Am 16.05.2008 um 13:05 schrieb Milosz Derezynski:
Furthermore, does anyone know how OS X and/or other operating
systems handle
this issue?
On Mac OS X, you can happily create files with names Windows Explorer
can't read. Recently it happened to me with a filename with a plain
space(!)
Am 16.05.2008 um 03:05 schrieb Evan:
I don't know where the filename check is supposed to happen, but it
isn't
happening anywhere. I've tried via the cli, and via nautilus, and
neither of
them prevent me from using Windows-illegal characters.
... because they are perfectly legal on the
On 16/05/2008, Markus Hitter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Prohibiting feature X here because it's forbidden there isn't a good idea.
It is in this case because of Ubuntu's target population and the fact
the NTFS / FAT32 are not native Linux file formats. By all means allow
advanced users to turn
Scott Kitterman pisze:
Doesn't wubi install Ubuntu into an existing Windows partition?
Exactly. And then Ubuntu will happily let you create files that you
can't read in Windows. It's weird.
It just ocurred to me that when you email files, odds are the receiver is using
Windows. Perhaps all
Le vendredi 16 mai 2008 à 00:06 -0400, Scott Kitterman a écrit :
On Thursday 15 May 2008 21:31, Evan wrote:
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Scott Kitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I'd say that if there's a bug it's in Windows. I could see a wishlist
bug against Ubuntu to provide a
Il giorno ven, 16/05/2008 alle 11.42 +0200, Milan Bouchet-Valat ha
scritto:
Hope Ubuntu is more modest than you appear to see it. Serve the user,
not the ideal technology you dream of in which every character is
supported in filenames.
I keep a copy of my working files in an usb pen. This
But clearly this issue can be seen as a limitation of the FAT filesystem,
just not yet imposed at the highest level of the filesystem driver (kernel
or userland)?
Surely ext3 *would* allow a slash in a filename (i guess?), if the userland
tools would just let the filesystem driver ever receive
On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:03:02 +0100 Alan Milnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On 16/05/2008, Markus Hitter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Prohibiting feature X here because it's forbidden there isn't a good
idea.
It is in this case because of Ubuntu's target population and the fact
the NTFS / FAT32 are
On Fri, 16 May 2008 11:42:28 +0200 Milan Bouchet-Valat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
...
Hope Ubuntu is more modest than you appear to see it. Serve the user,
not the ideal technology you dream of in which every character is
supported in filenames. When you're working on documents, being able to
read
On 16/05/2008, Scott Kitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While NTFS is closely associated with Windows, FAT is a defacto standard
for portable storage devices.
Agreed. It is not a Linux 'native' file format though.
Making and kind of O/S assumptions about FAT
is inherently incorrect. For
On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 08:24 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
FAT is a defacto standard for portable storage devices.
Not true anymore, the external disks I have seen that have 300 GB came
with NTFS. Anyway, external disks may be a different topic altogether,
but what about the Windows system
On Friday 16 May 2008 12:19, Mario Vukelic wrote:
On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 08:24 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
FAT is a defacto standard for portable storage devices.
Not true anymore, the external disks I have seen that have 300 GB came
with NTFS. Anyway, external disks may be a different
This e-mail summarises a discussion in #ubuntu-motu between myself,
ScottK and persia. I'll first explain the general problem, then suggest
a messy solution to a surprisingly messy problem. Most of these ideas
are not my own, and in fact had to be explained to me at some length, so
please don't
Andrew Sayers andrew-ubuntu-devel at pileofstuff.org writes:
Since there wasn't an NTFS expert available during the conversation,
NTFS is pretty well known and documented, especially filename handling.
Windows also do allow the creation of such filenames but it's not so
widely known how to do
On Thu, 15 May 2008 20:29:44 -0400 Evan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which package would this be filed against?
I'd say that if there's a bug it's in Windows. I could see a wishlist bug
against Ubuntu to provide a way to check for this/suggest changes to avoid
problematic filenames, but there is
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Scott Kitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I'd say that if there's a bug it's in Windows. I could see a wishlist bug
against Ubuntu to provide a way to check for this/suggest changes to avoid
problematic filenames, but there is nothing inherently defective with
On Thursday 15 May 2008 21:31, Evan wrote:
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Scott Kitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I'd say that if there's a bug it's in Windows. I could see a wishlist
bug against Ubuntu to provide a way to check for this/suggest changes to
avoid problematic filenames,
On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 21:14 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
but there is nothing inherently defective with the
current behavior.
I'd agree for any other fs, but the only reason you would use an ntfs
partition is because you want to read this in windows. Thus it makes
little sense to allow
On Fri, 16 May 2008 06:36:54 +0200 Mario Vukelic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
þÿOn Thu, 2008-05-15 at 21:14 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
but there is nothing inherently defective with the
current behavior.
I'd agree for any other fs, but the only reason you would use an ntfs
partition is because
On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 00:50 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
Doesn't wubi install Ubuntu into an existing Windows partition?
Exactly. And then Ubuntu will happily let you create files that you
can't read in Windows. It's weird.
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On Fri, 16 May 2008 06:53:35 +0200 Mario Vukelic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
þÿOn Fri, 2008-05-16 at 00:50 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
Doesn't wubi install Ubuntu into an existing Windows partition?
Exactly. And then Ubuntu will happily let you create files that you
can't read in Windows. It's
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