rules. Can't remember which, but one of them says "the database user is not permitted to know how the database stores the data". In other words, empirical testing is FORBIDDEN. Seeing as empirical testing is *the* "sine qua non" of science, relational databases are, BY DE

RE: [U2] UV - Available memory exceeded [not-secure]

2007-07-16 Thread Jeff Fitzgerald
Mark, This is perhaps grasping at straws and likely not the cause, but... We've seen this type of behavior "available memory exceeded" with (1) aborted resizes -- resize bits are left set and can cause attempts to reopen the file in a loop, eventually filling up the stack space, a

RE: [U2] UV - Available memory exceeded [not-secure]

2007-07-16 Thread Hennessey, Mark F.
I apologize for the in box litter. Unless I "opt out" by placing "not-secure" in the subject line of an e-mail, our Tumbleweed secure transport e-mail server may intercept a message based upon arcane policies that re-direct seemingly innocuous messages, yet will allow a message like 'the root pa

RE: [U2] HP Risc->Itanium

2007-07-16 Thread Brutzman, Bill
We have been on Itanium with HP-Ux 11i v2 for perhaps one year. We migrated from HP-Ux v10, UniVerse 8.3.3. The only hurdle with the migration was checking that all of the applications would run. Amazingly, there is no need to re-compile UniBasic code. There were some issues with dictionaries...

RE: [U2] [UV] Stacker commands

2007-07-16 Thread Stevenson, Charles
@COMMAND.STACK. Yot can also use SAVE.STACK and GET.STACK commands to put them into &SAVEDLISTS& From: Jacques G. >When the .L command is done at the TCL level, the last executed > commands are shown. Anyone here know where those commands are > stored ? --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@lis

RE: [U2] [UV] Stacker commands

2007-07-16 Thread David Ward
&SAVEDLISTS& -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacques G. Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 1:35 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [UV] Stacker commands Hello, When the .L command is done at the TCL level, the last executed comma

RE: [U2] [UV] Stacker commands

2007-07-16 Thread u2
On universe you can get at the command stack with SYSTEM(33) from basic, but I don't know that they are stored anywhere accessable from other processes. (unidata saves the stack somewhere, as does D3, but some people think that is a security hole--though no worse than TANDEM). You can purposely sav

[U2] UV - Available memory exceeded [not-secure]

2007-07-16 Thread Hennessey, Mark F.
My apologies for my previous attempt. --- UV 10.0.8, Solaris 8... On Thursday and Friday night we've had our system grind to a halt with 'Available memory exceeded' messages... At first blush I would think I should have to increase max shared memory (shminfo_shmmax for Solaris), but I've

[U2] system builder question(s)

2007-07-16 Thread doug chanco
Hey all, I have a couple of system builder questions 1. are there any "trial/restricted version of system builder available for linux? 2. are there any good system builder books/turtorials/web sites available ( I know that Kevin King (aka the system builder guru) may have one out and by

RE: [U2] [UV] Stacker commands

2007-07-16 Thread Davis, Dawn
On Unix check the user's home directory. Ours are listed as .ustk_username. On Windows, they are in the c:\ibm\udversion\cmdstack directory. Dawn Janel Davis DBA II [EMAIL PROTECTED] 410-386-8058 Carroll Community College 1601 Washington Road Westminster, MD 21157 -Original Message--

Re: [U2] [UV] Stacker commands

2007-07-16 Thread karlp
Look in &SAVEDLISTS& for items beginning with && They are &&S.logname.TTY# and contain 99 lines, depending on whether the tunable is left at the default in uvconfig. HTH Karl > Hello, > > When the .L command is done at the TCL level, the last executed commands > are shown. Anyone here know wh

[U2] [UV] Stacker commands

2007-07-16 Thread Jacques G.
Hello, When the .L command is done at the TCL level, the last executed commands are shown. Anyone here know where those commands are stored ? Jacques G. Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you

RE: [U2] UV - Available memory exceeded

2007-07-16 Thread Jerry Banker
Is this some kind of virus? -Original Message- From: mark.hennessey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 12:21 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] UV - Available memory exceeded You have received an important delivery from mark.hennessey Please pick up t

RE: [U2] EDI PROGRAM

2007-07-16 Thread Tony Gravagno
Contact Dave Taylor at SysMark Information Systems - same company that provides SpoolerPlus and other products - and see their website for info. DaveT-atsign-sysmarkinfo.com HTH T Barry Rogen wrote: > Can anybody suggest a proven, top drawer EDI translator package. --- u2-users maili

[U2] UV - Available memory exceeded

2007-07-16 Thread mark . hennessey
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[U2] UV10.0.16->10.2.x; HP Risc->Itanium; hpux 11.11->11.23

2007-07-16 Thread Stevenson, Charles
Seeking advice, warnings, testimonials. We are considering moving from HP's RISC platform to their new "Itanium" hardware. This implies a unix upgrade (from HPUX 11.11 to 11.23). Our current uv10.0.16 is not certified for hpux11.23, so I must upgrade to 10.1 or 10.2. & Redback 4.2.3 to at least 4.

RE: [U2] EDI Program

2007-07-16 Thread Brutzman, Bill
I wrote a program that works with www.J-Com.com EDI. The end-user does his regular shipping screen in wIntegrate. When packing parts for the EDI customer, the program creates an ASCII text file (ASN) per the J-Com spec. After the truck picks up the shipment, we FTP the ASN to J-Com. J-Com ha

RE: [U2] RE: Unidata Printing Question

2007-07-16 Thread Jerry Banker
The Windows print driver would be used in this case. If you are sending control codes to the printer from Unidata then you will probably have to set the print driver up for RAW mode. Jerry -Original Message- From: Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:46 AM To: u

Re: [U2] EDI PROGRAM

2007-07-16 Thread Charles Barouch
Barry, [AD] Contact Camry Group (Todd Miller) and ask about PiE. Camry: (631) 963-0060 [/AD] I've worked with it at several clients and I've worked with Todd several times. -- Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Consulting (718) 762-3884x1 Barry Rogen wrote: | Can anybody suggest

[U2] EDI PROGRAM

2007-07-16 Thread Barry Rogen
To all, Can anybody suggest a proven, top drawer EDI translator package. We are currently on an antiquated solution that has more bandaids on it than a patient in an Army MASH. Forst choice would be a U2 based solution but this is nore required./ It really must be very capable and flexibl

RE: [U2] UniData 7.1 vs. MS SQL 2005 performance

2007-07-16 Thread Tony Gravagno
David Jordan wrote: > Tony > > One thing, and I may be wrong, is that MV.Net is about accessing the > database directly. This puts Multivalue in the same bucket as other > RDBMS in performance. David, mv.NET is a suite of three libraries, and there's more than one way to run a program. Specific