Re: build-from-branch into the primary archive

2011-02-22 Thread Andy Whitcroft
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 09:47:15PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 03:57:16PM +1100, Martin Pool wrote: On 22 February 2011 13:59, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: The alternative of adding a specialized field in debian/control for packages that

Re: Shall we hide the GUI for Hibernate in Natty?

2011-02-22 Thread Carlos Ribeiro
I'm just a lurker here, I'm just a user and I don't tend to say a lot. But remember that: 1) Not everyone uses laptops. Desktop PCs do not have a battery and losing power during a suspend is a no-no. 2) Not everyone has a long running battery. Suspend does eat a little bit of your battery

Re: collecting Python 3 status information

2011-02-22 Thread Allison Randal
On 02/20/2011 11:16 PM, Robert Collins wrote: I think you need an upstream status field, for instance for python-testtools which is single-source python 3.2+ compatible, but may not be packaged thusly. Ah, thanks, yes the field needs a clearer name. I've changed Notes to Upstream Python 3

Re: build-from-branch into the primary archive

2011-02-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 19, 2011, at 08:21 PM, Loïc Minier wrote: (We usually don't but lp:ubuntu URLs in Vcs-Bzr because it's kind of implicit that we have this branch in every package, but there is not way to tell whether the UDD branch is in use or not; listing it explicitly when it's used solves this)

Re: build-from-branch into the primary archive

2011-02-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 21, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: For that matter, if DEBCHANGE_RELEASE_HEURISTIC=changelog were the default, there would be an explicit mark this ready for upload step that typically consists of 'dch -r debcommit -r', which creates exactly the same tag as 'bzr mark-uploaded'.

Re: build-from-branch into the primary archive

2011-02-22 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 09:18:31AM +, Andy Whitcroft wrote: Regarding where it is done, I see no problem with doing it in debian/control. If it's configured in the package itself we would have the option to give a warning at the time people run dput rather than later sending mail

Re: build-from-branch into the primary archive

2011-02-22 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:14:56AM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: One point I don't understand is why people insist they need to leave work in progress on the official branch? bzr is a DVCS, so why don't people make their own branch and then only push to the official branch when it is, in

Re: Shall we hide the GUI for Hibernate in Natty?

2011-02-22 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Wednesday 23,February,2011 12:26 AM, Phillip Susi wrote: On 2/22/2011 10:44 AM, Chow Loong Jin wrote: My previously mentioned point still stands though. Many people close the lid of the laptop, stick it into a bag, and start walking. Considering the I/O intensive nature of the hibernation

Re: build-from-branch into the primary archive

2011-02-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:51:02 am Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:14:56AM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: One point I don't understand is why people insist they need to leave work in progress on the official branch? bzr is a DVCS, so why don't people make their own

Re: build-from-branch into the primary archive

2011-02-22 Thread Clint Byrum
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 10:41 -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Feb 19, 2011, at 08:21 PM, Loïc Minier wrote: (We usually don't but lp:ubuntu URLs in Vcs-Bzr because it's kind of implicit that we have this branch in every package, but there is not way to tell whether the UDD branch is in use or

Re: Shall we hide the GUI for Hibernate in Natty?

2011-02-22 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Wednesday 23,February,2011 01:22 AM, Phillip Susi wrote: On 2/22/2011 11:51 AM, Chow Loong Jin wrote: If a good calibration cycle is equivalent to letting the battery completely burn out, then yes, I've done that. You have to run it all the way down _from full_. Leave it charge over

Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting Minutes - 2011-02-15

2011-02-22 Thread Brad Figg
= Meeting Minutes = [[http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/02/22/%23ubuntu-meeting.txt|IRC Log of the meeting.]] BR [[http://voices.canonical.com/kernelteam|Meeting minutes.]] == Agenda == [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting#Tues, 22 Feb, 2011|20110222 Meeting Agenda]] === Release Metrics

Re: build-from-branch into the primary archive

2011-02-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 22, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: One point I don't understand is why people insist they need to leave work in progress on the official branch? bzr is a DVCS, so why don't people make their own branch and then only push to the official branch when it is, in fact, ready for

Re: build-from-branch into the primary archive

2011-02-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 22, 2011, at 09:23 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Cool! I didn't know about that. There's also debian-lp: prefix for Debian series branches in Launchpad (for various reasons, we can't use just debian:). Note however, that the series must be spelled out for debian-lp: -- there are no

Re: build-from-branch into the primary archive

2011-02-22 Thread Martin Pitt
Martin Pool [2011-02-21 16:17 +1100]: It seems like 'mark-uploaded' is causing a certain amount of friction at the moment: cases where it's not run and the branch therefore gets out of sync with the upload, and also just that it's an additional step that weighs people down. Right now,

Re: build-from-branch into the primary archive

2011-02-22 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 09:57:35PM +0100, Martin Pitt wrote: Andy Whitcroft [2011-02-22 9:18 +]: Someone would have to make sure they point to the right place though. I'd say about 80% of the packages I've looked at they are plain wrong. Really? I found maybe two in the last half year,

Re: build-from-branch into the primary archive

2011-02-22 Thread Loïc Minier
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011, Barry Warsaw wrote: I work that way, but independent dputs are still a problem. In a recent computer-janitor case, the changelog entry for the dput didn't show up in the source branch. So I see 2.1.0-0ubuntu1 but no 2.1.0-0ubuntu2. I had to merge the actual change

Re: build-from-branch into the primary archive

2011-02-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 22, 2011, at 10:29 PM, Loïc Minier wrote: But this was actually a case of me not being able to commit to the Vcs branch! :-) That's definitely a problem. :) Because of the team nature of Ubuntu development, I think in general uploaders should have push rights to the UDD branches.

changing perms on /sys/kernel/debug by default

2011-02-22 Thread Kees Cook
Hi, While I'd like to just not compile debugfs into the Ubuntu kernels at all, it seems that there is a fair bit of push-back on this idea. Instead, the dangerous /sys/kernel/debug/acpi/custom_method interface has been removed as the most problematic of all the interfaces (it allows writing

Re: changing perms on /sys/kernel/debug by default

2011-02-22 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 03:16:39PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote: Hi, While I'd like to just not compile debugfs into the Ubuntu kernels at all, it seems that there is a fair bit of push-back on this idea. Instead, the dangerous /sys/kernel/debug/acpi/custom_method interface has been removed as

Re: changing perms on /sys/kernel/debug by default

2011-02-22 Thread Kees Cook
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 03:37:27PM -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote: On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 03:16:39PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote: While I'd like to just not compile debugfs into the Ubuntu kernels at all, it seems that there is a fair bit of push-back on this idea. Instead, the dangerous

Re: changing perms on /sys/kernel/debug by default

2011-02-22 Thread Kees Cook
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 03:46:36PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote: On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 03:37:27PM -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote: On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 03:16:39PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote: While I'd like to just not compile debugfs into the Ubuntu kernels at all, it seems that there is a fair

Re: build-from-branch into the primary archive

2011-02-22 Thread Martin Pitt
Barry Warsaw [2011-02-22 17:22 -0500]: That's definitely a problem. :) Because of the team nature of Ubuntu development, I think in general uploaders should have push rights to the UDD branches. They do already. computer-janitor uses a custom branch, though, which is owned by

Re: build-from-branch into the primary archive

2011-02-22 Thread Micah Gersten
On 02/22/2011 02:20 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Feb 22, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: One point I don't understand is why people insist they need to leave work in progress on the official branch? bzr is a DVCS, so why don't people make their own branch and then only push to the

Re: OOo and LibO

2011-02-22 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
Hello On 10 February 2011 13:41, Prof. Román H. Gelbort elprofero...@openoffice.org wrote: Hi folks. I'm an Ubuntu user and supporter for years, in Argentina. And I'm the marketing contact of OpenOffice.org in my country too. Now, with the becoming of LibO to Ubuntu... ¿Is there the

nvidia binary drivers

2011-02-22 Thread Patrick Goetz
On 02/22/2011 06:00 AM, Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote: Patrick Goetz [2011-02-21 14:41 -0600]: Does the feature freeze include updating binary drivers? In principle yes, but as the current nvidia/fglrx drivers in Natty are totally broken (they are currently not available for the