Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

On 09/28/2015 08:22 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: Den 2015-09-28 kl. 13:56, skrev Marc Deslauriers: On 2015-09-28 07:48 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: Den 2015-09-21 kl. 18:03, skrev Nicholas Skaggs: On 09/19/2015 07:29 AM, Marc Deslauriers wrote: On 2015-09-19 07:04 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: Hi Marc, My sta

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Den 2015-09-28 kl. 13:56, skrev Marc Deslauriers: > On 2015-09-28 07:48 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: >> Den 2015-09-21 kl. 18:03, skrev Nicholas Skaggs: >>> On 09/19/2015 07:29 AM, Marc Deslauriers wrote: On 2015-09-19 07:04 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > Hi Marc, > > My standard ISP's mail se

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

On 2015-09-28 07:48 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > Den 2015-09-21 kl. 18:03, skrev Nicholas Skaggs: >> On 09/19/2015 07:29 AM, Marc Deslauriers wrote: >>> On 2015-09-19 07:04 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: Hi Marc, My standard ISP's mail server is down. So I tried to send this mail via Google

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Den 2015-09-21 kl. 18:03, skrev Nicholas Skaggs: > On 09/19/2015 07:29 AM, Marc Deslauriers wrote: >> On 2015-09-19 07:04 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: >>> Hi Marc, >>> >>> My standard ISP's mail server is down. So I tried to send this mail >>> via Google's >>> web mail interface. In my saved version of t

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

On 25/09/15 21:06, Nio Wiklund wrote: Den 2015-09-25 kl. 20:37, skrev floccul...@gmx.co.uk: On 25/09/15 17:43, Nio Wiklund wrote: Den 2015-09-25 kl. 18:21, skrev chris hermansen: Nio and list, On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 7:19 AM, Nio Wiklund mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com>> wrote: [stuff deleted]

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Den 2015-09-26 kl. 05:28, skrev chris hermansen: > Good evening Nio, list, > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Nio Wiklund > wrote: ... > > > 2. Finally I tried gnome-disks. The terminology is a little funny. You > should 'restore', as if you had created t

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Good evening Nio, list, On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > Den 2015-09-25 kl. 23:48, skrev chris hermansen: > > Flocculant and list, > > > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 12:45 PM, wrote: > > > > [stuff deleted] > > > > > >> > >> For the record - I've given up using anything but gn

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Den 2015-09-25 kl. 23:48, skrev chris hermansen: > Flocculant and list, > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 12:45 PM, wrote: > > [stuff deleted] > > >> >> For the record - I've given up using anything but gnome-disks. Which gives >> me a working tool each and everytime, from wherever and for whatever

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Flocculant and list, On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 12:45 PM, wrote: [stuff deleted] > > For the record - I've given up using anything but gnome-disks. Which gives > me a working tool each and everytime, from wherever and for whatever - I > have had problems with other apps/coomands of one sort of th

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Den 2015-09-25 kl. 21:45, skrev floccul...@gmx.co.uk: > On 25/09/15 20:32, chris hermansen wrote: >> [snip] >> >> Well, that may be the case, but in the circumstances at hand, making a >> bootable USB stick for Ubuntu 15.10 beta amd64 from an up-to-date >> Ubuntu 15.04 amd64 system hardly strikes m

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Den 2015-09-25 kl. 20:37, skrev floccul...@gmx.co.uk: > On 25/09/15 17:43, Nio Wiklund wrote: >> Den 2015-09-25 kl. 18:21, skrev chris hermansen: >>> Nio and list, >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 7:19 AM, Nio Wiklund >> > wrote: >>> >>> [stuff deleted] >>> >>> >>>

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

On 25/09/15 20:32, chris hermansen wrote: [snip] Well, that may be the case, but in the circumstances at hand, making a bootable USB stick for Ubuntu 15.10 beta amd64 from an up-to-date Ubuntu 15.04 amd64 system hardly strikes me as some edge case that can be safely ignored by instructing the

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Flocculant and list, On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 11:37 AM, wrote: [stuff deleted] >> The problem seems to be that the Startup Disk Creator cannot manage the >> Wily iso files, while other tools can do it. >> >> I hope that Marc gets green light to go ahead and convert the Startup >> Disk Creator i

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

On 25/09/15 17:43, Nio Wiklund wrote: Den 2015-09-25 kl. 18:21, skrev chris hermansen: Nio and list, On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 7:19 AM, Nio Wiklund mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com>> wrote: [stuff deleted] Bug #1499746 Hi Chris, Maybe you can confirm the bug for amd64 (and cli

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Den 2015-09-25 kl. 18:21, skrev chris hermansen: > Nio and list, > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 7:19 AM, Nio Wiklund > wrote: > > [stuff deleted] > > > > Bug #1499746 > > Hi Chris, > > Maybe you can confirm the bug for amd64 (and click affects me too)

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Nio and list, On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 7:19 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: [stuff deleted] > > Bug #1499746 > > Hi Chris, > > Maybe you can confirm the bug for amd64 (and click affects me too). > > Done, Nio. Also added a comment. For completeness I decided to try making a startup disk of 15.04, sinc

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Den 2015-09-25 kl. 09:05, skrev Nio Wiklund: > Den 2015-09-21 kl. 18:03, skrev Nicholas Skaggs: >> On 09/19/2015 07:29 AM, Marc Deslauriers wrote: >>> On 2015-09-19 07:04 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > ... >>> That's a very interesting spreadsheet, thanks for doing that. It seems >>> most >>> issues

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Nio Wiklund: I don't know if this bug is reported at Launchpad, if it should be reported now, or if it is enough that we know about it here and now. Please report it and point me to it! Thank you. -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Den 2015-09-21 kl. 18:03, skrev Nicholas Skaggs: > On 09/19/2015 07:29 AM, Marc Deslauriers wrote: >> On 2015-09-19 07:04 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: ... >>> >> That's a very interesting spreadsheet, thanks for doing that. It seems >> most >> issues are: >> >> - A known bug in udisks that prevents the e

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Den 2015-09-21 kl. 18:03, skrev Nicholas Skaggs: > On 09/19/2015 07:29 AM, Marc Deslauriers wrote: >> On 2015-09-19 07:04 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: >>> Hi Marc, >>> >>> My standard ISP's mail server is down. So I tried to send this mail >>> via Google's >>> web mail interface. In my saved version of t

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

On 09/19/2015 07:29 AM, Marc Deslauriers wrote: On 2015-09-19 07:04 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: Hi Marc, My standard ISP's mail server is down. So I tried to send this mail via Google's web mail interface. In my saved version of the mail, there is an attachment "SCC-test.ods", size 17692 bytes. I'll

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

On 19/09/2015 01:02 μμ, Nio Wiklund wrote: > I have talked to the developer of Rufus. He is doing a great job :-) I > think it would be great in linux too, but I don't think I could port > Rufus. I agree, let us hope someone will do it. > > And thanks for the link to big-bug-bonanza :-) > That

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Den 2015-09-19 kl. 13:15, skrev Nio Wiklund: > If some filter will eat "SDC-test.ods" in the mail system, you can find > it via this link > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2291946&page=2&p=13358864#post13358864 > > I hope it helps :-) Hi again, I was asked to file a report against ol

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Marc Deslauriers: I believe a simple way to eliminate every one of these issues at once in UDC would be to get rid of the persistence functionality. I think this is the way to go, specially because with persistence the disk becomes slow. -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

On 2015-09-19 09:45 AM, Marc Deslauriers wrote: >> As noted in the bug, I tried (just the 14.04.3 ISO this time) with the >> version >> in trusty-updates AND the original trusty version, and both failed at the >> bootloader install point. Bug updated. > > That's because you downgraded the packa

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

On 2015-09-19 09:27 AM, J wrote: > On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 8:42 PM Marc Deslauriers > > wrote: > > Hi, > > Thanks for trying it. > > On 2015-09-18 06:01 PM, J wrote: > > I'm just going to throw this out there, because I abandoned SDC >

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 8:42 PM Marc Deslauriers < marc.deslauri...@canonical.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for trying it. > > On 2015-09-18 06:01 PM, J wrote: > > I'm just going to throw this out there, because I abandoned SDC > > (usb-creator-gtk) ages ago in favor of unetbootin, and this thread

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Getting rid of persistence? It's one of the things that make LiveUSBs of Linux awesome. It would be a step in the backward direction. On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 at 4:59 PM, Marc Deslauriers < marc.deslauri...@canonical.com> wrote: > On 2015-09-19 07:04 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > > Hi Marc, > > > > My stand

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

On 2015-09-19 07:04 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > Hi Marc, > > My standard ISP's mail server is down. So I tried to send this mail via > Google's > web mail interface. In my saved version of the mail, there is an attachment > "SCC-test.ods", size 17692 bytes. I'll try again ... > > Best regards > Nio

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

If some filter will eat "SDC-test.ods" in the mail system, you can find it via this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2291946&page=2&p=13358864#post13358864 I hope it helps :-) -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Hi Marc, My standard ISP's mail server is down. So I tried to send this mail via Google's web mail interface. In my saved version of the mail, there is an attachment "SCC-test.ods", size 17692 bytes. I'll try again ... Best regards Nio -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.c

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Hi Nio, On 2015-09-19 06:43 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > 2015-09-17 16:24 GMT+02:00 Nio Wiklund : > >> Hi subscribers to the ubuntu-quality mailing list, >> >> I posted the following comment about the Startup Disk Creator after a >> reminder today, that bug #1325801 is still alive. >> >> ... > > >

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

2015-09-17 16:24 GMT+02:00 Nio Wiklund : > Hi subscribers to the ubuntu-quality mailing list, > > I posted the following comment about the Startup Disk Creator after a > reminder today, that bug #1325801 is still alive. > > ... Hi again, Now I have tested the Ubuntu Startup Disk Creator, SDC.

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

On 18/09/2015 05:05 μμ, Nio Wiklund wrote: > Hi NikTh, > > What tool do you use to make USB boot drives? Do you use the Startup > Disk Creator or some other tool, maybe a tool in Windows? > > Best regards > Nio > I've used SDC for a while, but mostly I'm using dd. dd is not a tool for newbies

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

On 19/09/15 11:05, Nio Wiklund wrote: 2015-09-19 3:03 GMT+02:00 >: Been following this discussion. [snip] Hi flocculant, Maybe I do not understand what you mean: I think you mean that we (the group at the discussion thread at the Ubuntu Forums) should n

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

2015-09-19 3:03 GMT+02:00 : > Been following this discussion. > > Frankly I will, and tell people, when something works in a particular set > of circumstances use A or B or C, depending on circumstance. > > Earlier in the discussion 2 rather important points were made > > 1 - many of the reported

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Den 2015-09-19 kl. 11:30, skrev NikTh: > > > On 18/09/2015 05:05 μμ, Nio Wiklund wrote: >> Hi NikTh, >> >> What tool do you use to make USB boot drives? Do you use the Startup >> Disk Creator or some other tool, maybe a tool in Windows? >> >> Best regards >> Nio >> > > I've used SDC for a while, bu

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

+1 for Rufus on Windows. Has become a goto tool I have started to recommend users with UEFI. On Sat 19 Sep, 2015 3:00 pm NikTh wrote: > > > On 18/09/2015 05:05 μμ, Nio Wiklund wrote: > > Hi NikTh, > > > > What tool do you use to make USB boot drives? Do you use the Startup > > Disk Creator or so

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Been following this discussion. Frankly I will, and tell people, when something works in a particular set of circumstances use A or B or C, depending on circumstance. Earlier in the discussion 2 rather important points were made 1 - many of the reported issues are corner cases 2 - the 'poll'

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Hi, Thanks for trying it. On 2015-09-18 06:01 PM, J wrote: > I'm just going to throw this out there, because I abandoned SDC > (usb-creator-gtk) ages ago in favor of unetbootin, and this thread prompted me > to spend some time this afternoon checking it out and seeing if it was usable > or > not

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

I'm just going to throw this out there, because I abandoned SDC (usb-creator-gtk) ages ago in favor of unetbootin, and this thread prompted me to spend some time this afternoon checking it out and seeing if it was usable or not. Keep in mind, this is my sample size of one, but I tried three ISOs:

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

On 09/18/2015 10:03 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: I disagree. The incredibly long list of Unetbootin bugs leads me to believe it's in a worse state than Startup Disk Creator: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unetbootin/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unetbootin/+bugs?field

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Hi Shubham, If it is OK with a live-only pendrive, Win32 Disk Imager is a very reliable tool. Unetbootin works in Windows too. Maybe the bad impression of Unetbootin depends on where you get it. The version from the developer's PPA works, but the version in the Ubuntu repositories lags behind. B

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

On 18/09/2015 02:34 μμ, Marc Deslauriers wrote: > > I disagree. The incredibly long list of Unetbootin bugs leads me to believe > it's > in a worse state than Startup Disk Creator: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/unetbootin/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0 > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/un

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Den 2015-09-18 kl. 15:06, skrev NikTh: > > On 18/09/2015 02:34 μμ, Marc Deslauriers wrote: >> >> I disagree. The incredibly long list of Unetbootin bugs leads me to believe >> it's >> in a worse state than Startup Disk Creator: >> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unetbootin/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Den 2015-09-18 kl. 13:34, skrev Marc Deslauriers: > On 2015-09-17 06:23 PM, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: >> Nio Wiklund: >>> Disks (gnome-disks) is also very simple and reliable. >> >> It isn't. I use it frequently, and usually it loses its ability to format >> disks >> in certain file systems. >

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Hi Shuibham, On 18 September 2015 at 14:15, Shubham Rao wrote: > What about media creation from Windows? > That would make life difficult for me. Regarding OS's, if I'm not running a L/Ubuntu on a device, it's running Debian :) BW, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://ww

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

What about media creation from Windows? On Fri 18 Sep, 2015 6:37 pm NikTh wrote: > > On 18/09/2015 02:34 μμ, Marc Deslauriers wrote: > > > > I disagree. The incredibly long list of Unetbootin bugs leads me to > believe it's > > in a worse state than Startup Disk Creator: > > > > https://bugs.lau

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

On 2015-09-17 06:23 PM, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: > Nio Wiklund: >> Disks (gnome-disks) is also very simple and reliable. > > It isn't. I use it frequently, and usually it loses its ability to format > disks > in certain file systems. > > > Nio Wiklund: >> I think the price of replacing it

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Hi again Marc, I have forwarded your questions to the people (at the 'poll thread') in the Ubuntu Forums. See my replies inline. Best regards Nio Den 2015-09-17 kl. 17:47, skrev Marc Deslauriers: > On 2015-09-17 11:26 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: ... >> kansasnoob: >> >> 1. Aside from SDC being badly

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Nio Wiklund: Disks (gnome-disks) is also very simple and reliable. It isn't. I use it frequently, and usually it loses its ability to format disks in certain file systems. Nio Wiklund: > I think the price of replacing it for the moment far outweighs the > cost of fixing the few bugs it has

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Le 2015-09-17 15:21, Nio Wiklund a écrit : > Den 2015-09-17 kl. 19:08, skrev Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre: [...] > It seems that a fair fraction of those who have bothered to vote in the > poll and / or written a detailed reply prefer Unetbootin. And I know > that many of them have used it in many situ

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Den 2015-09-17 kl. 19:08, skrev Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre: > Le 2015-09-17 12:44, Nio Wiklund a écrit : > [...] >> I will forward your comments and tips to the persons at the Ubuntu >> Forums who reported the bugs and bad features :-) >> >> More than four years has passed with severe bugs, that make

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Marc Deslauriers: Most of those bugs are are either for ancient releases of Ubuntu that are no longer supported, can't be reproduced, affect specific hardware, or are wishlist items. Okay, so they should be these:

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Le 2015-09-17 12:44, Nio Wiklund a écrit : [...] > I will forward your comments and tips to the persons at the Ubuntu > Forums who reported the bugs and bad features :-) > > More than four years has passed with severe bugs, that make the SDC fail > in many cases. I think you have had enough chance

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Le 2015-09-17 12:17, Nio Wiklund a écrit : [...] > > I did not know about it, but you just showed me a bug report about the > 'Erase disk' problem. > > Make Startup Disk fails to wipe disk, Bug #1485417 (and there are more > similar bug reports in the long list). > This is indeed some issues wi

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Den 2015-09-17 kl. 17:47, skrev Marc Deslauriers: > On 2015-09-17 11:26 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: >> Den 2015-09-17 kl. 16:35, skrev Marc Deslauriers: >>> Hi! >>> >>> On 2015-09-17 10:24 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: Hi subscribers to the ubuntu-quality mailing list, >> ,,, >> >>> Care to elaborate what

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Den 2015-09-17 kl. 17:24, skrev Marc Deslauriers: > On 2015-09-17 11:13 AM, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: >> Marc Deslauriers: >>> Care to elaborate what the many bugs are? >> >> They are these: >> >> >> And nearly all of them break the basic

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

On 2015-09-17 11:26 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > Den 2015-09-17 kl. 16:35, skrev Marc Deslauriers: >> Hi! >> >> On 2015-09-17 10:24 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: >>> Hi subscribers to the ubuntu-quality mailing list, > ,,, > >> Care to elaborate what the many bugs are? I use it every single day for >> testi

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

I use SDC in a regular Basis and have not had any issues when creating a bootable USB drive from an Ubuntu ISO in any of the last 3 Ubuntu releases. When looking at the bug list most bugs are for Ubuntu releases that are not supported anymore or the bugs are not even related to SDC. This list sh

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

On 2015-09-17 11:13 AM, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: > Marc Deslauriers: >> Care to elaborate what the many bugs are? > > They are these: > > > And nearly all of them break the basic functionality of the disk creator. > > Most of those b

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Den 2015-09-17 kl. 16:35, skrev Marc Deslauriers: > Hi! > > On 2015-09-17 10:24 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: >> Hi subscribers to the ubuntu-quality mailing list, ,,, > Care to elaborate what the many bugs are? I use it every single day for > testing > security updates on real hardware and since bug 1

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Marc Deslauriers: Care to elaborate what the many bugs are? They are these: And nearly all of them break the basic functionality of the disk creator. -- Ubuntu-quality mailing list Ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or uns

Re: replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Hi! On 2015-09-17 10:24 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > Hi subscribers to the ubuntu-quality mailing list, > > I posted the following comment about the Startup Disk Creator after a > reminder today, that bug #1325801 is still alive. > > --- > The poor Startup Disk Creator has been suffering from many b

replacing the Startup Disk Creator

Hi subscribers to the ubuntu-quality mailing list, I posted the following comment about the Startup Disk Creator after a reminder today, that bug #1325801 is still alive. --- The poor Startup Disk Creator has been suffering from many bugs for many years now, and in spite of great efforts, our dev