This is awesome news!
When I first proposed it 18-months ago, I was convinced it was the right
thing to improve Ubuntu's quality and the pace of development at the same
time.
I'm excited about this announcement!
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Had strange things happen? Are you
In CrOS, we do something similar. We have three boot phase jobs that most
other jobs are started and stopped by. They are:
startup (distinct from the event)
boot-services
system-services
They are chained together thus:
startup: start on startup (this has a main process that carries out
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worth mentioning?
5.9 seems to run-in with the next paragraph
8.2.3 - worth a | sort in there?
9.15 - start on stopped mydb EXIT_SIGNAL=SEGV ... ;-)
9.39 - really script/exec ? I'd just use exec there
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Is there anything in /usr/share/doc
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4.1.1 4.1.2 - worth explaining the real difference between task
and service here, perhaps? or later?
+1 from me on that. In particular, I'm interested in how
starting/started/stopping/stopped events interact
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Clint and I have been hard at work on an Upstart Cookbook. Although it
is early days, we wanted to let you all know we're working on this
project. Our (still *very* draft!) efforts can be viewed here:
Nice work, some
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there's a lot there.
Yeah, got to #4 and totally hit TL;DR; but will R more later
Although Upstart is used on on a number of different
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don't want to run ufw -- what's the procedure for
turning this service off? Deleting the ufw.conf script from /etc/init?
This seems terribly irreversible.
Yes, or renaming to .conf-disabled is a common pattern.
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What emits the net-device-added event?
It's emitted by ifup and by Network Manager, both via
the /etc/network/if-up.d/upstart script.
Sorry, this was the answer
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Next, suppose I don't want to run ufw -- what's the procedure for
turning this service off? Deleting the ufw.conf script from /etc/init?
This seems terribly irreversible.
Yes
in order to
trigger rc.conf -- who does that?
rc-sysinit.conf does on startup
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However, given this default you raise a good point that ureadahead
should be optimized for this option, not for auto-login.
We don't have the hooks
(yesterday's)
daily live CD
You sure this isn't a Kernel-related issue?
If SysRq doesn't reset the screen, that strongly implies this is a
kernel issue.
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Both can use the same library package
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branch - just need to do the update.
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Anyone can emit any event. That's probably the bit of Upstart that
people find the hardest to get to grips with, so there can never be any
comprehensive list of every event and every argument - because
, you may also use the restart(8) utility, e.g. restart cron
cron start/running, process 20151
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A good way of describing the difference is:
a dependency based system (such as you described) thinks
can I start foo yet? no, it needs bah
an event based system (like Upstart) thinks
bah just started, what else can I start now?
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lurid pink
on green if you like.
The default is the way it is because it provides the best contrast on
the majority of screens (TFTs, LCDs, etc.)
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having the work done to use only usb-modeswitch in lucid+1
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A little bit *bump* - so, what we do with this one? Is there enough
reason for freeze exception for this one
relevant Upstart documentation?
This is a bug that I'm working on.
The problem is there's no code in Plymouth to put the VT back ;-)
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We don't generally consider that slow on a hard-drive based system; what
kind of time was he expecting?
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existing bzr infrastructure. For example, by adding support to their
DVCS to be able to pull from and push to the LP server.
That way users could use whichever command-line tool they wanted, and
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commit that to git.
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is stalled waiting for the video card driver, which is stalled waiting
on the memory controller - you're doomed no matter how many different
contexts you broke that down into g
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Will you help multiseat proyect?
What kind of help do you require from the Technical Board?
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One of my principal concerns would that Gnote is simply a code port of
Tomboy from Mono to C++, with little development of its own. This means
that should the maintainer tire of converting C# to C
concerns would that Gnote is simply a code port of
Tomboy from Mono to C++, with little development of its own. This means
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2) All human eyes are drawn to colour. It's much easier for almost
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were there discussions about how to manage hibernation? tuxonice and i
think uswsusp can write to a swapfile, but i'm not sure that swsusp can
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It can.
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this is yet another strange postfix or unit that users would
have to learn.
735.2 MB is not confusing if it means ~735,200,000 bytes.
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... this is yet another strange postfix or unit that users would
have to learn.
735.2 MB is not confusing if it means ~735,200,000 bytes.
That's a good point for the short form, so long as the UI
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 11:36 -0500, Patrick Goetz wrote:
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Provided they are on the same physical console as the local optical
drive, this is done automatically.
Well, we need to retain the option of people ssh'ing to the machine and
using the optical drive
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on devices such as scanners so that logged in
console users can directly access the device without needing to be in
any special group.
Further access can be granted through the Authorizations tool.
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packages to only contain the upstream source code and no option
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MODULE_ALIAS() that you can do with an alias line in
module-init-tools.
We have eliminated them all, and are not really looking to put any
back ;)
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definition normally kilo == 1024)
The latter isn't true either.
Network speeds are generally in thousands of bits per second and
multiples thereof.
The primary users of binary multiples is the RAM industry, since it's a
fundamental multiple of how RAM works.
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ma, 2009-03-23 kello 11:57 +, Scott James Remnant kirjoitti:
One good idea would be that the screen holds at the login screen after
entering your password (e.g
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call that it uses to notify its parent of the completing IO. In that
case two things happen:
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This is most likely simply a difference between *your* 2.6.29 config and
the Ubuntu 2.6.28 one - I expect you compiled in many of the drivers
your computer
then to just have a download link to the
patches themselves.
In the meantime, you can obtain these from:
http://patches.ubuntu.com/
In particular:
http://patches.ubuntu.com/by-release/extracted/ubuntu/
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This is generally a benefit on SSD or very high speed rotary disks, but
a drawback on low speed rotary disks or machines with low memory.
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anything like the current level of effects :-/
metacity-clutter is more interesting in this regard.
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All we need to do on boot is step the system block by the timezone delta
if the hardware clock is not storing UTC.
On shutdown we do need to call --systohc to save the current time.
No hardware clock alteration is required during suspend/resume.
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bzr and git, and collide in mid-air?
As the other replier suggested, a more sane approach would be to allow
git access to the bzr archives.
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Also you can just fiddle on a per-disk basis, e.g.:
echo -n deadline /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler
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about both of them ;)
The Banshee authors got a list via Jorge Castro, and Rhythmbox authors
will be getting lots of bugs filed for them.
Banshee needs to be demonstrably _better_ than Rhythmbox, right now it's
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I'm generally more interested in getting stuff done that following
processes
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Package maintainers are no more in the light than the translators, all
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The wider subject
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On Mon, 2007-10-15 at 17:46 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
So I submit that programmable completions should be off by default.
As long as it stays on off by default for zsh, where it *always* has
been context-specific.
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On Mon, 2007-10-15 at 17:52 +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
On Mon, 2007-10-15 at 17:46 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
So I submit that programmable completions should be off by default.
As long as it stays on off by default for zsh, where it *always* has
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 03:46 +1000, David MacKinnon wrote:
On 10/16/07, Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You mentioned udev in your mailing list post -- clearly you have some
reason to suspect it should be fixed there, otherwise why mention it
all?
Because the other person
On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 11:04 +0200, Dominik Wagenfuehr wrote:
Alex wrote:
One of my clients sent me this quote about Choice:
So maybe dictatorship is the only real form of government...
Benevolent dictatorship
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the same purpose: locate only indexes file names, while
tracker indexes your entire file system, which is much more
heavyweight).
Sounds entirely reasonable to me; -server might choose to retain it, but
they don't have trackerd.
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warty. Our packaging system is more strict about this, of course; but
that's not a problem with glibc.
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day, could you
cross-reference with dpkg.log to see what you upgraded on that day?
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