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Subject: RE: [U2] UD Backups - DBPAUSE for UniVerse? {Unclassified}
Ah, yes there it is in the User Reference, like you said Mark.
BUT, on 10.1 anyway,
* 'SUSPEND.FILES' is not in the Index of the User Reference, you
have to search the document to find it.
* When you do
This is one of many reasons to do all reading and writing to the
database by using subroutines built on the database.
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From: Hona, David S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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For any Backup solution that uses the Microsoft VSS Snapshot
functionality, or an Advanced Open File Manager option, would it be
safe to say that for UD applications, they should issue the DBPAUSE
command, grab a snapshot, then DBRESUME - *for each Backup
requested*, to ensure optimal
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For any Backup solution that uses the Microsoft VSS Snapshot
functionality, or an Advanced Open
snip
I am still not finding any real documentation details on
UV's SUSPEND.FILES ON/OFF.
/snip
As an aside, I suspect you are suffering from the poor organization of the
UniVerse documentation. I would expect something like this to be in a guide for
administrators, yet SUSPEND.FILE is
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Subject: RE: [U2] UD Backups - DBPAUSE for UniVerse? [not-secure]
snip
I am still not finding any real documentation details on
UV's SUSPEND.FILES ON/OFF.
/snip
As an aside, I suspect you are suffering from the poor organization of
the UniVerse documentation. I would expect
I thought DBPAUSE allowed running processes to finish but would hold new
processes . That's not much of a pause when you think that a process
could be running for hours before the system is truly paused.
Fortunately, that's not true. Only pending writes are processed, not
entire programs.
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I am still not finding any real documentation
' for the UniVerse documentation set?
Then it can be submitted to IBM?
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David
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configurations
and implementations.
Bill
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Slight correction
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Colin Alfke asked:
Along that line - would there be anything else that may be holding up
DBPAUSE?
A cause of a slow response back from DBPAUSE
SUSPEND.FILES ON/OFF
Manu
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I have followed this thread with much interest.
I have scoured the U2
:16 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] UD Backups - DBPAUSE for UniVerse?
SUSPEND.FILES ON/OFF
Manu
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Bill:
Try http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?AutomateNTBackup.
Let me know if this helps.
Bill
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Bill:
I would be interested to look over these NT scripts...
--Bill
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Colin:
As always
: [U2] UD Backups
Bill:
I would be interested to look over these NT scripts...
--Bill
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Colin
At 11:29 AM 6/26/2007, you wrote:
I've been testing NTBackup recently. There are some significant
time delays in backuping up a UD system vs a plain Windows system.
One thing to look at is the size of data prior to backup, IE the size
of the data source, not the size of the resultant backup
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Bill;
How long does the backup take on the server if you shutdown UD
first? Just
Thanks Doug, I'll look at this.
Bill
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Miller
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At 11:29 AM 6/26/2007, you wrote:
I've been testing
...I was hoping someone would have
experience with a high-speed backup product that would backup open
files for U2. Since our application has a module that uses
ASP.NET we really don't want to shut down the dbms for very long
(this is more important than backuping up open files and not
So it could be anything from poor drive setup/layout, slow controller,
lack of ram, busy server (domain controller?).
I have seen print processes run amok and create items in the temp
folder that filled the drive. Maybe that's where your extra space went.
I haven't seen anything taking up 10
many backup files it crashes the disk).
Thanks again.
Bill
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So it could be anything from
Colin Alfke asked:
Along that line - would there be anything else that may be holding up
DBPAUSE?
A cause of a slow response back from DBPAUSE is not enough disk drives
under a system. When DBPAUSE is initiated, it flushes all of the UDT disk
buffers to disk. If there is a lot of data
I've been testing NTBackup recently. There are some significant time delays in
backuping up a UD system vs a plain Windows system.
All servers run Windows 2003 Server Standard, updated several weeks ago. One
server is an IIS web server using .NET while the other
is a UniData server. There's
: [U2] UD Backups
I've been testing NTBackup recently. There are some significant time delays
in backuping up a UD system vs a plain Windows system.
All servers run Windows 2003 Server Standard, updated several weeks ago.
One server is an IIS web server using .NET while the other
is a UniData
Subject: [U2] UD Backups
I've been testing NTBackup recently. There are some significant time
delays in backuping up a UD system vs a plain Windows system.
All servers run Windows 2003 Server Standard, updated several weeks ago.
One server is an IIS web server using .NET while the other
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1. How big is the data?
2. How about (OS) copying to disk and then to a portable
hard-drive or burn
to DVD?
--Bill
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from mv.NET and DesignBais (in the case of the
development server).
Thanks,
Bill
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I admit I
Bill--
I presume that UniData invokes an NT service that could be disabled in an VB
Script.
The files could then be copied.
Check out... VB Script, Step By Step, Ed Wilson, Microsoft Press, 2007.
--Bill
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Bill--
I presume that UniData invokes an NT
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Bill;
How long does the backup take on the server if you shutdown UD first? Just
trying to rule out a problem with
Ken:
Thank you very muchntbackup, here I come. :-)
Bill
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Bill Haskett
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Ken:
Thank you very muchntbackup, here I come. :-)
Bill
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Subject: RE: [U2] [UD] backups
As an aside, what does one do when rebuilding a machine from one of these
backups?
1) reinstall windows
2
The problem with NT backup is that it will skip files that are
open. So if you have people logged in or jobs running, the files
will be skipped. I believe I have seen VOC's skipped (and maybe
other files) for no apparent reason either.
See some of the posts here.
I'm so confused. How does one go about doing a UniData (on Windows) backup?
1) Drag drop the @UDTHOME directory (but then how does one restore it)?
2) Is there some sort of save verb that I can use after I:
:SETTAPE 9 E:/Backups/UDBackups E:/Backups/UDBackups 512
Following this, can one do
Bill Haskett wrote:
I'm so confused. How does one go about doing a UniData (on
Windows) backup?
The same way you back up any other application on Windows - using whatever
windows tool you like, ideally against a quiescent database - ie log
everyone off, or do a dbpause.
1) Drag drop the
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