Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Salane Ashcraft
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Salane Ashcraft wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Salane Ashcraft wrote: >>> Its just I hear stuff from people who have been here long, but what have they done? Ken him

Re: [ubuntu-art] Getting something done

2008-07-24 Thread Cory K.
Who wrote: > Whopsie, PingunZ made the GDM from my images. Sorry PingunZ! > Something someone who *actually cares* to move their theme/idea forward to they packaging stage should learn when they dig through the example of your package. :) BTW, when are you gonna update Blubuntu? :P /me runs.

Re: [ubuntu-art] Getting something done

2008-07-24 Thread Who
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Who <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Matthew Nuzum wrote: >>> For >>> example, "Who" has been very active on the list lately and he is one >>> of the people who achieved this goal a few releases ago.

Re: [ubuntu-art] Getting something done

2008-07-24 Thread Who
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matthew Nuzum wrote: >> For >> example, "Who" has been very active on the list lately and he is one >> of the people who achieved this goal a few releases ago. And he didn't >> even have PPAs available for his project! As a matte

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Cory K.
Salane Ashcraft wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Salane Ashcraft wrote: >> >>> Its just I hear stuff from people who have been here long, but what >>> have they done? Ken himself has said the art team needs to prove >>> itself to be trusted w

Re: [ubuntu-art] Getting something done

2008-07-24 Thread Cory K.
Matthew Nuzum wrote: > For > example, "Who" has been very active on the list lately and he is one > of the people who achieved this goal a few releases ago. And he didn't > even have PPAs available for his project! As a matter of fact, you can > benefit from his hard work by starting with the blueb

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Salane Ashcraft
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Salane Ashcraft wrote: >> Its just I hear stuff from people who have been here long, but what >> have they done? Ken himself has said the art team needs to prove >> itself to be trusted with anything substantial. > > Thats not re

[ubuntu-art] Getting something done

2008-07-24 Thread Matthew Nuzum
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Salane Ashcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Its just I hear stuff from people who have been here long, but what > have they done? Ken himself has said the art team needs to prove > itself to be trusted with anything substantial. In order for this team to have a su

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Cory K.
Salane Ashcraft wrote: > Its just I hear stuff from people who have been here long, but what > have they done? Ken himself has said the art team needs to prove > itself to be trusted with anything substantial. Thats not really the point of the "You haven't been here long." comment. It's that there

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Salane Ashcraft
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Ashton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Salane Ashcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> >> Yeah I have done so. I have put together a few people to work on a >> theme. Starting this weekend I want to begin in force. We will take

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Ashton
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Salane Ashcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Yeah I have done so. I have put together a few people to work on a > theme. Starting this weekend I want to begin in force. We will take in > everything from all perspectives and hopefully deliver an awesome > theme.

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Salane Ashcraft
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Who <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/07/01/%23ubuntu-meeting.txt >> > > Cool! Nice work there. Lets hope it works well :) I clearly haven't > been paying enough attention on the list! How'd you end up at CC? > > Have you spoken to Fra

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Who
> > http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/07/01/%23ubuntu-meeting.txt > Cool! Nice work there. Lets hope it works well :) I clearly haven't been paying enough attention on the list! How'd you end up at CC? Have you spoken to Frank Schoep? I think he'd be a really good person to talk to about this - as h

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Salane Ashcraft
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Ashton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Julian Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> put simply, colour should be used primarily to the ends of improving >> usability in a desktop, not merely to make it 'distinct' (an empty and >

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Ashton
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Julian Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: put simply, colour should be used primarily to the ends of improving > usability in a desktop, not merely to make it 'distinct' (an empty and > vain project when taken on its own..). the desperate and abstract > attachment to

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Salane Ashcraft
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Who <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ken is employed to direct an Art Team that has never had many >> experienced people. > > Over the years some of the most experienced FLOSS theme designers have > been on this list - what makes you think there's never been many > ex

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread michael miller
I am new to this whole mailing list concept so if I break any rules of etiquette, feel free to let me know. I have only included the part of the message that I plan to respond to. I personally agree. Ubuntu is stable and it works, and its time to make it look pretty. The current human theme doesn'

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Who
> Ken is employed to direct an Art Team that has never had many > experienced people. Over the years some of the most experienced FLOSS theme designers have been on this list - what makes you think there's never been many experienced people? I certainly do not include myself in this category, but

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Salane Ashcraft
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Who <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I wish Mark would just make a forum where one could post one theme/idea >> per thread and he would say whether he liked it or not.Right now he >> is being to vague. > > He's an enormously busy man! And that would still leave a gazi

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Who
> I wish Mark would just make a forum where one could post one theme/idea > per thread and he would say whether he liked it or not.Right now he > is being to vague. He's an enormously busy man! And that would still leave a gazillion similar brown themes that mark 'liked' that people were working o

Re: [ubuntu-art] Public/official aims of this team

2008-07-24 Thread Who
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Bharat Varma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Who <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Julian Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > ..on or around Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 09:06:57AM -0400 Salane Ashcraft

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Isaiah Heyer
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 09:59 -0400, Cory K. wrote: > Salane Ashcraft wrote: > > Ok well I posted them a while back, about a month ago. I am working on > > creating a small team, and hopefully I can get some things done. > > As do I. > > > i > > almost think that we need to wait a bit for Icons - a

Re: [ubuntu-art] Public/official aims of this team

2008-07-24 Thread Bharat Varma
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Who <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Julian Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > ..on or around Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 09:06:57AM -0400 Salane Ashcraft > wrote: > > > >> [..] but what > >> really is needed are some guidelines and one t

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Julian Oliver
..on or around Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 09:06:57AM -0400 Salane Ashcraft wrote: > [..] but what > really is needed are some guidelines and one theme that everyone works > on at the same time. i sincerely doubt that will ever happen in this open design and development context. efforts are better spen

[ubuntu-art] Public/official aims of this team

2008-07-24 Thread Who
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Julian Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ..on or around Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 09:06:57AM -0400 Salane Ashcraft wrote: > >> [..] but what >> really is needed are some guidelines and one theme that everyone works >> on at the same time. > > i sincerely doubt that wil

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Julian Oliver
..on or around Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 04:57:39PM +0200 Kim Kahns wrote: > Am 24.07.2008 15:48:28 schrieb(en) Salane Ashcraft: > > Ok well I posted them a while back, about a month ago. I am working > > on > > creating a small team, and hopefully I can get some things done. i > > almost think that w

Re: [ubuntu-art] GTK-theme proposal

2008-07-24 Thread AA Boy
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Kim Kahns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am 23.07.2008 14:41:45 schrieb(en) Salane Ashcraft: > > Another question- anyway you can get the metacity to blend in with > > the > > GTK? Sort of like OS X? > > I will make a metacity port of the emerald theme (of course wit

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Cory K.
Salane Ashcraft wrote: > I just received an email from > another Gtk programmer who I recruited to help out. Get them on the ML. I *really* hope they work out. I know with Studio I've gone through about 20 people I "recruited". It always comes down to me and maybe 1 or 2 other cool people around o

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Salane Ashcraft
Art Team- So I think we see the need for guidelines, restrictions, and the like. Mark has not given the sort of input Cory noted we need to be successful. We have the wiki page that has guidelines, but it is rather informal. We need something like this: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Use

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Duncan Austin
2008/7/24 Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Duncan Austin wrote: > > http://readitsideways.com/Screenshot.png > > http://readitsideways.com/Screenshot-1.png > > http://readitsideways.com/Screenshot-2.png > > These in no way say/feel "Ubuntu". It's a couple of cobbled together > pieces of things from

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Who
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Matthew Nuzum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Salane Ashcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> We do indeed need to step it up! But at least we have made more >> progress here latley! > > I'd love to see a .deb file I can install to get th

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Salane Ashcraft
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Kim Kahns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am 24.07.2008 15:48:28 schrieb(en) Salane Ashcraft: >> Ok well I posted them a while back, about a month ago. I am working >> on >> creating a small team, and hopefully I can get some things done. i >> almost think that we need

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Ken Vermette
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 6:48 AM, Salane Ashcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Salane Ashcraft wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> Salane Ashcraft wrote: > >>> > I jus

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Daniel Moore
Like Mac but cooler, was the general idea, right? At least that's the story that made it to /. I'm sure Steve wouldn't be seen dead in a brown or orange skivy :-P (tongue in cheek). On 24/07/2008, at 10:52 PM, Cory K. wrote: > Salane Ashcraft wrote: >> I just received an email from >> another

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Kim Kahns
Am 24.07.2008 15:48:28 schrieb(en) Salane Ashcraft: > Ok well I posted them a while back, about a month ago. I am working > on > creating a small team, and hopefully I can get some things done. i > almost think that we need to wait a bit for Icons - as what I have > been working on looks great wit

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Duncan Austin
2008/7/24 Duncan Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> >> Grrr... the gtk doesnt have to be brown or orange. It isnt currently. >> Why cant it be white with orange/brown tooltips and highlights? That >> with some orange/brown icons would be amazing, clean, and would be >> Ubuntu, way more so than the c

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Cory K.
Salane Ashcraft wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Salane Ashcraft wrote: >> >>> I just received an email from >>> another Gtk programmer who I recruited to help out. >>> >> Get them on the ML. I *really* hope they work out. I know with

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Cory K.
Salane Ashcraft wrote: > Ok well I posted them a while back, about a month ago. I am working on > creating a small team, and hopefully I can get some things done. As do I. > i > almost think that we need to wait a bit for Icons - as what I have > been working on looks great with the current icons

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Salane Ashcraft
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Julian Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ..on or around Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 09:06:57AM -0400 Salane Ashcraft wrote: > >> [..] but what >> really is needed are some guidelines and one theme that everyone works >> on at the same time. > > i sincerely doubt that wil

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Salane Ashcraft
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Salane Ashcraft wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Salane Ashcraft wrote: >>> I just received an email from another Gtk programmer who I recruited to help out. >>>

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Salane Ashcraft
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Daniel Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Like Mac but cooler, was the general idea, right? At least that's the > story that made it to /. > I'm sure Steve wouldn't be seen dead in a brown or orange skivy :-P > (tongue in cheek). > > On 24/07/2008, at 10:52 PM, Cory

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Salane Ashcraft
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Salane Ashcraft wrote: >> I just received an email from >> another Gtk programmer who I recruited to help out. > > Get them on the ML. I *really* hope they work out. I know with Studio > I've gone through about 20 people I "recru

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Salane Ashcraft
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Duncan Austin wrote: >> http://readitsideways.com/Screenshot.png >> http://readitsideways.com/Screenshot-1.png >> http://readitsideways.com/Screenshot-2.png > > These in no way say/feel "Ubuntu". It's a couple of cobbled together

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Cory K.
Duncan Austin wrote: > http://readitsideways.com/Screenshot.png > http://readitsideways.com/Screenshot-1.png > http://readitsideways.com/Screenshot-2.png These in no way say/feel "Ubuntu". It's a couple of cobbled together pieces of things from GNOME-Look. We need something original. -Cory. \m/

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Duncan Austin
> > > > also see: > http://readitsideways.com/Screenshot.png > http://readitsideways.com/Screenshot-1.png > http://readitsideways.com/Screenshot-2.png > > for some variati

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Duncan Austin
2008/7/24 Duncan Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > 2008/7/23 Salane Ashcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Read this article everyone. It is interesting. >> http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=9419 >> We do indeed need to step it up! But at least we have made more >> progress here latley! >> >> > I absolutely

Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

2008-07-24 Thread Duncan Austin
2008/7/23 Salane Ashcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Read this article everyone. It is interesting. > http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=9419 > We do indeed need to step it up! But at least we have made more > progress here latley! > > I absolutely agree with the article, and Mark. A few weeks ago I posed