Re: proposal do disallow syncs of library packages from experimental without approval

2011-10-06 Thread Iain Lane
Hello, On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 05:21:05PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 04:17:43PM +0100, Iain Lane wrote: On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 03:55:54PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: […] All three cases have in common that the packages were left alone for months. The third

Re: proposal do disallow syncs of library packages from experimental without approval

2011-10-06 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 04:00:55PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Le jeudi 06 octobre 2011 à 13:28 +0100, Iain Lane a écrit : You might not ever hear about it, but every time something is removed you are potentially letting people down. Right, but every time an annoying but in a software

Re: proposal do disallow syncs of library packages from experimental without approval

2011-10-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, October 06, 2011 03:27:13 PM Colin Watson wrote: On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 04:00:55PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Le jeudi 06 octobre 2011 à 13:28 +0100, Iain Lane a écrit : You might not ever hear about it, but every time something is removed you are potentially letting

Re: proposal do disallow syncs of library packages from experimental without approval

2011-10-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, October 06, 2011 10:03:26 AM Matthias Klose wrote: On 10/05/2011 10:47 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Wednesday, October 05, 2011 09:30:22 PM Sebastien Bacher wrote: To take an example I think porting universe GNOME2 applets to GNOME3 wouldn't be a good use of our time, we

Re: proposal do disallow syncs of library packages from experimental without approval

2011-10-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 04:08:31PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: During the oneiric development cycle we had syncs of library packages from experimental, introducing new sonames, and changing APIs in a way that other packages need to be ported to the new API, or if the port isn't trivial, need

Re: proposal do disallow syncs of library packages from experimental without approval

2011-10-05 Thread Iain Lane
Hiya, On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 03:55:54PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: […] All three cases have in common that the packages were left alone for months. The third example could have been avoided if we could check build dependencies when syncing, and rejecting the sync when the b-d's are not

Re: proposal do disallow syncs of library packages from experimental without approval

2011-10-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, October 05, 2011 04:17:43 PM Iain Lane wrote: Hiya, On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 03:55:54PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: […] All three cases have in common that the packages were left alone for months. The third example could have been avoided if we could check build

Re: proposal do disallow syncs of library packages from experimental without approval

2011-10-05 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Scott (2011.10.05_18:23:38_+0200) When I started a library transition I've always felt it was my job to drive it to closure. That's certainly what I've always seen people say when asked how transitions were managed in Ubuntu. If it's not clear that developers are responsible for this,

Re: proposal do disallow syncs of library packages from experimental without approval

2011-10-05 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le mercredi 05 octobre 2011 à 16:08 +0200, Matthias Klose a écrit : During the oneiric development cycle we had syncs of library packages from experimental, introducing new sonames, and changing APIs in a way that other Hi, The issue is not really specific to experimental, that could

Re: proposal do disallow syncs of library packages from experimental without approval

2011-10-05 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/10/5 Sebastien Bacher seb...@ubuntu.com: Le mercredi 05 octobre 2011 à 16:08 +0200, Matthias Klose a écrit : During the oneiric development cycle we had syncs of library packages from experimental, introducing new sonames, and changing APIs in a way that other The issue is not really

Re: proposal do disallow syncs of library packages from experimental without approval

2011-10-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, October 05, 2011 09:30:22 PM Sebastien Bacher wrote: Le mercredi 05 octobre 2011 à 16:08 +0200, Matthias Klose a écrit : During the oneiric development cycle we had syncs of library packages from experimental, introducing new sonames, and changing APIs in a way that other

Re: proposal do disallow syncs of library packages from experimental without approval

2011-10-05 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/10/5 Colin Watson cjwat...@ubuntu.com: I don't want to add extra archive-admin checking to the sync process; firstly, we're moving towards self-service syncs anyway, and secondly, as the libav example shows, syncs aren't really special here. I agree that this shouldn't be an archive-admin

Re: proposal do disallow syncs of library packages from experimental without approval

2011-10-05 Thread Robert Collins
... or LP could talk to the tracker via a web API :P -Rob -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel

Re: proposal do disallow syncs of library packages from experimental without approval

2011-10-05 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Mittwoch, den 05.10.2011, 14:35 -0400 schrieb Barry Warsaw: On Oct 05, 2011, at 07:07 PM, Stefano Rivera wrote: The sponsors not requesting testing and a transition effort commitment is something I've noticed too. I see transition sync requests that I don't look at immediately because

Re: proposal do disallow syncs of library packages from experimental without approval

2011-10-05 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 04:17:43PM +0100, Iain Lane wrote: On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 03:55:54PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: […] All three cases have in common that the packages were left alone for months. The third example could have been avoided if we could check build dependencies when