Re: Security Support - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-03-02 Thread Martin Pitt
Colin Watson [2013-03-01 16:49 +]: While I think monthly image releases make sense, I don't personally like the notion of monthly updates at all FWIW, I fully agree, I was just contemplating how we would implement it in the easiest possible manner should we have to do it at all. I would

Security Support - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, February 28, 2013 05:09:26 PM Martin Pitt wrote: * Take a monthly snapshot of the development release, which we support only until the next snapshot This is the main point where I have doubts and questions: * What does support mean for the monthly snapshots? Hopefully

Re: Security Support - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Marc Deslauriers
On 13-02-28 11:23 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Thursday, February 28, 2013 05:09:26 PM Martin Pitt wrote: * Take a monthly snapshot of the development release, which we support only until the next snapshot This is the main point where I have doubts and questions: * What does support

Re: Security Support - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, February 28, 2013 11:29:45 AM Marc Deslauriers wrote: On 13-02-28 11:23 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Thursday, February 28, 2013 05:09:26 PM Martin Pitt wrote: * Take a monthly snapshot of the development release, which we support only until the next snapshot This is

Re: Security Support - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Martin Pitt
Marc Deslauriers [2013-02-28 11:29 -0500]: The security team does support the development release. When we push updates for the stable release, our policy is to either sync, merge or fix the packages in the dev release also. That has been my impression as well. I would think that often this

Re: Security Support - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, February 28, 2013 05:49:46 PM Martin Pitt wrote: Marc Deslauriers [2013-02-28 11:29 -0500]: The security team does support the development release. When we push updates for the stable release, our policy is to either sync, merge or fix the packages in the dev release also.

Re: Security Support - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Marc Deslauriers
On 13-02-28 11:32 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Thursday, February 28, 2013 11:29:45 AM Marc Deslauriers wrote: On 13-02-28 11:23 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Thursday, February 28, 2013 05:09:26 PM Martin Pitt wrote: * Take a monthly snapshot of the development release, which we support

Re: Security Support - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Loïc Minier
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013, Martin Pitt wrote: So if the last monthly is supposed to actually be a kind of a release, instead of just a blessed daily installation image, this would mean that there would be a new series each month? New series are super expensive to create, need coordination in a

Re: Security Support - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Loïc Minier
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013, Scott Kitterman wrote: Will they start getting USN coverage? Good point; I've added that as a question in the bp[1] thanks, [1] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/release-r-monthly-snapshots -- Loïc Minier -- ubuntu-devel mailing list

Re: Security Support - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Jamie Strandboge
On 02/28/2013 10:53 AM, Marc Deslauriers wrote: On 13-02-28 11:32 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Thursday, February 28, 2013 11:29:45 AM Marc Deslauriers wrote: On 13-02-28 11:23 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Thursday, February 28, 2013 05:09:26 PM Martin Pitt wrote: * Take a monthly snapshot

Re: Security Support - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Jamie Strandboge
On 02/28/2013 10:23 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Thursday, February 28, 2013 05:09:26 PM Martin Pitt wrote: * Take a monthly snapshot of the development release, which we support only until the next snapshot This is the main point where I have doubts and questions: * What does support

Re: Security Support - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Jamie Strandboge
On 02/28/2013 10:49 AM, Martin Pitt wrote: Marc Deslauriers [2013-02-28 11:29 -0500]: We will also be pushing urgent security updates to monthly snapshot users. So if the last monthly is supposed to actually be a kind of a release, instead of just a blessed daily installation image, this

Re: Security Support - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2013-02-28 at 11:59 -0500, Marc Deslauriers wrote: On 13-02-28 11:49 AM, Martin Pitt wrote: I would expect users to upgrade to the latest packages of the RR each time update-notifier pops up, regardless of which medium they used to install. After a month this needs to happen

Re: Security Support - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Martin Pitt
Ted Gould [2013-02-28 16:52 -0600]: While I realize that the mechanism is yet undecided, but it is important that if we are doing release, and expect people to use them, that we do upgrade testing between those. This isn't really more work than having a 6 monthly release, but we shouldn't let

Re: Security Support - Re: Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

2013-02-28 Thread Martin Pitt
Loïc Minier [2013-02-28 18:27 +0100]: On Thu, Feb 28, 2013, Martin Pitt wrote: So if the last monthly is supposed to actually be a kind of a release, instead of just a blessed daily installation image, this would mean that there would be a new series each month? New series are super