Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-30 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015, at 04:29 PM, pub...@sakrecoer.com wrote: > 2015-10-30 16:19 skrev Kaj Ailomaa: > > > I will still need to improve sections we have for new contributors, > > make > > it as easy as possible for anyone to get involved. Once I've done that, > > I'll prepare some text, and

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-30 Thread public
2015-10-30 16:19 skrev Kaj Ailomaa: I will still need to improve sections we have for new contributors, make it as easy as possible for anyone to get involved. Once I've done that, I'll prepare some text, and start posting. This will be the first time we do this much noise about it, and to be

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread Jimmy Sjölund
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Does anybody expect to find contributors by social network presence? > > Yes, there are already users posting to the page or about Ubuntu Studio on Facebook for instance. Some of them might consider

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 12:21:05 +0100, set wrote: >I met you Ralf, on the very social public mailing list for Linux Audio >Users :) It is not a social network and I'm not an official Ubuntu Studio contributor :p. I'm not a member of the church of Linux audio, but I have other reasons to wish that

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread set
On 2015-10-29 12:16, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PublicRelationsDocumentation > > So "support" in this context isn't "support" in the sense of helping > users to fix issues with Linux and user space?! > It's just my guess, but because support ultimately is the

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread set
On 2015-10-29 13:02, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > It is not a social network and I'm not an official Ubuntu Studio > contributor :p. It's a network of emails, with people, socializing around a theme. But we could argue about the definition's finesses back and forth ad infinitum. > I'm not a member of

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread set
On 2015-10-29 16:57, set wrote: > a simple translation from negative sentenses to positive. > I'll get back to you when i have it done! Unless of course, you want to do it? -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at:

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
>> The reasons might help to find contributors (and to win more users): >> >> - Ubuntu is the most known major distro >> - Ubuntu has got a past and a future [1] >> - Ubuntu follows the user-friendly approach with all it's pros and >> cons. For Linux beginners just the pros of the user-friendly

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 17:02:27 +0100, set wrote: >On 2015-10-29 16:57, set wrote: >> a simple translation from negative sentenses to positive. >> I'll get back to you when i have it done! > >Unless of course, you want to do it? Not today, so please feel free to do it. I will read it and post my

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:57:46 +0100, set wrote: >Awesome! Ralf! I would very much like to reformulate some of it, with a >simple translation from negative sentenses to positive. I'll get back >to you when i have it done! I wouldn't keep the sentences that way myself ;). Pleas use those words to

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread set
On 2015-10-27 11:04, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > This is a job primarily for anyone who would be interested in helping > out with PR & Support, but we don't really have anyone doing that > specifically as of now. If anyone feels up to it, you may take the > initiative on this to develop it further.

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread lukefromdc
I agree with this. No way in Hell I would set up a machine for my sister with Debian Unstable, and not one of the Ubuntu flavors are involved in the whole Unity controversy. The needs of a hacker preferring a rolling release and those of a Window refugee are nearly opposite oneanother On

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread set
On 2015-10-29 18:22, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: > I agree with this. No way in Hell I would set up a machine for my sister with > Debian Unstable, and not one of the Ubuntu flavors are involved in the whole > Unity controversy. Please consider writing a guide on how to use ubuntustudio and

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread lukefromdc
One limiting factor will be that I do not have the bandwidth to download the latest .iso's to check installation details so I will have to refer to external postings for things like setting up encryption. None of the realtime audio issues affect making news audio or video, so many of the

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
> On 29.10.2015, at 21:43, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: > > torbrowser ... is useful for one kind of security, but for another kind of security sandboxing done by Chrome is useful. Not updating browsers could be very risky. -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
> On 29.10.2015, at 21:43, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: > > removal of EXIF metadata This indeed is useful, but there's other metadata for graphic too. It could be useful to make screenshots of graphic, to get rid of all kinds of metadata. -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread lukefromdc
You are so right about mobile phones and tablets-they are incredibly dangerous and thus I do not own one. Even a dumb phone is kept batteries out unless making a call, which has to be done from places my presence can be admitted to. When I think of online activism, I am speaking of organizing

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
> On 29.10.2015, at 19:37, set wrote: > >> On 2015-10-29 18:22, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: >> I agree with this. No way in Hell I would set up a machine for my sister with >> Debian Unstable, and not one of the Ubuntu flavors are involved in the whole >> Unity

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread lukefromdc
Simplest approach: US on a non-networked, encrypted desktop to make media and strip metadata that can identify cameras, plus a laptop used with TAILS to handle posting the materal from offsite connections. On 10/29/2015 at 4:47 PM, "Ralf Mardorf" wrote: > >> On

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread lukefromdc
An update of Firefox that diabled NoScript or Canvasblocker would make the browser no longer usable for security work. If the lack of updates is unsafe than NO version of Firefox would remain useful. On 10/29/2015 at 5:02 PM, "Ralf Mardorf" wrote: > >> On

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread set
On 2015-10-29 23:13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > The user can not simply use a distro to be secure, the user still needs > to learn how to use the distro. In terms of PR & Support, i think this is the only thing ubuntustudio really needs to be explaining. However, A good selection of basic but sourced

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread set
On 2015-10-28 23:52, set wrote: > blablabla zombr ands brains... Not sure i came through correct yesterday. My apologies. The bottom-line i feel that i left out is that, i will ask around my entourage. I don't really know how to recruit engage people in any other form than Away >From Keyboard. I

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread Jordan Vashey
I can get a Facebook page going with some crazy graphics haha Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 29, 2015, at 05:31, set wrote: > >> On 2015-10-28 23:52, set wrote: >> blablabla zombr ands brains... > > Not sure i came through correct yesterday. My apologies. The bottom-line >

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread set
On 2015-10-29 11:09, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I tested Krita as a replacement for GIMP. Krita is completely unusable. > It's missing features and the performance is much to slow. Strange, i use it very much and never had to complain about anything. I actually have got a design studio in barcelona to

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 10:31:17 +0100, set wrote: >I personally don't feel comfortable with socialnetworks, but i see why >it is necessary to have a presence there and encourage anyone who using >them to give a bump for the ubuntustudio-cause whenever possible! Ubuntu is as known as Jesus Christ,

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 05:36:11 -0400, Jordan Vashey wrote: >I can get a Facebook page going with some crazy graphics haha Is it meant ironically? https://www.facebook.com/Ubuntustudio More than one official location for each social network you want to use is enough, several official locations in

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PublicRelationsDocumentation So "support" in this context isn't "support" in the sense of helping users to fix issues with Linux and user space?! -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at:

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-29 Thread set
On 2015-10-29 12:06, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Does anybody expect to find contributors by social network presence? I sure have found many motivated and creative friends thru IRC and billboards. Heck! I met you Ralf, on the very social public mailing list for Linux Audio Users :) Misunderstand me

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 12:14:19 +0100, Jimmy Sjölund wrote: >There would be no Ubuntu Studio without social networks. Ubuntu is a major distro and as for many other major distros too, a multimedia port in spite of itself grow up. I doubt that the big social networks are useful for anything good on

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-28 Thread Jimmy Sjölund
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Regarding social networks my guess is, that those are used by a > majority of people who don't use a computer as a meaningful tool. > > Does Ubuntu Studio need a target group of idiots and xenophobes? > > >

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-28 Thread Finn Solly
ok 2015-10-27 20:41 GMT+01:00 set : > On 2015-10-27 11:04, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > > Where else? > reddit? > > I think we should publish more often on the ubuntustudio-website, and > have those articles/that content be syndicated to all the > social-networks automagicaly with

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-28 Thread lukefromdc
The commercial. ad-supported social networks are so dangerous that I not only do not use them but actually block both Google and facebook in /etc/hosts. I've even asked people I work with not to post photos containing me to Facebook due to their facial recognition database. It would seem to be

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-28 Thread set
On 2015-10-28 18:29, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: > On 10/28/2015 at 8:31 AM, "Ralf Mardorf" wrote: >> On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 12:14:19 +0100, Jimmy Sjölund wrote: ye.. well. i moved my list stuff from gmail to skrcr~/ as you may have noticed. :D Reddit is what it is:

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-28 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
To the best of my knowledge, reddit is just as universal as any other big social site. Citing wikipedia: "Reddit (/ˈrɛdɪt/)[5] is an entertainment, social networking, and news website where registered community members can submit content, such as text posts or direct links, making it essentially

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-28 Thread set
On 2015-10-29 00:04, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > How about video and graphics? http://blenderartists.org/forum/ https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=136 http://gimpforums.com/ http://www.inkscapeforum.com/ http://forums.scribus.net/ Are probably good places. :) *Set -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-28 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015, at 08:41 PM, set wrote: > On 2015-10-27 11:04, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > > Where else? > reddit? > I have very little experience with reddit, so I wouldn't know where to start. How would we publish stuff in reddit? > I think we should publish more often on the

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 09:58:18 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: >On Tue, Oct 27, 2015, at 08:41 PM, set wrote: >> On 2015-10-27 11:04, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: >> > Where else? >> reddit? >> > >I have very little experience with reddit, so I wouldn't know where to >start. How would we publish stuff in

[ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-27 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
This is a job primarily for anyone who would be interested in helping out with PR & Support, but we don't really have anyone doing that specifically as of now. If anyone feels up to it, you may take the initiative on this to develop it further. The pages dealing with PR and Support are found

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-27 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015, at 01:05 PM, Jordan Vashey wrote: > Should create an IRC. > > Sent from my iPhone > We have our IRC channels at freenode, and you're welcome to join them. You can read more here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/IRC But, are you suggesting we try find

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-27 Thread Jordan Vashey
Should create an IRC. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 27, 2015, at 06:04, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > > This is a job primarily for anyone who would be interested in helping > out with PR & Support, but we don't really have anyone doing that > specifically as of now. If anyone

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR & Support: Where to fish for contributors?

2015-10-27 Thread set
On 2015-10-27 11:04, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > Where else? reddit? I think we should publish more often on the ubuntustudio-website, and have those articles/that content be syndicated to all the social-networks automagicaly with rss. But in general, make more noise about what is going on in