Re: Maintaining language-specific module package stacks

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 00:41, Robie Basak wrote: > > I'd like to talk about addressing the difficulty in maintenance of long > tail language-specific stacks in Ubuntu. For example, right now > `src:rails` is stuck in disco-proposed[1]. It seems to me that we spend > a disproportionate amount of

Re: server seed: remove acpid?

On Thu., 1 Nov. 2018, 08:55 Andreas Hasenack Hi, > > we are reviewing the server seeds > ( > https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/ubuntu/+ref/disco > ) > and the acpid package came up. It's currently in the server seed, > meaning it's installed by default. > > I did some

Re: ANN: DNS resolver changes in yakkety

On 9 June 2016 at 20:44, Martin Pitt wrote: > Stéphane Graber [2016-06-07 16:47 -0400]: >> > > And so long as having a common solution can be done without regressions >> > > and without hand wavy answers like "web browsers will just have to >> > > switch to some new

Re: [ubuntu-cloud] RFC on Cloud Images: Make /tmp a tmpfs

aking a risk with all cloud image use cases. There is a view that apps that need stuff in memory should just, well, use memory. So yeah - lets make this configurable, but not default i. -Rob -- Robert Collins <rbtcoll...@hpe.com> Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud -- ubuntu-devel m

Re: is memtest86+ useful in ubuntu-standard ?

cloud images without removing 'ubuntu-standard' ? I don't see any reason to have it installed. I would like to still have it on the bootable server CD-roms, it's handy when something is suspected wrong. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud

Re: [ubuntu-cloud] Ubuntu cloud image '-root.tar.gz' content changes

on). Overall I think this is probably a good idea, but we'll need to fixup our code to be a bit more explicit about whether the output is for a vm or physical machine. HTH, Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu

Re: [ubuntu-cloud] Ubuntu cloud image '-root.tar.gz' content changes

On 29 October 2013 08:56, Scott Moser smo...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Tue, 29 Oct 2013, Robert Collins wrote: On 29 October 2013 07:46, Scott Moser smo...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi all, tldr; As we look forward to the 14.04 deliverable of cloud images, we're wanting to reduce legacy

Re: Introducing sbuild-launchpad-chroot

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Re: Follow Up from Let's Discuss Interim Releases

to changing needs from your users. 6 months is a very long interval for responding in a software project delivering products for the cloud. 4-6 weeks would be a much better interval, I think. But thats a different discussion :). -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist

Re: reflecting on first UDS session on rolling releases

and you have to segment it to reason sensibly about the stats we have. -Ro -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Cloud Services -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu

Re: Follow Up from Let's Discuss Interim Releases

On 13 March 2013 03:57, Thierry Carrez t...@ubuntu.com wrote: Robert Collins wrote: Understood. IMHO that LTS mode would significantly reduce the benefits compared to the current LTS. Current LTS promises to keep you secure with a behavior mostly unchanged. It gives you unchanged behavior

Re: Follow Up from Let's Discuss Interim Releases

On 11 March 2013 23:25, Thierry Carrez t...@ubuntu.com wrote: Thierry Carrez wrote: Robert Collins wrote: - Move the concept of using 'a release of Ubuntu' to using 'a configuration' - LTS is 'keep my behaviour unchanged', interim releases are 'give me new features when they are production

Re: Follow Up from Let's Discuss Interim Releases

On 11 March 2013 23:12, Thierry Carrez t...@ubuntu.com wrote: Robert Collins wrote: A - an archive that we place a high friction change process on, intended to eliminate regressions [the SRU] B - a logical name that users can associate with a /large/ bundle of changes. One can say 'Unity

Re: Follow Up from Let's Discuss Interim Releases

to the way we deliver it today. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Cloud Services -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel

Re: reflecting on first UDS session on rolling releases

On 10 March 2013 14:38, Steve Langasek steve.langa...@ubuntu.com wrote: Our SRU policy reflects this: we only allow updates to stable releases for specific bugfixes, and don't allow other changes. ... except for firefox. And kernels. -Rob -- ubuntu-devel mailing list

Re: reflecting on first UDS session on rolling releases

good one. A rolling release that isn't actually *always releasable* isn't a rolling release. Just saying. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Cloud Services -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https

Re: Monthly Updates versus Monthly Images

the plumbing we happen to have today, which they assuredly are not interested in. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Cloud Services -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman

Re: reflecting on first UDS session on rolling releases

: they can fix any issue by another upload. Exactly what conclusion to draw from that I'm not sure; will leave it as an exercise for the reader. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Cloud Services -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: Moving udd away from sqlite

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:09 AM, James Westby james.wes...@canonical.com wrote: Since https://bugs.launchpad.net/udd/+bug/724893 has been filed, we haven't understood *when* the importer fails but we know it can fail and it failed more often recently (and a lot during your first attempt if I

Re: Releasing Alphas and Betas without freezing

On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 2:12 AM, Rick Spencer rick.spen...@canonical.com wrote: Hello all, At UDS I had some hallway discussions about why we freeze for Alphas and Betas, and the fact that I think it is time to drop this practice and rather focus on making Ubuntu good quality each day. Sadly,

Re: event based initramfs

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Phillip Susi ps...@ubuntu.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I was a bit confused when I saw this uds event.  It is unclear to me why we would want to add upstart to the initramfs.  I think it is important to remember that the the

Re: Ubuntu Algorithms Team

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 11:21 AM, bdfhjk bdf...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I’m going to create Ubuntu Algorithms Team, which will be responsible for: * Helping developers in the implementation of the latest and hard to understand algorithms * Detection of ‘bottlenecks’ at boot time and during

Re: Moving udd to django

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 7:08 AM, James Westby jw+deb...@jameswestby.net wrote: My plan is delete add-import-jobs, and an a POST handler that gets told when there are new packages to scan. 'there is work to do now' is a classic pub-sub situation. Rather than a post handler, I suggest you want

Re: Moving udd to django

On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 4:28 AM, James Westby jw+deb...@jameswestby.net wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 17:52:40 +1300, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 3:10 PM, James Westby jw+deb...@jameswestby.net wrote: Hi, I think there are a few reasons that we

Re: Moving udd to django

On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 7:19 AM, James Westby jw+deb...@jameswestby.net wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 06:38:25 +1300, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: It might be interesting - as a thought experiment if nothing else - to consider failures a form of crash and upload them

Re: Moving udd to django

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 3:10 PM, James Westby jw+deb...@jameswestby.net wrote: Hi, I think there are a few reasons that we should consider moving udd to django (more on what this actually means later.) I'm curious what data udd stores. I'm +1000 on moving it towards a service, something that

Re: proposal do disallow syncs of library packages from experimental without approval

... or LP could talk to the tracker via a web API :P -Rob -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel

Re: bzr get-orig-source

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Jonathan Riddell jridd...@ubuntu.com wrote: I added a command to builddeb, bzr get-orig-source.  This helps with my workflow .. Others prefer to use  bzr builddeb [-- -nc]  but I find all the changing directories that requires is more hassle than gain. What

Re: Error database requirements

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Bryce Harrington br...@canonical.com wrote: 1.  Prior art in Linux?  Aside from Breakpad, do any other distros or    FOSS projects have crash reporting systems like this? There is LP's OOPS system, there is a google project for cross platform crashdump

Re: SRUs for typo fixes in descriptions

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Brian Murray br...@ubuntu.com wrote: With regards to the volume of bug reports - since Maverick has been released on 2010-10-10 there have been 8572 bugs reported using apport. The same number for Lucid since 2010-04-29 is 17,949.  I'd tell you the number for

Re: SRUs for typo fixes in descriptions

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Brian Murray br...@ubuntu.com wrote: With regards to the volume of bug reports - since Maverick has been released on 2010-10-10 there have been 8572 bugs reported using apport

Re: Crash database requirements (was: The need for apport hooks (was: Re: SRUs for typo fixes in descriptions))

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Christopher James Halse Rogers r...@ubuntu.com wrote: While we're using the terminology crash report, I want to ensure that there's a sufficiently general understanding of what this means.  I think we'd want this to cover at least:  * Actual C-style crashes,

Re: Crash database requirements (was: The need for apport hooks (was: Re: SRUs for typo fixes in descriptions))

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Christopher James Halse Rogers r...@ubuntu.com wrote: I know it's been proposed and discussed previously, and I believe Robert Collins both wants something similar for Launchpad and has done some work towards making it happen. I have a draft implementation

Re: Understanding the definitions and expectations of our membership processes

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Chase Douglas chase.doug...@canonical.com wrote: The other thing that I forgot to mention is that moving to a trust model of requirements resolves the issue that I face: acceptable for core-dev, but not for motu, and thus I'm not acceptable for core-dev. I was

Re: The append-revisions-only can of worms

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Max Bowsher _...@maxb.eu wrote: On 18/07/11 21:24, James Westby wrote: And of course, if the package has *ever* had an Ubuntu specific upload, that's an AppendRevisionsOnlyViolation. So we've actually found a bug here :-( Yeah, I think the logic should be

Re: New Launchpad feature: Diff between Sid and Oneiric

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Bryce Harrington br...@canonical.com wrote: It doesn't appear to have any functionality for auto-linking bug #'s. They get linkified on display :) - but an explicit link is something we could look at (done automatically with manual override to remove bad ones I

Re: Uploading to multiple distros

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:40 AM, Martin Owens docto...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 13:20 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: For this to work I think the suite target in the changelog entry should be qualified by the distro, so you could say (picking a random example):   picocom (1.4-1)

Re: Measuring success/failure in the installation

Without commenting on the privacy / merit of the proposal etc... I don't think you need a guid. Just two counters: - started an install - first login after an install where this machine successfully register the 'started an install' counter. divide the two and you have (with some noise) the

changing how apport handles master bugs with private data

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/764414 has a summary in it of a chat pitti and I had on IRC about the handling of master bugs with private data. What we currently do consistently confuses users and prevents Launchpads duplicate bug detection working properly (because the

Re: changing how apport handles master bugs with private data

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Bryce Harrington br...@canonical.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 09:53:56PM +1200, Robert Collins wrote: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/764414 has a summary in it of a chat pitti and I had on IRC about the handling of master bugs

Re: changing how apport handles master bugs with private data

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Bryce Harrington br...@canonical.com wrote: 1.  When new bugs are filed, LP doesn't show private bugs that may be    dupes. 2.  After filing, apport sometimes marks bugs as dupes of a master    private bug, which the dupee can't view. Yes; note that both of

Re: build-from-branch into the primary archive

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote: Barry Warsaw [2011-02-22 17:22 -0500]: That's definitely a problem. :)  Because of the team nature of Ubuntu development, I think in general uploaders should have push rights to the UDD branches. They do already.

Re: build-from-branch into the primary archive

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Loïc Minier loic.min...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 19, 2011, Scott Kitterman wrote: Perhaps a reasonable middle ground would be some new X-USE-UDD field (pick a better name please) in debian/control and a changet to dput that would either ask an are you sure

Re: bug search and source package names

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 6:06 AM, James Westby jw+deb...@jameswestby.net wrote: Hi Rob, One thing that isn't clear from your mail is if all substring matching on package names is out. For instance would searching for gcc get you results from gcc-4.4 and gcc-4.5? I was proposing to nuke the

Re: Loom merge

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:00 AM, John Arbash Meinel j...@arbash-meinel.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've been thinking about what it should mean when merging looms, and I was wondering what other people think. My specific thought is that loom merge should operate

Re: Analysis of Python 2.7 support in Natty

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Elliot Murphy ell...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@ubuntu.com wrote: So now that Natty main support for Python 2.7 looks pretty good, the question is: do we drop Python 2.6 from Natty? Pro-removal:  * It reduces the CD

Re: Arsenal reports for Unity and Indicator Applet teams

Thats pretty nice. One thought - a ln scale might be useful :) -Rob -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel

Re: Making bzr commit more like debcommit

Should be easy enough to add a hook to get fixes from plugins; the tricky bit is allowing users to confirm that the detected things are correct (or perhaps thats overkill?) Anyhow the bzr-builddeb, commitfromnews, launchpad plugins would all probably like this. -Rob -- ubuntu-distributed-devel

Looking into builddeb bugs a bit

I'm going to spent a little bit of time looking into bzr builddeb bugs. Are there any (ignore the bug tracker) of particular interest to folk on either of these two lists? Thanks, Rob -- ubuntu-distributed-devel mailing list ubuntu-distributed-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or

Re: Lots of conflicts when trying to merge protobuf to maverick

Hi Elliot, as we discussed on IRC - please make this a bug, and also store the two branches somewhere so that the package importer won't destroy the evidence. There's clearly something wrong, even if its just data, we should fix it and make it more obvious whats up. -Rob --

diagnosing collisions

Is there any docs on doing this? Many, if not most of the udd bugs are auto generated bug reports like https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/udd/+bug/414095. I'd like to analyse and fix these, but currently I'm starting from first principles. -Rob signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: import failures

On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 14:46 +1300, Michael Hudson wrote: Robert Collins wrote: On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 13:22 +1300, Michael Hudson wrote: James Westby wrote: On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 08:14:26 +1300, Michael Hudson michael.hud...@canonical.com wrote: For one reason and another, Tim ran

Re: import failures

On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 21:46 +, James Westby wrote: Some of them have been upgraded. If it's easier for me to do an info against all of them and filter out those not in 2a then I can do so. I think thats easiest. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part --

UDD @ Portland

James Westby and I had some time together in Portland to talk about UDD stuff. We talked about a few things: * Looms, their use today and where they should go * The operational issues with the package importer and how the bzr team can help * analysed a few specific bugs and tried to come up with

Re: UDD @ Portland

Martin asks what a collision is. The situation with package imports is that we have a branch B, which both Ubuntu developers and the package importer can commit to. Collisions are what happen when the package importer sees something arrive in the archive which is either not in, or different to,

Re: Recipes vs. Looms vs. pipelines

On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 10:30 -0600, John Arbash Meinel wrote: If you have a purely 'stack' model, and have: - - feature2 - - feature1 - - upstream If someone wants just 'feature2' they have to cherrypick or get feature1. Only if we have merged feature1 stuff into feature2; and its quite

Re: your thoughts wanted on bzr team UDD focus

On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 17:05 +1100, Andrew Bennetts wrote: Are there any other UDD-related bugs that should be filed (or existing ones tagged)? I suspect there are many, but we'll need to find them as we join dots up. I haven't read James' latest email, but I suspect it is relevant. -Rob

Re: your thoughts wanted on bzr team UDD focus

On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 11:29 -0500, James Westby wrote: http://people.canonical.com/~jamesw/merge_changelog is one, there are other versions around. Note that with the merge-package command we don't need the hooks to be able to do this (though it would be nice to have anyway). I don't

Re: your thoughts wanted on bzr team UDD focus

On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 02:39 +0100, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: Hi Martin, On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 12:19 +1100, Martin Pool wrote: I'd like to get a sanity check from UDD people on what the Bazaar team is going to do for our 2.1 release, which will have a feature freeze in February and go into

udd team on launchpad

What does the udd team on launchpad govern? Who should be in it? who should govern who is in it (Currently James Westby and I do, but perhaps it should be delegated from e.g. the TB)/ does it need to be moderated or should it be open for anyone to join? The description just says 'folk that are

Re: bzr loves Ubuntu @ UDS

On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 18:26 -0600, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: I'm not suggesting getting *all* of the imports working before doing anything else. But getting the import for a particular project for which you're going to do daily builds working properly before doing something else with it seems

Re: Merging with Bazaar -- Missing import of binutils-avr 2.20-1 and -2

On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 06:59 +, Max Bowsher wrote: Another import needing a nudge from you - neither 2.20-1 or -2 have been imported: I think it would be good to have a team of folk able to nudge things along, rather than bottlenecking on one person. -Rob signature.asc Description: