Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Iain Lane wrote: > Cool. Glad to see that community input is listened to. What does this mean > for the store metaphor throughout the rest of the application? I don't think there is a strong metaphor running through the application. That would be inconsistent wit

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

Greetings, On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 10:45:55AM +0100, Matthew East wrote: On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Iain Lane wrote: Cool. Glad to see that community input is listened to. What does this mean for the store metaphor throughout the rest of the application? I don't think there is a stron

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

Just to report progress on this discussion - sabdfl has decided to adopt the name "Software Center". The comments on this thread were very helpful, as were the forum [1] and brainstorm [2] discussions/votes which showed pretty clear opinions among the community. If interested you can track the pr

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

Hi, On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 09:41:47AM +0100, Matthew East wrote: Just to report progress on this discussion - sabdfl has decided to adopt the name "Software Center". The comments on this thread were very helpful, as were the forum [1] and brainstorm [2] discussions/votes which showed pretty cl

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 04:14:44PM +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: >> It would be cool if Debian and Ubuntu packagers could work together to >> address this in the Packages.gz format. > > I think this is unlikely to wind up in the Packages file in Debian over > concerns a

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 04:14:44PM +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > It would be cool if Debian and Ubuntu packagers could work together to > address this in the Packages.gz format. I think this is unlikely to wind up in the Packages file in Debian over concerns about increasing the size of this

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 10:27:34AM -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote: > > I really think that Libraries and Open Markets are great descriptors for > > what is trying to be accomplished here... > Can't wait until someone suggests "Software Pantry" ;-) "The Widget Larder" "The U-Pick Bit Farm" -- St

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

2009/9/1 Siegfried Gevatter : > I have to add my voice in that I strongly dislike the name containing > "Store", for the already echoed reasons. "Software Center" or even > "Add/Remove..." are much better names, IMHO. > I too am not comfortable with "Software Center", partly because it will in all

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

Obviously Store is not very popular, nor Center. So what is it that we are trying to accomplish with the title of this piece of Ubuntu? Will it be unique and solely on Ubuntu? Or will this be installable on other distros and therefore we want to keep the word "Ubuntu" out of the title? Libs are

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

Bryce, So sorry, and yes, English is my first language :) I definitely agree Bazaar could be confused with "bzr,"...But it is a word that seems to align well with Ubuntu and the goals, etc...maybe we just need a solid synonym for a Bazaar... It seems like we want to express these ideas in the nam

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 01:30:49PM -0300, Carlos Ribeiro wrote: > Also, people from IT would have no problem recognizing "store" > as a place to store things. We talk about storage, use use variables > to store values. So it's pretty clear (at least to me). I have to disagree with this claim. Eve

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dylan McCall wrote on 01/09/09 18:15: >... > I'm a bit concerned about using price to distinguish things here. The > "price: free" thing is flawed, because it furthers the misconception > that free software is only free in price, when in fact being fre

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If anyone's interested in the original subject of this thread: The Ubuntu Software Store 0.3.0 is now in Karmic. Please try it out and report bugs. ajmctaggart wrote on 01/09/09 16:42: > > O

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

Le mardi 01 septembre 2009 à 10:15 -0700, Dylan McCall a écrit : > I'm a bit concerned about using price to distinguish things here. The > "price: free" thing is flawed, because it furthers the misconception > that free software is only free in price, when in fact being free in > price is quite ir

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Alan Pope wrote: > > _like_ "Package Bazar". Given we already have a concept of 'packages' > On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 08:42:41AM -0700, ajmctaggart wrote: > post, or bazzar? So what evokes this idea of a trading post or a bazaar in Given that this word has been s

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 21:19 +0530, mac_v wrote: > On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 17:04 +0200, Siegfried Gevatter wrote: > > I have to add my voice in that I strongly dislike the name containing > > "Store", for the already echoed reasons. "Software Center" or even > > "Add/Remove..." are much better names,

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 09:19:27PM +0530, mac_v wrote: > On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 17:04 +0200, Siegfried Gevatter wrote: > > I have to add my voice in that I strongly dislike the name containing > > "Store", for the already echoed reasons. "Software Center" or even > > "Add/Remove..." are much better

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 10:16:20AM -0700, ajmctaggart wrote: > I definitely agree Bazaar could be confused with "bzr,"...But it is a word > that seems to align well with Ubuntu and the goals, etc...maybe we just need It does align nicely, although I think it'd be a strange name for anyone not fami

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 17:04 +0200, Siegfried Gevatter wrote: > I have to add my voice in that I strongly dislike the name containing > "Store", for the already echoed reasons. "Software Center" or even > "Add/Remove..." are much better names, IMHO. > How about "Software Zone" or "Ubuntu Zone"...

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 11:07 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > The nifty thing about "store" is that it has those two meanings -- shop, > and repository > I don't agree. "Store" primarily means a place where you *purchase* things. The secondary meaning of a repository implies that it's somewh

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Grossmeier wrote on 28/08/09 14:56: >... > Just double checking that I understand this part correctly: we're > going to have a line in every single software package description in > all of the Ubuntu repositories that says "Price: Free"? > > EDIT

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

My vote is for "Software Center". Pros and cons: + "Software" is more general in meaning (more than just apps) and it seems to be the the most used term and already the term chosen at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareStore. + Some lawers could also claim that "AppCenter" is too close to Apple's

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Loïc Martin wrote on 28/08/09 12:20: >... > We all seem to be copying the App Store from Apple (nothing wrong with > that), but perhaps the part we should change isn't so much the first > part in "App Store", but the second one? After all, both provide

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

(adding back ubuntu-desktop@) On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Stephan Hermann wrote: > The reason why anybodies blood start to boil right now, when they hear > "Ubuntu Software {Store,Shop,Market,Wholesale,Supermarket,etc.pp}" is > that Canonical right now is not making a big deal out of it. They

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Greg Grossmeier wrote: > I think Ubuntu has an opportunity here to create a new brand name for a > software repository that from the beginning implies Free to the user[0], > instead of the usual commercial-sounding options from other companies > (AppStore, Android M

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > Matthew East wrote on 28/08/09 11:44: >> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas >> wrote: >>... >>> "Center" was unfortunately off-limits because it lacks cross-Atlantic >>> compatibility, i.e. it differs in US English

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew East wrote on 28/08/09 11:44: > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas > wrote: >... >> "Center" was unfortunately off-limits because it lacks cross-Atlantic >> compatibility, i.e. it differs in US English vs. British English

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

(Adding ubuntu-desktop back to cc) On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > On Friday 28 August 2009 6:44:30 am Matthew East wrote: >> I saw that, but the problem is that people will not open the app in >> the first place. I saw the name "Ubuntu Software Store" before I saw >> yo

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Matthew East wrote: > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas > wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Matthew East wrote on 27/08/09 20:20: >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Przemek >>> Kulczycki wrote: On

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 11:07 +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > > > > I can see from the spec (and LP answer 81103) that it will be possible > > to purchase software from this app in the future, but it will also be > > possible to get software for free there, and for that reason I think a > > neu

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Matthew East wrote on 27/08/09 20:20: >> >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Przemek >> Kulczycki wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Matthew East wrote: >>... > Now, A

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew East wrote on 27/08/09 20:20: > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Przemek > Kulczycki wrote: >> >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Matthew East wrote: >... Now, AppCenter has a brand name: the Ubuntu Software Store. >... >>> Doesn't "s

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew East wrote on 28/08/09 07:47: > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Danny > Piccirillo wrote: >> >> So does this mean no packagekit? I knew plans for it in karmic had been >> dropped but this appcenter will replace Add/Remove instead? Would it

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Danny Piccirillo wrote: > So does this mean no packagekit? I knew plans for it in karmic had been > dropped but this appcenter will replace Add/Remove instead? Would it be > possible and/or worth it to base it on packagekit? Danny, as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/So

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

So does this mean no packagekit? I knew plans for it in karmic had been dropped but this appcenter will replace Add/Remove instead? Would it be possible and/or worth it to base it on packagekit? Sent from my G1 Android Phone. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:43, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > -BEGIN

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Przemek Kulczycki wrote: > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Matthew East wrote: >> Hi Matthew, >> >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas >> wrote: >>> Now, AppCenter has a brand name: the Ubuntu Software Store. >>>

Re: Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

Hi Matthew, On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > Now, AppCenter has a brand name: the Ubuntu Software Store. > > And it has a package in Ubuntu Karmic: software-store. > Looking for

Ubuntu Software Store: What it does, and how you can help

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone At the Ubuntu Developer Summit in May, we discussed AppCenter -- the codename for a new interface for finding, installing, and removing software in Ubuntu. Now, AppCenter has a brand name: the Ubuntu Software Store.