Re: [ubuntu-uk] Condemning Piracy - WAS eSys ePC basic

2007-08-28 Thread alan c
Tony Travis wrote: Mark Harrison wrote: I've had a look at the Customer Reviews on eBuyer (the UK distributor for eSys). Sadly, several of them talk about putting XP on it. I am tempted to post follow-up questions asking where they bought the XP licences from, in order to make that PC a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] eSys ePC basic

2007-08-27 Thread alan c
John Levin wrote: Hi all, This months Linux Format mag has a review of the eSys ePC Basic, a budget desktop preloaded with Ubuntu 6.06 Has anyone seen or used one of these? The website http://esysglobal.co.uk/esyspc.htm gives no details of prices or where to buy. I do not have that

Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Marketing: Promo Videos

2007-08-23 Thread alan c
Ian Pascoe wrote: Hi Alan Yep, see what you mean about the human factor. But, how did you know that the promo videos on stands as you were walking around were aimed at other people? Is this your past experience and you deliberately ignore 'em, or do you watch a couple of moments just to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Marketing: Promo Videos

2007-08-23 Thread alan c
Jim Kissel wrote: Ian Pascoe wrote: PS Is everyone on holiday this week as the list seems awful quiet? Only all of Europe, or so it seems. Not only are the mailing lists I subscribe to quite, there is not much news either or so it seems to me. now is the time then to field the type

Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Marketing: Promo Videos

2007-08-23 Thread alan c
Matthew Larsen wrote: Hey all, been a while IMO I think the idea of viral videos is a waste of time. When have they ever worked? I personally think its just a buzz-word and a marketing experiment gone crazy. We need to stop trying to 'trick' people in to moving to Linux. We need to show

[ubuntu-uk] Software Freedom Day (Bracknell, Berkshire)

2007-08-23 Thread alan c
This is to inform that I am organising a SFD event (Saturday 15th September) in Bracknell. I am in contact with the relevant LUGs (apologies if you have seen stuff already). If you are able to be involved, or help, or can be in Bracknell that day to say hello! or want details, please contact me

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Bug #1 - what we're up against

2007-08-23 Thread alan c
Phil Bull wrote: Hi Matt, Hope work's going well. On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 10:19 +0100, Matthew Larsen wrote: Well thats the biggest threat to linux: If Microsoft charged reasonable licenses for their software (ie £20 for Vista Ultimate), FOSS would be blown out of the water. I really

Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Marketing: Promo Videos

2007-08-22 Thread alan c
Ian Pascoe wrote: Following on from recent posts about Viral videos and screencasts, is there such a thing as a promo video / DVD, that could be left runing on something as part of a stand? Just thought that something like that is a trap for people to watch without necessarily actually

[ubuntu-marketing] Blog - Linux Hardware Support Better Than Windows

2007-08-20 Thread alan c
Not Ubuntu specific, but this is the sort of comment I really love to see! http://changelog.complete.org/posts/644-Linux-Hardware-Support-Better-Than-Windows.html A nice marketing stance. There are a host of good news stories about Linux which are well worth shouting. From a marketing strategy

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Questionable Canonical Merchandise

2007-08-20 Thread alan c
Sarah Hobbs wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey all, No idea who's behind this marketing decision, but... http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/08/20/linux-for-ladies/ As discussed in #debian-women earlier...does that mean that ladies are no longer human beings now?

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] the Ladies t-Shirts

2007-08-20 Thread alan c
Gerry Carr wrote: Hi all There has been some excitement about the Ladies T-Shirts I see. Well suffice to say the people at Canonical who made the decision were me Kat and Claire. And we did it to make the t-shirts more attractive to women not less. But it appears that not everyone shares

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu Viral Videos

2007-08-19 Thread alan c
Matthew East wrote: On 19/08/07, Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS. I haven't had a response to my emails to either Mozilla, or Ubuntuvideo.com. If the guy running ubuntuvideo.com isn't responsive, that is a substantial problem, given that the site is supposed to be a marketing

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Bug #1 - what we're up against

2007-08-17 Thread alan c
Neil Greenwood wrote: A very good discussion about why Linux doesn't have a greater market share. http://tlug.jp/articles/Windows_Is_Free A well put case with a closely argued set of points. Worth reading. also see: How Microsoft conquered China

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Fun day event was Leaflets

2007-08-17 Thread alan c
Rob Beard wrote: Quoting Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'll post feedback on how it goes on Saturday evening/Sunday morning. Rob Cool, good luck mate :-) Chris Just wanted to give some feedback on the event I was arranging in Exeter. Thanks, and Well Done for carrying it through!

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Microsoft launches PC rebuilding scheme

2007-08-17 Thread alan c
Eddie Armstrong wrote: Rob Beard wrote: I would have thought for older machines Ubuntu 6.06 with it's long term support would be a better idea than any M$ software. Rob Now if I were the cynical type I would suggest maybe Microsoft has already thought of this and decided to preempt it -

[ubuntu-marketing] Bug #1 What we're up against

2007-08-17 Thread alan c
A post on this subject on the UK list gave this link: http://tlug.jp/articles/Windows_Is_Free It is well worth reading. It is closely though out and argued. The article is a pro linux response to a linux critical one of a similar subject. For this list I copy some extracts here of points which

[ubuntu-marketing] Decide Our message - and Sing it!

2007-08-17 Thread alan c
How to get our message across? A unique and fun way for us to deliver our message is to Sing it! The utube link below is a Helsinki Choir, getting attention in a delightful way, on the subject of complaints in their lives. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATXV3DzKv68 enjoy -- alan cocks Kubuntu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Application to listen to online radio

2007-08-16 Thread alan c
Chris Rowson wrote: Can anyone give any advise on getting the 'Listen Live' link on www.helpmechill.co.uk to work. Thanks in advance. -- Must go; places to be, people to do, stuff to, err, stuff. Colin Ooooh cheers for the link Colin, My colleagues and I down here in the computer

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu servers hacked?

2007-08-16 Thread alan c
Chris Rowson wrote: alan c wrote: Ubuntu Servers Hacked http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/15/1341224 If this is true it is pretty sad. It will take some time for confidence to be regained. What a gift (or a result?) for the opposition! I think that too much is being

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] comments

2007-08-16 Thread alan c
Matthew East wrote: On 16/08/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Press fodder. Set them up high and then knock 'em down. It makes news on the way up, and also on the way down. As Ubuntu gets higher profiles as I am sure It will, it is going to happen much more. A tribute to growing fame. I

[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu servers hacked?

2007-08-15 Thread alan c
Ubuntu Servers Hacked http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/15/1341224 If this is true it is pretty sad. It will take some time for confidence to be regained. What a gift (or a result?) for the opposition! I was recently trying to reduce my ignorance about security by asking questions

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu servers hacked?

2007-08-15 Thread alan c
Jim Kissel wrote: alan c wrote: Ubuntu Servers Hacked http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/15/1341224 If this is true it is pretty sad. It will take some time for confidence to be regained. What a gift (or a result?) for the opposition! It was a case of self inflected

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Application to listen to online radio

2007-08-15 Thread alan c
Colin Murphy wrote: On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 23:45 +0100, Alec Wright wrote: On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 23:41 +0100, Colin Murphy wrote: Can anyone give any advise on getting the 'Listen Live' link on www.helpmechill.co.uk to work. Is that the right URL? It's an ad farm. Sorry again, s/be

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Application to listen to online radio

2007-08-15 Thread alan c
Colin Murphy wrote: On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 01:01 +0100, Gav Ford wrote: On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 23:41 +0100, Colin Murphy wrote: Can anyone give any advise on getting the 'Listen Live' link on www.helpmechill.com to work. Works fine with mplayer, open a terminal and install mplayer with:

touch screen experience please?

2007-08-15 Thread alan c
I am being asked to comment on procurement of a touch screen - an external one which fits over the front of the display. A desktop compatible model is shown with no mention of how it connects. A laptop version is also shown with a comment that it is USB. Does anyone know if the technology is

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] heads up - Why Is PCLinuxOS 2007 Better Than Ubuntu?

2007-08-14 Thread alan c
Aaron Toponce wrote: [...] Only the true hardcore nerds are familiar other distros such as Yellow Dog, Nexenta, *BSD and even PCLinuxOS. Not any more, which is part of my point. My experience at the weekend was a shock to me, I was unprepared for it (I will be prepared in future though). The

Re: [ubuntu-uk] iPod management

2007-08-13 Thread alan c
Josh Blacker wrote: Hi all, Got a text from a friend earlier asking if she bought a new desktop from dell with Ubuntu, would she be able to use all her old files etc. I explained that yes Ubuntu can deal with jpgs (she was worried she wouldn't be able to see all her photos!) and OpenOffice

Re: [ubuntu-uk] iPod management

2007-08-13 Thread alan c
Josh Blacker wrote: Hi all, [...] Dells, or are they?), but I must admit I have no idea about managing an iPod from Ubuntu. I have most of the songs I want on mine anyway, and still dual-boot so can use iTunes when need be. An alternative approach could be to consider running linux *on* the

Re: Fwd: Orca on XFCE, using Xubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn

2007-08-13 Thread alan c
Mírian Bruckschen wrote: Hello Willie, On 8/13/07, Willie Walker wrote: Orca is a community project, however, and we encourage others to help us with testing and using Orca on all sorts of platforms. As you gain experience with XFCE, it would be great if you could include your notes off

[ubuntu-marketing] heads up - Why Is PCLinuxOS 2007 Better Than Ubuntu?

2007-08-13 Thread alan c
Blog: Why Is PCLinuxOS 2007 Better Than Ubuntu ? http://www.pkblogs.com/cyneuron/2007/08/why-is-pclinuxos-2007-better-than.html#comment-1731958896017522083 This blog has the most succinct comparison I have seen, I am impressed. I find I am in agreement with most (not all) of what is said, and I

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu World Map

2007-08-13 Thread alan c
alan c wrote: I bring your attention to the Ubuntu World map which I believe is the sort of thing which will help increase ubuntu buzz. It is taking some time to be given status as 'Sticky' on the forums, although I think it woul db ean excellent idea. I would like to encourage ubuntu use

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu World Map

2007-08-13 Thread alan c
Matthew East wrote: Hi, Back on list. On 13/08/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew East wrote: On 13/08/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.flippinsweetdude.com/maps/index.php Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWorldWide. This one you've posted appears

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] heads up - Why Is PCLinuxOS 2007 Better Than Ubuntu?

2007-08-13 Thread alan c
Martin Ahnelöv wrote: Martin Ahnelöv wrote: mÃ¥n 2007-08-13 klockan 08:26 +0100 skrev alan c: Blog: Why Is PCLinuxOS 2007 Better Than Ubuntu ? http://www.pkblogs.com/cyneuron/2007/08/why-is-pclinuxos-2007-better-than.html#comment-1731958896017522083 This blog has the most

[ubuntu-uk] Keylogger installed?

2007-08-10 Thread alan c
How can I check that a keylogger or similar is not installed in my machine? -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [SALES PITCH ]Dell hardware and Ubuntu.

2007-08-08 Thread alan c
John Dow wrote: On 8/7/07, Josh Blacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hit the 'report spam' button in gmail... /joke I'm interested in getting a new desktop for/in september so count me in on this - does the offer extend to monitors and accessories when buying as well? I've only got my laptop at

Re: [ubuntu-uk] DELL w/Ubuntu available in the UK

2007-08-08 Thread alan c
Pete Stean wrote: Ah, the Dell Inspiron 6400 which they are selling retails for £359+ depending on features such as memory etc. The irony of course is that this machine is *no cheaper* than the Vista-loaded equivalent... why are they not prepared to pass on the licence cost saving to the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] DELL w/Ubuntu available in the UK

2007-08-08 Thread alan c
Pete Stean wrote: alan, cost is not an issue for me either - I wasn't really arguing for myself when I talked about the identical pricing. What I was thinking about was how could I possibly convince a friend or relative who has a vague interest in running linux to buy the linux-loaded Dell

Re: [ubuntu-uk] DELL w/Ubuntu available in the UK

2007-08-08 Thread alan c
Tony Arnold wrote: Mark, Mark Harrison wrote: Tony Arnold wrote: I've never understood how or why this works! Why should the vendor of the bloatware pay Dell to install it? Surelly, Dell should buy a license for the bloatware from its vendor and pass this on to the customer. It just seems

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [SALES PITCH ]Dell hardware and Ubuntu.

2007-08-07 Thread alan c
Nik Butler wrote: [ SALES PITCH ] As many may already be aware Dell will be shipping Ubuntu preinstalled kit to the UK market. I am ( to the best of my knowledge ) uniquely positioned to have a very long term working and purchasing arrangement with Dell on behalf of all my customers.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [Marketing] Help with custom live CD please?

2007-08-06 Thread alan c
Alec Wright wrote: On Sat, 2007-07-28 at 15:58 +0100, alan c wrote: I have a window of opportunity to attract attention in a large charity I have helped in the past, and I could very much use a custom (Ubuntu) live CD with a only a few differences from the standard: Just out of interest

[ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Help with custom live CD please?

2007-08-05 Thread alan c
alan c wrote: I have a window of opportunity to attract attention in a large charity I have helped in the past, and I could very much use a custom (Ubuntu) live CD with a only a few differences from the standard: The boot splash logo, the in-process (Usplash?) screen, and the default

[ubuntu-uk] Malware discussion from another list

2007-08-04 Thread alan c
The following originated as a newcomer request about AVG virus checker, and I added comments suggesting that linux was infertile ground for infection, and associated points. It was (is) a balanced and interesting discussion, and has yielded the comments copied below, which seem to be quite

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-UK Planet CoC

2007-08-03 Thread alan c
Chris Rowson wrote: I always understood the definition of free to be as in freedom. Although of course if someone decided to hijack plant.ubuntu-uk.org for the singular purposes of promoting a business which is in no way related to Ubuntu or FOSS (for instance, selling viagra!) then that

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-UK Planet CoC

2007-08-03 Thread alan c
Michael Wood wrote: Michael Wood wrote: There have been a few issues with some of the posts appearing on the Ubuntu-UK planet, These haven't really been resolved as we have no guidelines to uphold any complaints around. Therefore I propose that there should be an code of conduct aimed at

Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 5

2007-08-03 Thread alan c
Pete Stean wrote: On the document sharing issue, you have considered using a shared web-space to do this? Google offer a solution I think... and it's so 21st century :) I have to say, on the note re mailing lists - I *hate* them - they have such limited functionality it's embarassing. I'm

Re: [ubuntu-uk] My Blog

2007-08-03 Thread alan c
Mark Harrison wrote: Guys, Just for the record, since I suspect it's my Blog that has specifically kicked off this issue: If the community as a whole would rather I simply syndicated OSS-related posts, then I am happy to do so. I have deliberately syndicated my entire personal

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Freecycle / Ubuntu tie-up????

2007-08-03 Thread alan c
Mark Harrison wrote: Dave Murphy wrote: On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 16:50 +0100, Mark Harrison wrote: I've created a Facebook group with the following description: Although I'm a Facebook user myself, I'm not comfortable with making Facebook membership a requirement for contribution to

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Internet Market

2007-08-03 Thread alan c
Dalton Miyabara wrote: De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Mike Feravolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cópia: ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Data: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 23:10:41 -0700 Assunto: [Spam] Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Television Market, Orlando FLorida USA On 8/1/07, Mike Feravolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [ubuntu-uk] This came in on the local Freecycle

2007-08-02 Thread alan c
Mark Harrison wrote: alan c wrote: What about advertising on Freecycle- 'Ubuntu Linux CD - the good alternative to Windows - free install and advice' It would be totally AGAINST the charter of Freecycle just to do this, Ah! Ok understood. -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk

Re: [ubuntu-uk] This came in on the local Freecycle

2007-08-02 Thread alan c
John Dow wrote: On 8/2/07, Mark Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: alan c wrote: What about advertising on Freecycle- 'Ubuntu Linux CD - the good alternative to Windows - free install and advice' It would be totally AGAINST the charter of Freecycle just to do this, and likely cause

Re: [ubuntu-uk] This came in on the local Freecycle

2007-08-02 Thread alan c
Alec Wright wrote: On 02/08/07, John Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/2/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CDs for Library: Are these ones you have burned, and what packaging have you used, wit any instructions or commentary? Yeah, I burned a pile of copies of the Edgy Live CD and printed

[ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Is it legal? (Asia)

2007-08-01 Thread alan c
Given that Acer have said that there is no demand for Linux on laptops in UK (article note 1) but *are* rolling out laptops with Ubuntu in Asia, it is notable that even in Asia, readers are not expected to know anything about Linux or Ubuntu. In the following article (note 2) Asia Cnet gives a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Is it legal? (Asia)

2007-08-01 Thread alan c
Price? I dont understand, please explain? Matthew Larsen wrote: I dont think it has anything to do with demand, more price Regards, On 01/08/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given that Acer have said that there is no demand for Linux on laptops in UK (article note 1) but *are* rolling

Re: [ubuntu-uk] This came in on the local Freecycle

2007-08-01 Thread alan c
Chris Rowson wrote: If you have an old PC that you no longer need, why not install Ubuntu on it, and offer it up to your local Freecycle group? Kudos to Martin in East Grinstead who made the offer on Freecycle Crawley. Mark That's a really good idea Mark. At the end of the day, if

[ubuntu-uk] Customising Ubuntu with Reconstructor (version 2.6) and Gimp (2.2.13)

2007-07-31 Thread alan c
Customising Ubuntu with Reconstructor (version 2.6) and Gimp (2.2.13) I have been successful with customising Ubuntu version 6.06.1 (Dapper) and Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty). I happen to be using a kubuntu 7.04 machine for the work. The machine also has ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop installed, so

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Usage in the UK

2007-07-30 Thread alan c
Darren Mansell wrote: From my own experience of talking to others and generally noticing trends I would say that Ubuntu gets more home usage than Mac OS in the UK. Does anyone have any facts or figures to confirm or deny this? Can anyone suggest any ways to get an idea of how true this is?

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help with custom live CD please?

2007-07-29 Thread alan c
alan c wrote: I have a window of opportunity to attract attention in a large charity I have helped in the past, and I could very much use a custom (Ubuntu) live CD with a only a few differences from the standard: The boot splash logo, the in-process (Usplash?) screen, and the default

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-28 Thread alan c
Matthew Larsen wrote: Hey Chris, Nice article although I feel you fall into the 'non-techie explanation trap' as I call it. The article is aimed at non techie readers, so a non techie explanation is needed. Most of the computer users I know use a computer they use Windows. Period. They do

[ubuntu-uk] Help with custom live CD please?

2007-07-28 Thread alan c
I have a window of opportunity to attract attention in a large charity I have helped in the past, and I could very much use a custom (Ubuntu) live CD with a only a few differences from the standard: The boot splash logo, the in-process (Usplash?) screen, and the default wallpaper (as live CD).

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Two operating systems

2007-07-27 Thread alan c
Keith Powell wrote: Keith Powell wrote: For some time now, I have had two hard drives, each in its own plug-in mobile hard drive caddy. One has XP on it (which I still need :-( and the other has Ubuntu on it. So I have just plugged in whichever OS I wanted. I'm thinking of doing away with

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Two operating systems

2007-07-26 Thread alan c
Alec Wright wrote: You would just need to set the Ubuntu one as master and the XP one as slave (not the other way round like you suggested) and when you reinstall Ubuntu, it should automatically add an entry in GRUB for XP. I do not think that it matters much whether one is master or slave (I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Users - disabled or learning difficulty

2007-07-25 Thread alan c
Ian Pascoe wrote: Just for those of you who are interested, here's a copy of my reply to Alan on the Accessability list. Alan, apologies just realised I replied direct to you and not through the list! No problem! And Thanks Ian! your reply was fast and invaluable, I could immediately try

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Contents of ubuntu-uk digest...

2007-07-25 Thread alan c
Matthew Wild wrote: On 7/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 'Repo on external drives' idea is superb, i often want to install things at work, which is a secure network and hence we cant have internet access to not secured machines, would also be better for big sites IE

Re: Advice for newcomer please? (thanks)

2007-07-25 Thread alan c
alan c wrote: I do not usually use any special accessibility features, and have a few hours to familiarise with what is offered in Kubuntu. [...] Many thanks to Ian and Carlos for the replies! I usually use kubuntu so it would have taken me quite a time to realise that the best accessibility

Re: Advice for newcomer please? (thanks)

2007-07-25 Thread alan c
Carlos Diógenes wrote: HI alan, 2007/7/25, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED]: alan c wrote: It did not take me long to try out some simple things because I already have ubuntu-desktop as one of the session options. I do not think the screen magnifier worked for me on my desktop machine

[ubuntu-marketing] eye the competition 'Marketing'

2007-07-25 Thread alan c
Someone is getting desperate perhaps? I saw a 8 leaf (16 sides) booklet today in a neat container on the counter of my local computer shop. Advertising Microsoft Office. For interest in the possible debate about what marketing is, and differences between technical fact and marketing (expected)

[ubuntu-marketing] more marketing pressure needed?

2007-07-25 Thread alan c
An article has recently appeared: 'Marketing Ubuntu - Why we Need More Double Glazing Salesmen' http://www.justuber.com/blog/2007/07/24/marketing-ubuntu-why-we-need-more-double-glazing-salesmen/ I find myself in good accord with the article. -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 --

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Users - disabled or learning difficulty

2007-07-24 Thread alan c
Ian Pascoe wrote: Alan Well snooped! What does the charity do that requires it to set up a small PC group for it's clients; any idea what they're looking for yet? The client base is about two dozen people with learning difficulty. Various abilities, some have completed local courses

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Users - disabled or learning difficulty

2007-07-24 Thread alan c
Lucy wrote: On 24/07/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have made contact with a local charity who are soon to create a facility of a few PCs for use by their clients. I am not aware of a Ubuntu related group which has such an interest - comments would be welcomed. It depends

Advice for newcomer please?

2007-07-24 Thread alan c
I do not usually use any special accessibility features, and have a few hours to familiarise with what is offered in Kubuntu. The reason is that I have a meeting tomorrow morning with a small local organisation here who are soon to set up a few PCs for people with learning difficulties. Their

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Targeting locally impacting widely

2007-07-24 Thread alan c
Chris Rowson wrote: I think that this is quite a good draft. However, I think it is important (as Debian does in their why you should switch page) to note some disadvantages as well. I do not go along with (that quoted comment) at all. This is a *Marketing* list! We should be bringing

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread alan c
Alec Wright wrote: Pretty good, but: Ubuntu doesn't get viruses should be Ubuntu rarely gets viruses. I appreciate your point. However, as of recently, are there *any* reports of ubuntu suffering from viruses? To 'rarely' get a virus supposes that a virus has actually been 'got'. With 60,000

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread alan c
Chris Rowson wrote: Anyway there was an edit conflict so I saved it with the highlighted conflicts. You can have a look at delete whatever you don't like. Whilst I do like the edits, I worry that they make the article seem a little more caustic and technical. The audience I had in mind

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Article for local mag

2007-07-23 Thread alan c
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reads very nicely to me now. I also agree with the other point that we are quite within our rights to push the boat back out a bit more WRT virii. I heartily agree. When the competition has a poor product fro years, but good marketing, it is certainly the time to use

[ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntus 'best move ever'

2007-07-23 Thread alan c
I have thought hard about the topic discussed in the article, and am glad to say that a solution has now been delivered to me! When thinking about my own leaflets for local use (informing about FOSS) it was obvious to me that in a public non technical uninformed audience, the word 'Free' was

[ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu in the wild - down to earth review (article)

2007-07-16 Thread alan c
This article is well worth reading if you love Ubuntu. It is not particularly favourable, but I think it is typical of what will be many others in future now that Ubuntu has got a visible place on many peoples radar. It offers how others see us. Gold dust for Marketing I suggest. I know there

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [uk-marketing] Using launchpad

2007-07-15 Thread alan c
Chris Rowson wrote: Hi folks, I notice that people aren't really using launchpad and bazaar for ubuntu-uk marketing stuff. That's cool, but I just wondered if there was a reason why in particular? Do people find it hard to do, or is there just a lack of interest in doing it? If people

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Petition against BBC iplayer

2007-07-15 Thread alan c
Chris Rowson wrote: On 13/07/07, Josh Blacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may all be interested in this article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6897050.stm BBC to hear open source concerns Oooh very good - 'tis a pity that someone has to threaten the BBC with litigation before

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux World Expo

2007-07-13 Thread alan c
Nik Butler wrote: I have completed the form http://www.linuxexpo.org.uk/ on our Behalf and will await further information If no one has any qualms I would like to organise the Stand in the .ORG village as I did before , however this is not a solo affair and all your contributions, effort

[ubuntu-uk] More interest is noticed (From Infopoint)

2007-07-11 Thread alan c
specific it is for Open Source information and Linux, but in practice my displays have the K/Ubuntu brand as a strong centre feature. [copy] == Subject: [Infopoint] more Interest gathering - a change Date: 11-7-07 [DG] wrote: alan c wrote: I mostly display monthly

Re: [ubuntu-uk] we suck or we just act differently?

2007-07-11 Thread alan c
Dave Murphy wrote: As others have pointed out, it's not a lack of action - we're all active in our own ways. Instead it's a lack of *organised* action. However co-ordinating a LUG has taught me that central organisation is extremely difficult to manage. My experience with (my) volunteer run

Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk-marketing

2007-07-11 Thread alan c
Matthew East wrote: Matthew East wrote: The creation of leaflets, for example, is pretty clearly something that should be shared over the whole Ubuntu community, and isn't UK specific. You might find that there can be differences. It depends to what level the leaflets are aimed. For Ubuntu

[ubuntu-uk] Tux Suit?

2007-07-11 Thread alan c
Rob Beard wrote: alan c wrote: Rob Beard wrote: Matthew Larsen wrote: count me in too On 09/07/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Larsen wrote: Maybe its the abundance of talk and lack of action thats the problem. I trust you do not include me in that comment? I spend a full day

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing Material for launching Open Source shop

2007-07-11 Thread alan c
Chris Warburton wrote: Now the big question, who can help me come up with marketing material and ideas for marketing events like the launch. What approach to take to get people aware of OSS and how to let people know of pro's and con's of converting. Want to take a clean approach to this

[ubuntu-marketing] Review of the 'competition'

2007-07-11 Thread alan c
With my marketing interest hat on, I am increasingly aware, in an uncomfortable way, of the implications of the Distrowatch rankings. It is a simple counter I believe, and has limitations, but is a number to be judged upon, particularly in the apparently complete absence of any other available

Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk-marketing

2007-07-10 Thread alan c
Rob Beard wrote: alan c wrote: Why not contribute to the existing marketing team? Why fork? The existing marketing team is not UK specific. The UK media, temperament, retail environment etc are all specific to uk. A recent discussion (for me) on the (global) marketing list included

Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk-marketing

2007-07-10 Thread alan c
Alan Pope wrote: Hi Alan, On Mon, 2007-07-09 at 23:02 +0100, alan c wrote: Why not contribute to the existing marketing team? Why fork? The existing marketing team is not UK specific. The UK media, temperament, retail environment etc are all specific to uk. Sure

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Petition against BBC iplayer

2007-07-10 Thread alan c
Matthew Larsen wrote: signed I am trying to sign it but do not seem to have received the contact email. Did yours arrive in timely fashion? -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Petition against BBC iplayer

2007-07-10 Thread alan c
Matthew Larsen wrote: yeah instantly :oS On 10/07/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Larsen wrote: signed I am trying to sign it but do not seem to have received the contact email. Did yours arrive in timely fashion? Ah, I see my name halfway up the long list so I must have

Re: [ubuntu-uk] we suck or we just act differently?

2007-07-09 Thread alan c
gord wrote: Taken from the latest ubuntu weekly news. * The Serbian Team has close to 1000 members. Articles written by the team have appeared in several magazines and a member was on a TV show with national coverage and gave away CDs to the audience. The team has held an install fest

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflet sheet (SHHIPT content) for CDs

2007-07-09 Thread alan c
alan c wrote: I have just added to the leaflet wiki page - a shipit content leaflet for use when offering DIY burned Live CDs leaflet1a-SHIPIT_alan_cocks Simple double side A4 sheet containing SHIPIT Text content, for use when offering Desktop (7.04) Live CDs https://wiki.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk-marketing

2007-07-09 Thread alan c
Alan Pope wrote: Hi Chris, On Mon, 2007-07-09 at 20:27 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote: * Create a new section on the wiki for ubuntu-uk-marketing and move the current work on leaflets to it. Tidying up the wiki pages is a good idea. Making marketing material accessible is clearly a good

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing Material for launching Open Source shop

2007-07-09 Thread alan c
Stephan Buys wrote: Hi All Been Ubuntu user for almost 2 years now, love it, want to incorporate it into a shop i am opening selling pre-installed ubuntu pc's, notebooks and ps3's. Entering the market for making people aware of other OSS solutions, asterisk, X10-home automation, CRM, ERP,

[ubuntu-marketing] How Microsoft conquered China - CNN article

2007-07-09 Thread alan c
This is an interesting read, and if you had any doubts about how effective ms are, this will inform. Are Canonical are able to develop relationships with Chinese institutions? -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] How Microsoft conquered China - CNN article (link)

2007-07-09 Thread alan c
alan c wrote: This is an interesting read, and if you had any doubts about how effective ms are, this will inform. Are Canonical are able to develop relationships with Chinese institutions? (Many apologies, I missed out the link!) http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007

[ubuntu-uk] Leaflets - getting my 'own' back!

2007-07-08 Thread alan c
I went to a local free open air music event yesterday and was talking at an environment related stand when I got chatting to another bystander about computers recycling and - Ubuntu. He had made a start on an old PC and talked a lot about it. As we were about to part I mentioned keeping in

[ubuntu-uk] Olympia 2007 Org Village? (Nik, Jono?)

2007-07-08 Thread alan c
I see that a date apparently looms: Is someone already orgnanising this please? (If not free than by other means?) Promote your Open Source project, group or campaign FREE in the .ORG village @ LinuxWorld London. 'Thanks to generous sponsorship you can promote your Open Source project, group

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Firefox and BBC video (sigh)

2007-07-04 Thread alan c
Michael wrote: alan c wrote: I am happy to say that a neighbour of mine is using Kubuntu. I helped choose the new machine (dell basic desktop) and set it all up, dual boot. The neighbour trusts my judgement and the fact that I use it (and not windows) and I can help with the PC anyway

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Firefox and BBC video (sigh)

2007-07-04 Thread alan c
alan c wrote: Michael wrote: alan c wrote: I am happy to say that a neighbour of mine is using Kubuntu. I helped choose the new machine (dell basic desktop) and set it all up, dual boot. The neighbour trusts my judgement and the fact that I use it (and not windows) and I can help

[ubuntu-uk] Start afresh with RealPlayer?

2007-07-04 Thread alan c
What is a good method of cleaning out realplayer? I have installed realplayer at least twice in this machine (kubuntu 7.04), and have tried to remove the instance of one of the installs. However I think I have not properly cleaned up. So I am considering to clean it our completely and reinstall

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