well, i was hoping that this problem of bad font rendering inside OOo
would be fixed with feisty (which has OOo2.1), i've just upgraded and...
it's much much worse than in edgy! i attach a screenshot. Look at the
r in the screenshot. all of them have some sort of gray vertical bar
on the right.
removing need info, all questions asked have been answered as far as i
can see.
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I already made a request for a backport to Edgy, but unfortunately, it's been
refused:
https://launchpad.net/bugs/78981
*Please* can we have a bugfix for this - it really doesn't give a very
good impression of Ubuntu if such things aren't fixed. Speaking
personally, I installed Edgy for 3
if so a backport do Edgy would be really appreciated ;^)
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This is fixed for me in Feisty... OO 2.1. But, I'm only using (full)
hinting... no smoothing / anti-aliasing in the Feisty version. Sure
looks like it's using the full byte code interpreter in libfreetype
properly again.
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I've tried to enable also the ooo59127.vcl.honourcairofont.diff patch
(included in the debian tree and easy to find in google), but nothing
changes again... No real subpixel rendering :/
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I've tried to build the debian experimental version in my Ubuntu edgy and I got
it...
Results, and (maybe) packages here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=327863
Btw as you can see on the shot
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/trevi55/337992843/) there is no real
subpixel rendering :(
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OpenOffice.org 2.1 has now been formally released. I upgraded this
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want to do the same, please read to the end of this message before
starting work, or you'll lose the icons in your K menu (if you use KDE)
and, I imagine, the
The issue with the bytecode-interpreter is a bit more complex, at least
as far I can see. I could get it turned on only with a broken
libfreetype I compiled from source, turning FT_LOAD_FORCE_AUTOHINT-Macro
off (this means: breaking it).
This macro is used in upstream and patched sources,
Can't really tell why this has been marked as fixed for Debian. Today I
did a netinstall of Etch/amd64 and applied the same visual settings to
Debian's OOo like before (vanilla OOo-32 on Ubuntu Edgy-64), resulting
in the attached screenshot.
Just plain damn ugly font rendering.
Should definetly
The bug is only fixed for openoffice.org 2.1, which is in experimental.
I hope that somebody will backport the fix for openoffice.org 2.0.4 or
edgy.
openoffice.org (2.1-1) experimental; urgency=low
* OpenOffice.org 2.1 final
* ooo-build:
- update
+ add patch from Fedora to honour
for what I've seen this bug is definitely worse for people who don't use
antialiasing (like me), it seems that antialiasing smooth it someway
out...
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The fontconfig patch from Fedora still doesn't fix the problem. I tried
that. It seems that somehow, even with the bytecode interpreter turned
on in libfreetype6 (as it is in Debian/Ubuntu), OO doesn't use it. I
had looked at this in some depth but the water went over my head and I
gave up the
Oh, and I tried taking the latest 2.0.4-0ubuntu4, noticed it has a patch
that's a subset of the Fedora hinting patch... Didn't fix the problem
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Since none of the proposed workarounds here seem to work for me, I went
a somewhat different path. This is for Kubuntu Edgy x86-64 (amd64) and
involves some serious package-juggling, but is otherwise quite simple.
First, let's get rid of Ubuntu's OOo with the apt-frontend of your
choice (I am an
Btw, I forgot to mention, vanilla OOo installs to /opt/.
On 32 Bit systems (i386, x86, ...), installation should be the same like
presented above, but without the need for the ia32-libs, and I can't
tell you how OOo's UI will look like.
Attached is a screenshot from my OOo installed like
Hi there,
The whole problem with the font-rendering in OO.o2 only seems to be
related to the new version of Freetype2. I'm using StarOffice8 PP4 under
Edgy and it shows exactly the same problems as the Ubuntu version of
OO.o2. Even the new version (2.1) of OO.o2 shows the same problem.
The
Tested the OOo on the Feisty Fawn Herd 1 Live CD - still the same fuzzy
fonts.
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debbug 385798 indicates a fix for debian etch. Is anyone planning to
patch this into edgy, or do we have to wait for 7.04 for a fix?
regards,
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Well, same problem here. Fonts are fine in all other apps except OO.
They looked really terrible in OO after first upgrading from dapper to
edgy.
After reading all the comments here, I grabbed libfreetype6 from dapper
(2.1.10-1ubuntu2.2), unpacked it (dpkg -x ...), copied
libfreetype6.so.6.3.8
Well, same problem here. Fonts are fine in all other apps except OO.
They looked really terrible in OO after first upgrading from dapper to
edgy.
After reading all the comments here, I grabbed libfreetype6 from dapper
(2.1.10-1ubuntu2.2), unpacked it (dpkg -x ...), copied
libfreetype6.so.6.3.8
Alright, I have found a nice workaround...
1. recursively copy Dapper's /usr/lib/share/openoffice to
/usr/local/openoffice.dapper
2. copy Dapper's libfreetype.so.6.3.8 to /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.6.3.8
3. export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.6.3.8
4. start OO:
Matthias: neither the 2.0.4-2ubuntu0.2 nor the 2.0.4-2ubuntu0.3 debs fix
my font issues... is anybody working on a solution?
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To Xavier:
The new libfreetype does not enhance font rendering in a whole (the
fonts still are blurry), but fixes some issues related to broken
charakters when using subpixel rendering and autohinter (this does not
only affect OOo). That means e.g. that 'ö' has now two dots, the 'A' or
'x' is not
I realized this bug only after upgrading...:-(
On my OOo I don't have too much problems but one is enough. All my books
are written with Times New Roman, and the new OOo's font is lightly
different, so that all the book are now very badly formatted... It is a
matter of few millimeters, but in a
After playing around with some more settings, I tried to compile a new
libfreetype using cvs version. After compilation I found out, that at
least the issues concerning spacing and breakage of some characters with
lcd-sub-pixel rendering enabled vanished.
OOo still uses only autohinter, but
but is it actually using subpixel rendering now, and not just basic
grayscale antialiasing like with ubuntu libfreetype? Do you have a
screenshot?
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Just another screenshot showing rendering - Abiword vs. Word vs. OO.o.
IMO, this is a rather serious issue/regression. Good luck.
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I'm nearly sure he just applied his patch from there:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi/normal_hinting.patch?bug=385798;msg=69;att=1
Though, a confirmation is required.
Yes, I applied my own patch ;)
AFAICS the patch doesn't apply anymore; a similiar patch has been
applied.
First,
That's probably the difference of autohinting
vs native hinting. Could you try
sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config,
use autohinting, and compare again.
Unfortunately it makes no difference.
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here are two more screenshots...
I use ms truetype fonts. the quality apparently gets worse when I use
autohinting. so, why should I use autohinting instead of native?
the quality of OO is bad in both cases...
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hanswurst schrieb:
here are two more screenshots...
I use ms truetype fonts. the quality apparently gets worse when I use
autohinting. so, why should I use autohinting instead of native?
the quality of OO is bad in both cases...
the two screenshots are not OOo, but KDE. Jonathan, I do
On debian, the workaround of enabling subpixel rendering in ~/.fonts.conf
didn't work, maybe because it doesn't apply the patches from fedora cvs pasted
above. (It's maybe better that way, because it didn't make any sense).
As Bernd Schubert said in the bug report, light hinting (=slow=medium)
AFAIK, the fedora-patches (which should provide fontconfig-support)
aren't applied in ubuntu. Simply hardcoding other settings wouldn't fix
the issue. Only full fontconfig-support would be a solution for every
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Gert Kulyk schrieb:
AFAIK, the fedora-patches (which should provide fontconfig-support)
aren't applied in ubuntu.
Gert, please don't speculate; the patches are applied.
apt-get source openoffice.org
dpkg-source -x openoffice.org_*dsc
cd openoffice.org-2.0.4
apt-get install build-dep
Xavier schrieb:
As Bernd Schubert said in the bug report, light hinting (=slow=medium) is
hardcoded in openoffice.
Hardcoding normal hinting (=full) works fine.
I installed his packages from there:
http://www.pci.uni-heidelberg.de/tc/usr/bernd/downloads/openoffice/
I don't see the
Matthias Klose schrieb:
AFAIK, the fedora-patches (which should provide
fontconfig-support) aren't applied in ubuntu.
Gert, please don't speculate; the patches are applied.
I did not mean the fontconfig-stuff that is fixing issue 54603 (these
patches are applied, I know), I meant the
To Matthias:
The latest source does indeed apply the patches - sorry for the traffic.
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I was also surprised when I learned these patches were applied.
They apparently don't work as expected.
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Matthias: yes, you are right - my recent screenshots show KDE's
kcontrol. Though, I wanted to show that the Xavier's suggestio ... try
sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config, use autohinting, and compare
again... causes the fonts to get unacceptable for KDE. I forgot to
mention - switching from
I wonder if it might be a configuration problem. Other (gtk1/2) apps
such as firefox, audacity, xmms, Blender look fine. After trying out a
lot of edgy apps, only ardour and OO show crappy fonts. Btw, I am using
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To be honest, because this is so very broken, I honestly think this
_should_ delay Edgy's release.
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I think I found a workaround (thus not a solution) for GNOME/OOO:
System - Preferences - Font - Subpixel Smoothing (LCDs)
or
... - Font - Details
Smoothing: Subpixel (LCDs)
Hinting: Full
Subpixel Order: RGB
(I'm using 98dpi at the moment).
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Pascal: your workaround does not solve the font problem on my machine.
I wonder why I see a bunch of error messages when I start oowriter:
(process:23067): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: gtype.c:2240: initialization
assertion failed, use IA__g_type_init() prior to this function
(process:23067):
Pascal wrote:
I think I found a workaround (thus not a solution) for GNOME/OOO:
I also thought that exactly this font configuration solved the problem, but if
you load a text inside OOo, you'll notice that the font spacing will get worse
and letters will begin to look deformed.
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please check the packages at
deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/ooo-2.0.4-2ubuntu0.2 ./
if those don't show any change, please check
deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/ooo-2.0.4-2ubuntu0.3 ./
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ooo-2.0.4-2ubuntu0.3 has the same blurry fonts, ooo-2.0.4-2ubuntu0.2 I
have to test yet.
Matthias, may I also note that the screenshot at
http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/oobullets.png shows also autohinted
blurrier fonts; maybe we have different understandings of nice looking
fonts. I only have
And with ooo-2.0.4-2ubuntu0.2 the fonts still have the same appearance.
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I saw this patch: ooo-build/patches/test/vcl-font-hinting.diff
If I understand correctly, it isn't applied when it's in the test directory.
Anyway, I googled for it and found this:
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.ximian.openoffice/1264
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I don't see a difference in these; is anti-aliasing turned off by
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comment 9:
Unfortunately not for me (although it seems to look better) -
screenshot attached. Here you can see the most obious thing, that menu
fonts still does not fit in gnome-environment.
does this change for you when using subpixel-rendering (in the advanced
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I don't see a difference in these; is anti-aliasing turned off by
default for KDE?
No it isn't, but does it matter?
And you really don't see the difference? It's the difference between ugly and
beautiful fonts.
Though, you're right, this screenshot is different than the others. First,
there is
comment 23:
does this change for you when using subpixel-rendering (in the
advanced gnome font settings)
No, it does not. You still did not tell if you applied Bernd Schuberts
patch, or not. If so, please revert it, it is worse for me than it was.
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I tried the edgy eft daily live cd from today 20061024 on my desktop
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both the problem persists.
Screenshot attached: 300% zoom, first menu is OpenOffice.org, second
menu is gedit.
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When I use subpixel smoothing and full hinting, the menu fonts get
better, but text inside renders very strange.
In the screenshot, you see that the word text in OOo renders very bad
- parts of the letter t are not shown and e and x are positioned
too far away. (I changed the fonts in gedit to
That's probably the difference of autohinting vs native hinting. Could
you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config, use autohinting, and
compare again.
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2006/10/24, Oskar Rubinstein [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
When I use subpixel smoothing and full hinting, the menu fonts get
better, but text inside renders very strange.
In the screenshot, you see that the word text in OOo renders very bad
- parts of the letter t are not shown and e and x are
I also upgraded my kubuntu box from dapper to edgy a few days ago. I am
using true type fonts for QT, GTK1, GTK2 apps - all worked fine with
dapper. Though, after the upgrade, all fonts in openoffice (menu+text)
look terrible.
see attached screenshot showing the openoffice fonts compared to
- Using verdana fonts from msttcorefonts
- Font Rendering is set to Monochrome
- Smoothing set to none
- Hinting set to Full
- OpenOffice ToolsOptionsView I tick the Use system font for user interface
and uncheck Screen font antialiasing.
Please note the above settings I have always used in
Yep, still looks like crap...
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I want to ask if this bug will be fixed before Edgy will be released.
It is a clear regression from Dapper Drake if OpenOffice.org is shipped
with fuzzy fonts in the menu and inside as the default configuration.
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I'm suffering from this issue too...
Firefox/Epiphany might also be affected:
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/66079
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Confirmed bug. Please see the horrible font problem in the
preference/options window attachment provided. Some letters are not even
shown, others have strange bendings (r looks line n with shadow).
** Attachment added: ooo screenshot showing font problem
gedit with the same text without font problem for comparison.
** Attachment added: gedit screenshot showing lack of font problem
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That's a totally different bug.
This one may be closer :
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/62537
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Thank you Xavier.
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just to be safe, since I just got caught myself, the .fonts.conf file is
a xml file, so its contents won't be displayed directly in firefox. just
save the file, or view the source.
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Unfortunately not for me (although it seems to look better) - screenshot
attached. Here you can see the most obious thing, that menu fonts still
does not fit in gnome-environment.
** Attachment added: Screenshot of ooo-2.0.4~rc3 and gedit
Additionally, the workaround using libfreetype from dapper now does not
work as expected. Fonts are still better with it, but are a bit bolder
than in other apps (I guess medium instead of strong hinting, which is
default on my machine). In the changelog is no specific hint what
exactly was
Please check the test build announced on ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-users.
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Looks good for me :)
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Status: Unknown = Confirmed
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I found these patches in Fedora-CVS, which are dealing with two
upstream-issues which are related to this bug (I've chosen Fedora ones,
because the patches attached to the issues may be out of date):
Patch to honor cairo-font-settings: (issue 59127 upstream)
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** Also affects: openoffice.org (Debian) via
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=385798
Importance: Unknown
Status: Unknown
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After some investigation and reading Comments on Debian-Bug-Report
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=385798 it seems like
openoffice simply is always using freetype-autohinter instead of
respecting fontconfig-settings.
Turning on autohinter in ~/.fonts.conf causes, that GNOME-Apps
Bug still there in 2.0.4~rc2. I'm no longer sure, if the above patch
would fix the issue, since at least parts of it (I haven'n compared it
line by line) are included in the version upstream.
A temporary workaround would be, to copy the libfreetype from the
dapper-package as libfreetype.so.6 into
Confirmed here; fonts do look absolutely terrible in Edgy's OOo.
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Here's a screenshot of what Openoffice looks like on my Edgy box. Note
the blurriness of menu items.
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Just for comparison, here's what gedit looks like
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