Re: GParted installed by default?

2007-12-12 Thread Jonas Jørgensen
On Dec 6, 2007 1:48 PM, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > GParted is still installed on the live-CD, and was installed on hard > > disk by default in the past. > > I don't believe this latter statement is true, except perhaps by a > temporary bug in some milestone CD images [1]. An exhaus

Re: GParted installed by default?

2007-12-07 Thread Jan Claeys
Op donderdag 06-12-2007 om 12:48 uur [tijdzone +], schreef Colin Watson: > On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 10:26:35PM +0100, Jan Claeys wrote: > > GParted is still installed on the live-CD, and was installed on hard > > disk by default in the past. > > I don't believe this latter statement is true, ex

Re: GParted installed by default?

2007-12-06 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 10:26:35PM +0100, Jan Claeys wrote: > Op maandag 03-12-2007 om 15:57 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Jonas > Jørgensen: > > I would like to ask whether it has been considered to make GParted > > part of the default desktop install, and if so what the reasons were > > for not i

Re: GParted installed by default?

2007-12-05 Thread (``-_-´´) -- Fernando
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 10:59:17 Markus Hitter wrote: > Not including non-essential administration tools reduces confusion > and enhances user experience. BTW:, obviously, somebody decided disk > space is tight. Gutsy doesn't come with a working C compiler either, > which I'd consider far

Re: GParted installed by default?

2007-12-04 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 05.12.2007 um 00:47 schrieb Jan Claeys: > Op dinsdag 04-12-2007 om 11:59 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Markus > Hitter: >> Gutsy doesn't come with a working C compiler either, >> which I'd consider far more essential than a graphical partition >> editor (think about installing non-packaged sof

Re: GParted installed by default?

2007-12-04 Thread Jan Claeys
Op dinsdag 04-12-2007 om 11:59 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Markus Hitter: > Gutsy doesn't come with a working C compiler either, > which I'd consider far more essential than a graphical partition > editor (think about installing non-packaged software). Actually, GCC is available in the small

Re: GParted installed by default?

2007-12-04 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 04.12.2007 um 22:12 schrieb Caroline Ford: > An advanced windows user knows how to install new hard drives, [...] Yes. Ubuntu says it exists to make _un_experienced users productive. > new drives should just work. gparted won't help here. If you want to make sure new, even unformatted dri

Re: GParted installed by default?

2007-12-04 Thread Caroline Ford
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 11:59 +0100, Markus Hitter wrote: > Am 04.12.2007 um 10:11 schrieb Jonas Jørgensen: > > > A normal/average user won't ever use GParted, nor will they ever use > > many of the other tools in System->Administration -- but that isn't an > > argument for not including those tool

Re: GParted installed by default?

2007-12-04 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 04.12.2007 um 09:51 schrieb Onno Benschop: > On 04/12/07 17:30, Markus Hitter wrote: >> As drives come partitioned off the store, why should a normal user >> have a need to change this partitioning at all? >> > Well, for one, how are you supposed to tell Ubuntu that you have just > installed a

Re: GParted installed by default?

2007-12-04 Thread Jonas Jørgensen
On Dec 4, 2007 9:30 AM, Markus Hitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am 04.12.2007 um 07:58 schrieb Dane Mutters: > > > On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 15:57 +0100, Jonas Jørgensen wrote: > >> I would consider partition editing a basic feature that should be > >> provided by the operating system > > For adva

Re: GParted installed by default?

2007-12-04 Thread Onno Benschop
On 04/12/07 17:30, Markus Hitter wrote: > As drives come partitioned off the store, why should a normal user > have a need to change this partitioning at all? > Well, for one, how are you supposed to tell Ubuntu that you have just installed a new HDD? (Other than opening up fstab and editing i

Re: GParted installed by default?

2007-12-04 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 04.12.2007 um 07:58 schrieb Dane Mutters: > On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 15:57 +0100, Jonas Jørgensen wrote: >> I would consider partition editing a basic feature that should be >> provided by the operating system For advanced users, I agree. For average users, partitioning is something they sho

Re: GParted installed by default?

2007-12-03 Thread Dane Mutters
Looks like I replied to just Jonas instead of the whole list; sorry, Jonas. :-) On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 15:57 +0100, Jonas Jørgensen wrote: > I would like to ask whether it has been considered to make GParted > part of the default desktop install, and if so what the reasons were > for not including

Re: GParted installed by default?

2007-12-03 Thread Jan Claeys
Op maandag 03-12-2007 om 15:57 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Jonas Jørgensen: > I would like to ask whether it has been considered to make GParted > part of the default desktop install, and if so what the reasons were > for not including it. I would consider partition editing a basic > feature that

GParted installed by default?

2007-12-03 Thread Jonas Jørgensen
I would like to ask whether it has been considered to make GParted part of the default desktop install, and if so what the reasons were for not including it. I would consider partition editing a basic feature that should be provided by the operating system and not as an add-on program. The fact tha