Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-10 Thread Jan Niklas Hasse
Anyway, instead of showing me the real names of the apps, do you have any _solid_ opinion or any critic point to my idea? Your idea is that applications are still running when i close their window? And that they will appear in an app selector? Well, the idea is not bad, but the tray does this

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-10 Thread Álvaro Medina Ballester
El 10/02/2008, a las 14:45, Jan Niklas Hasse escribió: Anyway, instead of showing me the real names of the apps, do you have any _solid_ opinion or any critic point to my idea? Your idea is that applications are still running when i close their window? And that they will appear in an app

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-10 Thread Cory K.
Please split this of to a different thread. This has gone WAY off topic. -Cory Jan Niklas Hasse wrote: Anyway, instead of showing me the real names of the apps, do you have any _solid_ opinion or any critic point to my idea? Your idea is that applications are still running when i

Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting

2008-02-10 Thread shadowh511
I agree, when i used vista, I had 40+ system tray applets, and that took a toll on my laptop. That's why I switched to ubuntu, to not have 3 rows of system tray. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

[ubuntu-art] Wallpapers?

2008-02-10 Thread Thomas L.Gjeseth
Hi there, Just a quick question for you guys, Are there any rules regarding wallpapers, do they have to be svg's, or any particular minimum resolution requirements? I prefer working in Photoshop when it comes to *artistic graphics* rather than logos etc... - Thomas L.G -- ubuntu-art mailing

[ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Dylan McCall
The problem with the Windows way is that there is a complete lack of consistency in that environment. Learning a new application is a complex task since they all behave differently. As an example, there is the question of whether it places itself in the notification area! Really, programs should

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Troy James Sobotka
Dylan McCall wrote: The notification area exists for programs to present information about notable happenings. That Rhythmbox is running is by no means a notable happening. If you want to make a difference, get involved in the specifications that matter. Most importantly -- _FILE BUGS_

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Andrew Laignel
Dylan McCall wrote: The problem with the Windows way is that there is a complete lack of consistency in that environment. Learning a new application is a complex task since they all behave differently. As an example, there is the question of whether it places itself in the notification

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Troy James Sobotka
Jan Niklas Hasse wrote: GNOME Applets aren't an alternative because they are only available for GNOME. XCFE, KDE, Windows for example use GTK+ applications, too! So please stop blaming developers that they shouldn't use the notification area without providing an alternative with the same

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Álvaro Medina Ballester
El 10/02/2008, a las 21:17, Andrew Laignel escribió: Dylan McCall wrote: The problem with the Windows way is that there is a complete lack of consistency in that environment. Learning a new application is a complex task since they all behave differently. As an example, there is the

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Jan Niklas Hasse
On Feb 10, 2008 10:14 PM, Troy James Sobotka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Niklas Hasse wrote: GNOME Applets aren't an alternative because they are only available for GNOME. XCFE, KDE, Windows for example use GTK+ applications, too! So please stop blaming developers that they shouldn't use

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Greg K Nicholson
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 13:14 -0800, Troy James Sobotka wrote: If you want small icons for your running programs, I would assume this can be accomplished through other means. It seems that it can't, since developers keep using the notification are for this purpose. If an app isn't 'notifying'

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Álvaro Medina Ballester
El 10/02/2008, a las 22:34, Jan Niklas Hasse escribió: That's exactly what i wanted to say: Completely agree. If this goes further, that apps in system tray _should not_ be removed untill that new feature is completely implented and functional. And if they shouldn't be removed, their

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Greg K Nicholson
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 11:30 -0800, Troy James Sobotka wrote: For example, a system tray icon might appear to tell the user that they have new mail, or have an incoming instant message, or something along those lines. I guess Evolution's flashing envelope means “You have a new message! Wait

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Andrew Laignel
Álvaro Medina Ballester wrote: If Ubuntu is going to lead GNU/Linux revolution, let's start thinking some things, lets make some specifications, let's design a new gui for gnome and let's help gnome's team to develop it! I'm glad to know that there are a lot of people interested in this

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Dylan McCall
That much (about desktop-neutrality) is definitely true, Jan. That's why the idea of building an application lister applet is a slow one, at best... A GNOME-centric proof of concept wouldn't hurt, but it would definitely be sensible to have a solid addition to the FreeDesktop standards somewhere.

[ubuntu-art] Some initial thoughts (Re: Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions)

2008-02-10 Thread Greg K Nicholson
It seems to me that the system-tray-like area for applications to minimise to must: 1. Use small icons 2. Allow applications to: 2.1. define their own context menu 2.2. display a more detailed interface when left-clicked (a window, an overlay or a menu) 2.2.1. remove this more detailed interface

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Dylan McCall
Mockups, eh? Well, here are a few to look at. Firstly, I have indeed been very very slowly poking at the application switcher thought as a panel applet. Not really anywhere far yet, but this discussion got me opening up the project again. I guess that's a step in the right direction... I am

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
On 10/02/2008, Dylan McCall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mockups, eh? Well, here are a few to look at. Firstly, I have indeed been very very slowly poking at the application switcher thought as a panel applet. Not really anywhere far yet, but this discussion got me opening up the project again. I

[ubuntu-art] Meta Discussion: Desktop Ideas vs Artwork Team

2008-02-10 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
I have really tried to keep this short. The Problem: I have been a bit distressed about some of the latest activity on this list. A lot of people seem to be posting ideas about new features they want implemented in the desktop. In short: I don't think this is something we can address on the

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and othe r loopy discussions ( was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Sunday 10 February 2008 23:59:34 Greg K Nicholson wrote: On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 14:15 -0800, Dylan McCall wrote: I am toying with a button-looking container with some toggle buttons within for each process. The one you see here is really just an ugly hack (and a mockup, obviously), but it

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions (was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Greg K Nicholson
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 14:15 -0800, Dylan McCall wrote: I am toying with a button-looking container with some toggle buttons within for each process. The one you see here is really just an ugly hack (and a mockup, obviously), but it shows the idea:

Re: [ubuntu-art] Meta Discussion: Desktop Ideas vs Artwork Team

2008-02-10 Thread Dylan McCall
Hehe, I think that thread just got way off topic and everyone forgot what list they were posting in. No crazy expectations from me! There do seem to be a lot of creative individuals (in terms of UI design) on this list. Hoping they keep an eye on the other ones, too... A crazy ideas project would

[ubuntu-art] Gartoon styled Ed/Ubuntu circle of friends logo.

2008-02-10 Thread Cory K.
I all. I'm working on a new set of icons for Edubuntu and I need 2 icons done. A Edubuntu and a Ubuntu one. They should be in the same style as Gartoon. http://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/1001 Can you help me out? -Cory \m/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intuitive application lister and other loopy discussions ( was Re: next meeting)

2008-02-10 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Ooh! I vote for this. vote? sorry but I think you misunderstood this whole process. No—I know this isn't a democracy. I wasn't expecting an actual vote that would count for anything; I was just succinctly expressing my support for this idea. -- Greg K Nicholson -- ubuntu-art mailing

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mockup!

2008-02-10 Thread Dylan McCall
That clear border is kind of cool! A nice touch that really makes this mockup distinct (while still reasonably possible, which is unusual). Very sharp look on the menus, too. There seems to be some unnecessary reliance on heavy compositing here. The transparent windows strike me as unnecessary,