Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-25 Thread Brian David
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 2:22 AM, wrote: > Hello, > > thank you for your efforts and input! I personally like the lighter > versions better. Maybe because I live in an area that is currently getting > darker every day, therefore I like a lighter design. > > Thanks again! > > Sincerely, > Stefan >

AW: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-25 Thread saearea-test
Von: Brian David An: Ubuntu Studio Development & Technical Discussion Gesendet: Montag, den 25. Oktober 2010, 2:29:07 Uhr Betreff: Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website) Alright, I've finished

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-24 Thread Mike Holstein
i really appreciate the efforts going on here... this wiki page is great https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TaskWebRevamp ...seems like we have some great ideas to choose from... thank you to everyone submitting ideas... 'impact' and 'audio horizons' both are looking great to me, and very 'ready

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-24 Thread Brian David
Alright, I've finished the next updates on my theme. It has been converted to a dark theme (using some of the more flashy graphics I have been working on. I felt the flat colors of the light theme just didn't work well in the dark version), and I've separated it into a landing page and a content

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-21 Thread Brian David
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Chris Jones wrote: > On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 17:25 -0500, Brian David wrote: > > Hey everyone, while working an updated mock-up for my website theme, I > > came up with an idea for an Ubuntu Studio wallpaper. It looks like > > this: > > > > http://www.sunmachine.coo

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-21 Thread Chris Jones
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 17:25 -0500, Brian David wrote: > Hey everyone, while working an updated mock-up for my website theme, I > came up with an idea for an Ubuntu Studio wallpaper. It looks like > this: > > http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/amp_thumbnail.png > > The pic is of an older amplifier

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-20 Thread Brian David
Hey everyone, while working an updated mock-up for my website theme, I came up with an idea for an Ubuntu Studio wallpaper. It looks like this: http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/amp_thumbnail.png The pic is of an older amplifier I use for my turntable. This image is just a thumbnail, and not us

AW: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-19 Thread saearea-test
Von: Benjamin Turner An: Ubuntu Studio Development & Technical Discussion Gesendet: Samstag, den 16. Oktober 2010, 19:29:30 Uhr Betreff: Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website) Hi Benjamin! > >Ve

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-17 Thread Brian David
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Scott Lavender wrote: > > > Brian, > > Sorry it has taken so long to reply. Just been very, very busy, man. > > *SNIP* > > I hope this answers your questions. Please let me know if you have other > questions or concerns. > > ScottL > > Thanks, Scott, that's a pr

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-17 Thread Scott Lavender
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Brian David wrote: > > I'm not sure if this is directed at Benjamin or me, or perhaps both. > Regardless, I could apply either suggestion to my design. > > However, I would like to get back to the question of decision making for > this process. It would be helpfu

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-16 Thread Benjamin Turner
> > Hi Benjamin! > > Very cool! I like it a lot and would like to learn whether all your > creations were done using Ubuntu Studio applications? > For example, one can create a great looking image in GIMP resembling a > website, but how does one proceed further. Which tools would one use to turn >

AW: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-16 Thread saearea-test
Von: Benjamin Turner An: Ubuntu Studio Development & Technical Discussion Gesendet: Samstag, den 16. Oktober 2010, 17:53:40 Uhr Betreff: Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website) I updated the revamp wik

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-16 Thread Benjamin Turner
I updated the revamp wiki to include a fictionalized "target audience" - his name is James! I do this profile creation a lot when I'm working on a project -- kind of puts a face to who I'm trying to design for. Anyway, I tried to create a person that we want to be using Ubuntu Studio (even though

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-14 Thread Chris Jones
> However, I would like to get back to the question of decision making > for this process. It would be helpful for me, and probably others, to > know exactly what approach Scott plans to take for making the ultimate > decision here, and in what time frame. This is what I keep saying. Scott, I'm s

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-13 Thread Brian David
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Scott Lavender wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Benjamin Turner < > passionsplaydes...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thinking further on it I have two requests. > > Can you try to use some of the "official" colors? Perhaps use the first > blue from this page?

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-13 Thread Brian David
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Benjamin Turner < passionsplaydes...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Brian > > I'm liking the structural elements, specifically how the logo is front and > center, anchoring the whole page. > > One thing that feels just a bit off to me is that the colors are all so > close

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-11 Thread Scott Lavender
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Benjamin Turner < passionsplaydes...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > I just wanted to let people know I posted some changes to the website > revamp wiki to include mockups for the homepage and secondary pages. I'm > working under the theme name 'Audio Horizons'

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-10 Thread Louie Queral
this is kind of random, but who has all of the ftp info? does scott? On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Benjamin Turner < passionsplaydes...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Brian David wrote: > >> Alright, here's my next go at it: >> >> http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/moc

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-10 Thread Benjamin Turner
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Brian David wrote: > Alright, here's my next go at it: > > http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/mock-up_simple_2.png > > I tried to add a little of all the designs we've seen so far. Think of > this as the landing page, with the main site looking more along the lines

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-10 Thread Benjamin Turner
Hello all, I just wanted to let people know I posted some changes to the website revamp wiki to include mockups for the homepage and secondary pages. I'm working under the theme name 'Audio Horizons' with two .pngs following the borderlands theme. Thanks for any feedback! https://wiki.ubuntu.co

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-08 Thread Chris Jones
On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 23:59 -0500, Brian David wrote: > Alright, here's my next go at it: > > http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/mock-up_simple_2.png > > I tried to add a little of all the designs we've seen so far. Think > of this as the landing page, with the main site looking more along the >

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-08 Thread Brian David
Alright, here's my next go at it: http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/mock-up_simple_2.png I tried to add a little of all the designs we've seen so far. Think of this as the landing page, with the main site looking more along the lines of Scott's mock-up, except with a matching palette. Also, I d

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-05 Thread Scott Lavender
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Benjamin Turner < passionsplaydes...@gmail.com> wrote: > In response to Scott's original mockup: > http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/images/website-mockup-3.png > > Good work Scott! > > So, starting with what works: > > 1) I like that things have been moved up

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-05 Thread Benjamin Turner
In response to Scott's original mockup: http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/images/website-mockup-3.png Good work Scott! So, starting with what works: 1) I like that things have been moved up the page. The old site was pretty, but simple, with specific information at least a scroll's length

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-05 Thread Scott Lavender
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Brian David wrote: > On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Scott Lavender > wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Benjamin Turner < >> passionsplaydes...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I hope to address some of the questions in this email later this week. >> >> Properly

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-05 Thread Jussi Schultink
Hi Takashi, On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:25 AM, Takashi Sakamoto wrote: > Hi Scott, > > In this kind of work, the screenshot is more powerful to give our > opinion than some comments. Would you please look at the screenshot I > attached? Ive let your message through this time, but in future, please l

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-04 Thread Chris Jones
> > However, in that fashion I have been working on this mock-up for the > past two weeks while exploring audience and purpose: > http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/images/website-mockup-3.png > > I trust that most people will find this mock-up far superior to my > last one ;) > > Comments

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-04 Thread Brian David
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Scott Lavender wrote: > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Benjamin Turner < > passionsplaydes...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I hope to address some of the questions in this email later this week. > > Properly identifying the audience and the purpose of the website is > cri

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-10-03 Thread Scott Lavender
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Benjamin Turner < passionsplaydes...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I would second not throwing out any concepts right off the bat. I think > though that perhaps we should redirect where this thread is going. Before > we get down to eliminating or zeroing in on any 'theme

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-09-21 Thread Benjamin Turner
> > >> * DIY theme * >> Rather than deny an artistic concept with a blanket statement I would >> suggest that we value any examples by their merits individually. I would >> imagine that some DIY concepts might present themselves as unprofessional, >> while others would extend themselves as hip or

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-09-20 Thread Brian David
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Scott Lavender wrote: > > Brian, > > * comic book sketch * > Your sketch is pretty cool. I like it. This is something that could be be > used for a GDM background or desktop wallpaper when completed. > > Personally, I would favour using user derived art and grap

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-09-20 Thread Scott Lavender
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Brian David wrote: > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Louie Queral wrote: > >> Scott: If we made everything the DIY look, I think it would become too >> cluttered and gimmicky. I think it should be clean and clear. I'm a >> musician, and I look at US like a desk

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-09-18 Thread Brian David
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Louie Queral wrote: > Scott: If we made everything the DIY look, I think it would become too > cluttered and gimmicky. I think it should be clean and clear. I'm a > musician, and I look at US like a desk: I would rather have my desk be a > solid color, with no ble

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-09-16 Thread Louie Queral
Scott: If we made everything the DIY look, I think it would become too cluttered and gimmicky. I think it should be clean and clear. I'm a musician, and I look at US like a desk: I would rather have my desk be a solid color, with no blemishes to help me think and finish my project. If my desk was c

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-09-16 Thread Scott Lavender
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Louie Queral wrote: > This is off-topic, but still, in my mind, a relatively important point. > > I really don't like the DIY theme for either the OS as a whole or US's > website. I think that it makes it look a bit too unprofessional and it may > detract people f

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-09-16 Thread Mike Holstein
what is the 'do it yourself' theme? the current graphics and theming? i quite like the theme of the desktop... when i first saw it, i thought it was the slickest thing since the fedora DNA theme... i like the website too.. i suppose both of these are arguably out-dated, hence the discussion... wha

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-09-16 Thread Louie Queral
This is off-topic, but still, in my mind, a relatively important point. I really don't like the DIY theme for either the OS as a whole or US's website. I think that it makes it look a bit too unprofessional and it may detract people from using US. Would anyone agree? On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:07

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-09-15 Thread Brian David
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Scott Lavender wrote: > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 5:00 AM, Cory K. wrote: > >> What *needs* to be settled 1st before *anything* should be put together >> is: Audience - Who we're talking to. >> >> It's a major first step from which everything is built. >> >> If Scot

Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-09-13 Thread Scott Lavender
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 5:00 AM, Cory K. wrote: > What *needs* to be settled 1st before *anything* should be put together > is: Audience - Who we're talking to. > > It's a major first step from which everything is built. > > If Scott hasn't already done it, he should start a wiki page outlining >

Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)

2010-09-10 Thread Cory K.
What *needs* to be settled 1st before *anything* should be put together is: Audience - Who we're talking to. It's a major first step from which everything is built. If Scott hasn't already done it, he should start a wiki page outlining our audiance and new direction. Aesthetic/stylistic guideli