Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Wed, May 22, 2013, at 09:25 AM, Hartmut Noack wrote: Am 22.05.2013 07:53, schrieb Len Ovens: This is an interesting project. To be frank: interesting project is quite bold a description for installing more than one DE in Linux. It would be interesting though, if the US-packages would

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Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Wed, May 22, 2013, at 05:23 PM, Hartmut Noack wrote: Am 22.05.2013 16:12, schrieb Kaj Ailomaa: On Wed, May 22, 2013, at 09:25 AM, Hartmut Noack wrote: Am 22.05.2013 07:53, schrieb Len Ovens: This is an interesting project. To be frank: interesting project is quite bold a description

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Hartmut Noack
Am 22.05.2013 18:38, schrieb Kaj Ailomaa: On Wed, May 22, 2013, at 05:23 PM, Hartmut Noack wrote: Am 22.05.2013 16:12, schrieb Kaj Ailomaa: On Wed, May 22, 2013, at 09:25 AM, Hartmut Noack wrote: Am 22.05.2013 07:53, schrieb Len Ovens: This is an interesting project. To be frank:

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Getting audio working for audio production, with some bloated desktop environments is not very useful. Some desktop environemts do start a chunk of services by default to automagically enable usage for many things, so the user needs to customize those desktops for audio work, or somebody from the

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Eric Hedekar
This really was one of the most dramatic train/thread derailments I've seen in a while. Impressive. As far as other desktop environments are concerned, part of me is in favour of this mindset being adopted (as I've never left gnome despite Ubuntu Studio's switch to xfce - I just don't like that

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Hartmut Noack
Am 22.05.2013 20:09, schrieb Eric Hedekar: This really was one of the most dramatic train/thread derailments I've seen in a while. Impressive. As far as other desktop environments are concerned, part of me is in favour of this mindset being adopted (as I've never left gnome despite Ubuntu

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Wed, May 22, 2013, at 08:09 PM, Eric Hedekar wrote: This really was one of the most dramatic train/thread derailments I've seen in a while. Impressive. As far as other desktop environments are concerned, part of me is in favour of this mindset being adopted (as I've never left gnome

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread lukefromdc
Concerning multiple DE's: What about Cinnamon? Of all DE's I've tried, it is the one that can be configured to look and feel the most like the Ubuntustudio desktop I knew and loved in 2008. When using the GNOME theme in Cinnamon with the UbuntuStudio-legacy icons and GTK 3/2 theme I privately

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Wed, May 22, 2013, at 10:09 PM, Jimmy Sjölund wrote: Hi, this is my first post to the mailing list. So bare with me for a short introduction. When I discovered Ubuntu Studio some years ago I only had access to a very old pc and a quite old laptop. However I was able to record some songs

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Hartmut Noack
Am 22.05.2013 22:09, schrieb Jimmy Sjölund: Hi, this is my first post to the mailing list. So bare with me for a short introduction. When I discovered Ubuntu Studio some years ago I only had access to a very old pc and a quite old laptop. However I was able to record some songs on it, but

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Len Ovens
On Wed, May 22, 2013 10:32 am, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Getting audio working for audio production, with some bloated desktop environments is not very useful. Some desktop environemts do start a chunk of services by default to automagically enable usage for many things, so the user needs to

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-05-22 at 21:29 +0200, Hartmut Noack wrote: 8Gig RAM In a throw-away-society nearly every Microsoft and Apple fan has got such computers. Linux and especially Ubuntu have got another philosophy. Computers with all that's needed for everybody, so much older gear must be supported too.

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Len Ovens
On Wed, May 22, 2013 12:25 am, Hartmut Noack wrote: Am 22.05.2013 07:53, schrieb Len Ovens: This is an interesting project. To be frank: interesting project is quite bold a description for installing more than one DE in Linux. It would be interesting though, if the US-packages would fail to

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Len Ovens
On Wed, May 22, 2013 11:09 am, Eric Hedekar wrote: However, what Hartmut may have been trying to state was that this is development is probably not the best use of developer's time. If it is what is within the developers capabilities and interests, why not? remember none of us are paid for

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Len Ovens
Am 22.05.2013 22:09, schrieb Jimmy Sjölund: First of all, Ubuntu Studio is not a pro audio distribution. It's for all multimedia content creation. I have always considered US as a pro audio distribution, why not? Real :) I think the intent of the remark is that ubuntustudio is not only

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Ubuntu Studio Precise and Ubuntu Studio Quantal: [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ sudo lmount -w u1.precise [sudo] password for rocketmouse: [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ sudo lmount -w qrc [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat /mnt/u1.precise/usr/bin/qjackctl #!/bin/sh # laucher.sh - Disable PulseAudio before

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Wed, May 22, 2013, at 11:42 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Ubuntu Studio Precise and Ubuntu Studio Quantal: [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ sudo lmount -w u1.precise [sudo] password for rocketmouse: [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ sudo lmount -w qrc [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-05-22 at 14:34 -0700, Len Ovens wrote: Am 22.05.2013 22:09, schrieb Jimmy Sjölund: First of all, Ubuntu Studio is not a pro audio distribution. It's for all multimedia content creation. I have always considered US as a pro audio distribution, why not? Real :) I

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Len Ovens
On Wed, May 22, 2013 2:49 pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2013-05-22 at 14:34 -0700, Len Ovens wrote: Am 22.05.2013 22:09, schrieb Jimmy Sjölund: First of all, Ubuntu Studio is not a pro audio distribution. It's for all multimedia content creation. I have always considered US as

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Hartmut Noack
Am 22.05.2013 22:59, schrieb Ralf Mardorf: On Wed, 2013-05-22 at 21:29 +0200, Hartmut Noack wrote: 8Gig RAM In a throw-away-society nearly every Microsoft and Apple fan has got such computers. I will not apologize for not having anachronistic hardware. RAM is cheap, Computers are cheap,

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-05-22 at 13:44 -0700, Len Ovens wrote: If I was going to use scripts, I would use jack_control which can do anything qjackctl can do I prefer aj-snapshot, but IIRC even aj-snapshot can't provide everything you can do using qjackctl. Card 0: RME AIO S/N 0x579bcc at 0xfddf, irq

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Len Ovens
On Wed, May 22, 2013 3:37 pm, Hartmut Noack wrote: Anyway *my* philosophy is, that a free operating system should offer the means to tweak it to run on lesser hardware too but there is absolutely no point in expecting an anachronistic Computer on the desk of a Linux user. In fact I find

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-05-23 at 00:37 +0200, Hartmut Noack wrote: So that is the philosophy you read behind making a Desktop that depends on 3d-accelleration. Interesting. No, I only said what's the philosophy of Ubuntu, I wasn't talking about my philosophy: System requirements The system requirements

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Hartmut Noack
Am 22.05.2013 23:28, schrieb Len Ovens: On Wed, May 22, 2013 11:09 am, Eric Hedekar wrote: However, what Hartmut may have been trying to state was that this is development is probably not the best use of developer's time. If it is what is within the developers capabilities and interests,

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Hartmut Noack
Am 23.05.2013 00:39, schrieb Ralf Mardorf: On Wed, 2013-05-22 at 13:44 -0700, Len Ovens wrote: If I was going to use scripts, I would use jack_control which can do anything qjackctl can do I prefer aj-snapshot, but IIRC even aj-snapshot can't provide everything you can do using qjackctl.

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Hartmut Noack
Am 22.05.2013 23:22, schrieb Len Ovens: On Wed, May 22, 2013 12:25 am, Hartmut Noack wrote: Am 22.05.2013 07:53, schrieb Len Ovens: This is an interesting project. To be frank: interesting project is quite bold a description for installing more than one DE in Linux. It would be interesting

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-05-23 at 01:10 +0200, Hartmut Noack wrote: And that team is in charge, is it not? Thats why I ask you for help, as I did in many other places too. My hope is, that you do know those mages, who actually can fix the trouble and that you can point them to that problem and make them

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
The only NLE software I know, that might work on better Linux home machines and could do valid NLE, might be this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightworks it's said that it was used for the NLE of famous films. But where can we download the beta Linux version? The Internet claims that the film

NLE done with Blender, an April Fools' joke

2013-05-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?213656-Avatar-and-Blender Even if Blender should be used for a film like Avatar, then only for the 3D animation, but not the film editing. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at:

Re: Making Studio work with more than one DE

2013-05-22 Thread lukefromdc
Kdenlive is a nonlinear video editor. I use it routinely for making news videos. Although I only publish the 720p versions over Liveleak, the archived 1080p versions are of good quality. I've never used any of the nonfree editors (lightworks included), so I can't compare it to them.