Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Instill the Need

2010-08-10 Thread Lisandro Vaccaro
I'm quite sure part of the FLOSS model is not to use ads, it's easy, when you don't charge for the service you can't really spend money on publicity. We could never compete with ads from Windows or Mac, the point is that while this may not be possible we still have ways to promote it by helping th

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Instill the Need

2010-08-10 Thread Martin Owens
Hey Lisandro, On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 10:55 -0300, Lisandro Vaccaro wrote: > Is anyone willing to help to make and organize marketing material? People already are organising around spread ubuntu and locos. These centers of activity are a good candidate. Add in the new Ubuntu brand guidelines and w

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Instill the Need

2010-08-10 Thread alan c
On 10/08/10 04:33, Roscoe wrote: > I still say that until there is the Ubuntu ad that pops up on the > television set whilst *joe public* is watching it, we will be fighting a > constant uphill battle. > People will have to be introduced to Ubuntu via TV just like the other > OS's, and will have to

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Instill the Need

2010-08-10 Thread Randall Ross
Further to this thread, I was trying to inventory all the places where people could see/encounter Ubuntu, if there was a solid marketing campaign in place: - print (magazines, newspapers, etc.) - online placements (e.g. Google Ads) - tv commercials - paid tv placements (inserted into shows) - radi

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Instill the Need

2010-08-10 Thread Lisandro Vaccaro
We need to see what are the real things we can use right now. We can't aspire for paid commercials, we just can't, it's a matter of money Ubuntu won't beat Mac and Windows spending money on marketing when they have an infinite amount of money to do it, we need the "grows organically" approach, but

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Instill the Need

2010-08-10 Thread Lisandro Vaccaro
We need to see what are the real things we can use right now. We can't aspire for paid commercials, we just can't, it's a matter of money Ubuntu won't beat Mac and Windows spending money on marketing when they have an infinite amount of money to do it, we need the "grows organically" approach, but

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Instill the Need

2010-08-10 Thread Lisandro Vaccaro
We need to see what are the real things we can use right now. We can't aspire for paid commercials, we just can't, it's a matter of money Ubuntu won't beat Mac and Windows spending money on marketing when they have an infinite amount of money to do it, we need the "grows organically" approach, but

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Instill the Need

2010-08-10 Thread Randall Ross
Thanks for chiming in. Good feedback. To clarify, I am *not* trying to choose or advocate any favourites. I *do* feel that an inventory of all channels regardless of cost, merits, feasibility, etc is still a useful thing to do. Let's make no assumptions at this point. Is my list complete? On 10

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing Ubuntu

2010-08-10 Thread Lisandro Vaccaro
I think this has been the best summary of what we have to do. I'll start to build a sort of declaration of values accessible to anyone, I'll copy most from Ubuntu official statements and also provide our material regarding marketing. Obviously anyone is free to help or at least give feedback when I

[ubuntu-marketing] The 5 principles to promote Ubuntu

2010-08-10 Thread Lisandro Vaccaro
We appear to have (tens of) thousands of disjointed "micro marketing" efforts dispersed around the globe. No central voice. No common messaging. No specific goal(s) other than the nebulous one to "spread Ubuntu". (recently posted randal ross on the list) We aim to create a guideline for everyone w

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Instill the Need

2010-08-10 Thread Randall Ross
Adding social networks to the original list (per Lisandro's message.) Adding direct mail. Adding promotional merchandise. Current list is now: - print (magazines, newspapers, etc.) - online placements (e.g. Google Ads) - online social networks (e.g. Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Flickr, etc.) - tv

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Instill the Need

2010-08-10 Thread Martin Owens
Hey Randall, On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 13:53 -0700, Randall Ross wrote: > - print (magazines, newspapers, etc.) > - online placements (e.g. Google Ads) ... > - splash-screens on pre-installed systems (e.g. Ubuntu Light) > - product co-branding (e.g. an ad on another product) > > Rather than pick favo

[ubuntu-marketing] The First Step to Solving a Problem Is Recognizing We Have a Problem

2010-08-10 Thread Randall Ross
I've noticed that we have a lot of people still "lurking"... ouch. If you aren't nervous (yet), then please read here: http://randall.executiv.es/pig If you think we need a community-driven Marketing Strategy, please vote here: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/25424/vote/34796/1 If you think on

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Instill the Need

2010-08-10 Thread Ko Ko Ye`
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Randall Ross wrote: > Further to this thread, I was trying to inventory all the places where > people could see/encounter Ubuntu, if there was a solid marketing > campaign in place: > > *- print (magazines, newspapers, etc.)* (i am Knowledge Bridge Magazine > Edit

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] The First Step to Solving a Problem Is Recognizing We Have a Problem

2010-08-10 Thread Lisandro Vaccaro
I think brainstorm is a great place to gather volunteers but we have to stop discussing about it and start getting things done. We know what we have to do, nobody is against a marketing campaign, we have to stop thinking about the why and start to think on the how. -- Lisandro H. Vaccaro -- ubu

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] The First Step to Solving a Problem Is Recognizing We Have a Problem

2010-08-10 Thread Tim McNamara
On 11 August 2010 10:59, Lisandro Vaccaro wrote: > I think brainstorm is a great place to gather volunteers but we have to > stop discussing about it and start getting things done. We know what we have > to do, nobody is against a marketing campaign, we have to stop thinking > about the why and st

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] The First Step to Solving a Problem Is Recognizing We Have a Problem

2010-08-10 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: >  - videos on YouTube/vimeo/others with case studies >  - gather usage stories (maybe something like Apple's Switch campaign done > right [1]) The idea of videos has been tossed around before, but never quite gained formal traction. Luckily th

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing Ubuntu

2010-08-10 Thread Martin Owens
Can we use a scratch pad to start off with and then perhaps move to something more structured later? I really liked the gplv3 comments software, I thought that was very cool, but it's hard to find/setup. I'm not using the right language in searches, can anyone else find some web software which allo

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] The 5 principles to promote Ubuntu

2010-08-10 Thread Martin Owens
On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 18:30 -0300, Lisandro Vaccaro wrote: > We appear to have (tens of) thousands of disjointed "micro marketing" > efforts dispersed around the globe. No central voice. No > common messaging. No specific goal(s) other than the nebulous one > to "spread Ubuntu". (recently posted

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] The First Step to Solving a Problem Is Recognizing We Have a Problem

2010-08-10 Thread Martin Owens
On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 12:03 +1200, Tim McNamara wrote: > Two need to think about: > > 1) what result would a successful marketing campaign bring? 2) who are > we marketing to? > > A target market of 'the world' makes life really difficult for no > money. Where should the campaign focus its atte

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] The 5 principles to promote Ubuntu

2010-08-10 Thread Lisandro Vaccaro
And also what would be the does and don'ts for marketing. 2010/8/11 Martin Owens > > > On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 18:30 -0300, Lisandro Vaccaro wrote: > > We appear to have (tens of) thousands of disjointed "micro marketing" > > efforts dispersed around the globe. No central voice. No > > common mess

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] The First Step to Solving a Problem Is Recognizing We Have a Problem

2010-08-10 Thread Lisandro Vaccaro
2010/8/11 Martin Owens > On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 12:03 +1200, Tim McNamara wrote: > > Two need to think about: > > > > 1) what result would a successful marketing campaign bring? 2) who are > > we marketing to? > > > > A target market of 'the world' makes life really difficult for no > > money. Whe