Re: Making example-content more visible

2006-02-21 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 21, 2006, at 9:43 AM, Daniel Holbach wrote: ... Apart from making the content fresher, more exciting and more fun, one problem remains: making example content more visible. At the moment it's installed into /usr/share/example-content - a plac

Re: example-content - is it really a solution?

2006-02-21 Thread Lionel Dricot (aka Ploum)
This is at least useful on a Live CD.When I demonstrate Ubuntu with a live CD, I've nothing to do and I must always say : "If you had a picture, you could edit it with the gimp, there. If you had a word document, you could..." Some videos, sounds and pictures samples could turn a boring demonstrati

Re: Windows FOSS on the Live CD -- the OOo2 question

2006-02-21 Thread Armand CORBEAUX
To change its practices requires an effort. To propose softwares for Windows on CD is a means of reassuring people. When you listen people around you, you realize that they don't know what is free softwares, even less than they can have a free office suite, and even less than any software does not

Re: Windows FOSS on the Live CD -- the OOo2 question

2006-02-21 Thread Manu Cornet
Hi ! > I think 35MB is a bit too much for something which has a fairly small > audience in the end (besides, TheOpenCD needs some selling points too ;) ). Considering the great pieces of software we could make available the Ubuntu part in those 35M, I tend to agree. What about opening a small

example-content - is it really a solution?

2006-02-21 Thread Armand CORBEAUX
Sometimes I don't understand choices that are done... By putting examples files in Ubuntu, will it really help people? If you look at how people apprehend the software, you note that they don't read documentation. If you look at how people consider the examples files on others OS, you note that

Re: Windows FOSS on the Live CD -- the OOo2 question

2006-02-21 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Jerome Gotangco wrote: This selection is pretty good actually, although I would wonder the use of MMDE for casual computer users. Yes, I agree that it's probably not mainstream enough. It's just me who is a Moin-zealot :) That was more a hypothetical list to show some file sizes. Wesnoth is

Re: Windows FOSS on the Live CD -- the OOo2 question

2006-02-21 Thread Jerome Gotangco
This selection is pretty good actually, although I would wonder the use of MMDE for casual computer users. Wesnoth is pretty good too (included in the OpenCD) but that's around 35MB for the setup file. Firefox 4.7mb Gaim 6.6mb Thunderbird 6.1mb Abiword 5.0mb Gimp 15mb MoinMoin Desktop 3.2mb 7-zip

Re: More colorful help browser

2006-02-21 Thread Matthew East
On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 17:53 +, Matthew East wrote: > Matthew East <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Sebastien Bacher ...> writes: > > > > Thanks for your work on that. The idea seems to be good and the > > > screenshots are nice. Do you already have some patch to play with? > > I've pu

Re: Selecting music for example-content

2006-02-21 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Sandis Neilands wrote: Hello Henrik! On 2/19/06, Henrik Nilsen Omma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Another problem with that list is that it contains almost exclusively classical music, and we might want a bit more variety. I would think a few short pieces, each under a meg, from 3-4 different g

Re: Windows FOSS on the Live CD -- the OOo2 question

2006-02-21 Thread Santiago Roza
On 2/21/06, Henrik Nilsen Omma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, remember that the CD isn't just for you and I who already know and > use Ubuntu. It's for a wider audience ... i know that, but the problem is that we're overlapping objectives here. the ubuntu livecd cannot have the same objetiv

Re: Windows FOSS on the Live CD -- the OOo2 question

2006-02-21 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Santiago Roza wrote: imho the win32 foss is a bad idea per se: we shouldn't take 100 mb for something that's not needed for ubuntu, especially when you're under heavy size constraints. Well, remember that the CD isn't just for you and I who already know and use Ubuntu. It's for a wider audien

Re: Windows FOSS on the Live CD -- the OOo2 question

2006-02-21 Thread Santiago Roza
imho the win32 foss is a bad idea per se: we shouldn't take 100 mb for something that's not needed for ubuntu, especially when you're under heavy size constraints. given that, if the choice still is to blundle win32 software, the non-ooo2 option sounds like the most reasonable. no one will ever i

Re: Selecting music for example-content

2006-02-21 Thread Sandis Neilands
Hello Henrik! On 2/19/06, Henrik Nilsen Omma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another problem with that list is that it contains almost exclusively > classical music, and we might want a bit more variety. I would think a > few short pieces, each under a meg, from 3-4 different genres would be > good.

Windows FOSS on the Live CD -- the OOo2 question

2006-02-21 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
I'd like to poll people's views on the content of the Windows FOSS on the Live CD. In the past we have adjusted the Win-FOSS to fit the available space quite close to the end of the process, but it might be worth taking a longer view now. How do people use it? Is it something that end user f

Re: Selecting music for example-content

2006-02-21 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Sandis Neilands wrote: Right! And what's the point of including firefox or thunderbird on the cd which are only usable, if one have internet connection? I mean we could include bookmarks to their download's page or something. On windows the outdated firefox and thunderbird will try to upgrade the

I need the steps to create LiveCD

2006-02-21 Thread Chandan M. C.
Hai All , I want to create a Live cd based on Debian I have seen teh Ubutnu Live CD ..Its good ..Can I get what steps I can follow to create a Live CD with Debian root file system ... Regards Chandan -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.

Re: Selecting music for example-content

2006-02-21 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Sandis Neilands wrote: Hi Sandis! Thanks for that thorough test of the music. You obviously have better musical sense than me (not a difficult thing in in itself though) :) OK, if space on CD wasn't a problem, then 3 - 4 different genres would be perfectly fine. Unfortunately ubuntu ships with

Re: Selecting music for example-content

2006-02-21 Thread Sandis Neilands
Hello again! On 2/21/06, Henrik Nilsen Omma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting. I should do a separate post to the desktop and devel lists > about the Windows-FOSS. OpenOffice is the big space hog there. Right! And what's the point of including firefox or thunderbird on the cd which are on

Re: Making example-content more visible

2006-02-21 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Wouter Stomp wrote: How about instead of deploying a link, just copying it to the users home directory? Have some directories like documents, photos, music in the users home folder each with two or three example files. That is how Windows does it, but the problem is duplication of data. With sou

Re: Making example-content more visible

2006-02-21 Thread Daniel Holbach
Hello, Am Dienstag, den 21.02.2006, 00:14 +0200 schrieb Aigars Mahinovs: > If the content is placed in /usr/share/.../ and then a bookmark is > added in the fileselector people will be able to erase that entry from > their config just like any other bookmark, but the content will still > be there

Re: Making example-content more visible

2006-02-21 Thread Daniel Holbach
Hello Sam, Am Montag, den 20.02.2006, 21:32 + schrieb Sam Tygier: > could some of them be put in the create new document context menu in gnome? > at the moment this is empty, but it could be quite useful. this is user configuration too - you can add stuff to ~/Templates. The problem would re