Re: R: [Fwd: [Ayatana] Empathy is not in line with the much discussed guidelines]

2009-07-16 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il 16/07/2009 16:59, Matthew Paul Thomas ha scritto: > Agreed. Showing IMs in the messaging menu is necessary, but not sufficient. Just let me say again that the new chat window should be minimised and flashing, otherwise it may reveal public information in a bad moment. -- ubuntu-desktop maili

Re: R: [Fwd: [Ayatana] Empathy is not in line with the much discussed guidelines]

2009-07-16 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote on 14/07/09 15:35: >... > To begin with, I was very happy with the indicator applet. But now > I've tested it with a few more users, and most doesn't notice it. That doesn't surprise me at all. (After all, part of the reason

Re: R: [Fwd: [Ayatana] Empathy is not in line with the much discussed guidelines]

2009-07-14 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
2009/7/3 Mark Shuttleworth : > > It is easy and fast to detect the messaging indicator (by design, so that > apps can check and behave accordingly). I agree that upstream will want to > think carefully about how to behave when the indicator isn't there, and we > should support them in that, but fo

Re: R: [Fwd: [Ayatana] Empathy is not in line with the much discussed guidelines]

2009-07-14 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > 1) New messages cause empathy th flash the notification area. _This is > forbidden_, I do not know if it's written black-on-white somewhere but > we all know that we shouldn't flash the notification area, should the > world be falling. Update notifier can not do that. Why

Re: R: [Fwd: [Ayatana] Empathy is not in line with the much discussed guidelines]

2009-07-14 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > Yes, should be optional also IMHO. But also from comments elsewhere it > seems the development is concentrated on the existence of the indicator > applet. > > A sane default behaviour should be chosen also when the applet is not > there. In particular if "not flashing" is

Re: R: [Fwd: [Ayatana] Empathy is not in line with the much discussed guidelines]

2009-07-01 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > On mar, 2009-06-30 at 12:45 -0500, Evan R. Murphy wrote: >> >> XChat flashes the notification area, though it can be disabled. Should >> this be addressed as well, or is it a nonissue because XChat isn't a >> candidate for default install? > > Of course I am not the one w

Re: R: [Fwd: [Ayatana] Empathy is not in line with the much discussed guidelines]

2009-07-01 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
On mer, 2009-07-01 at 03:22 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > > 1) New messages cause empathy th flash the notification area. _This is > > forbidden_, I do not know if it's written black-on-white somewhere but > > we all know that we shouldn't flash the notification area, should the > > world be

Re: R: [Fwd: [Ayatana] Empathy is not in line with the much discussed guidelines]

2009-06-30 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
On mar, 2009-06-30 at 21:19 +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > On mar., 2009-06-30 at 20:11 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > > can be added to an eventual bug report to xchat. > > Speaking about bug reports did you open some about your issues, could > you give the numbers there? > > Sebastien Bache

Re: R: [Fwd: [Ayatana] Empathy is not in line with the much discussed guidelines]

2009-06-30 Thread Sebastien Bacher
On mar., 2009-06-30 at 20:11 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > can be added to an eventual bug report to xchat. Speaking about bug reports did you open some about your issues, could you give the numbers there? Sebastien Bacher -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https

Re: R: [Fwd: [Ayatana] Empathy is not in line with the much discussed guidelines]

2009-06-30 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
On mar, 2009-06-30 at 12:45 -0500, Evan R. Murphy wrote: > > > XChat flashes the notification area, though it can be disabled. Should > this be addressed as well, or is it a nonissue because XChat isn't a > candidate for default install? > > Of course I am not the one who can answer this, but

Re: R: [Fwd: [Ayatana] Empathy is not in line with the much discussed guidelines]

2009-06-30 Thread Evan R. Murphy
2009/6/30 Vincenzo Ciancia : > [...] > 1) New messages cause empathy th flash the notification area. _This is > forbidden_, I do not know if it's written black-on-white somewhere but > we all know that we shouldn't flash the notification area, should the > world be falling. Update notifier can not

Re: R: [Fwd: [Ayatana] Empathy is not in line with the much discussed guidelines]

2009-06-30 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
On gio, 2009-06-25 at 01:03 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > Oops - sorry! Vincenzo (Ciancia) would you like to follow up to the > ubuntu-desktop list? > > Vincenzo Ciaglia wrote: > > Hi mark. Here is vincenzo CIAGLIA, not Ciancia. > > > > Have a nice day, > > vincenzo > > > > > > ___