Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy Issues

2008-04-17 Thread Stephen O'Neill
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Smith wrote: | Alan Pope wrote: | On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 16:38 +0100, Chris Smith wrote: | - The brightness adjusts itself for power saving I assume but its | totally erratic and generally annoying. | | Have you tweaked the settings in Gnome

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy Issues

2008-04-17 Thread Stephen O'Neill
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Smith wrote: | - The brightness adjusts itself for power saving I assume but its | totally erratic and generally annoying. Are your symptoms anything like those in this thread? I'm going to have a look at my laptop when I get home...

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy Issues

2008-04-17 Thread Andrew Oakley
Stephen O'Neill wrote: Chris Smith wrote: | - The brightness adjusts itself for power saving I assume but its | totally erratic and generally annoying. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=581335 In power preferences, in AC options the slider is for Set display brightness and it's on

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy Issues

2008-04-17 Thread Chris Smith
Chris Smith wrote: Just updating now will see what's what afterwards. Well I found another issue. With the reduce backlight brightness option ticked for battery power. If I remove the AC cord it dims, plug it back in again it gets brighter. If I keep repeating the 2 states get progressively less

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy Issues

2008-04-17 Thread Andrew Oakley
Chris Smith wrote: Well I found another issue. With the reduce backlight brightness option ticked for battery power. If I remove the AC cord it dims, plug it back in again it gets brighter. If I keep repeating the 2 states get progressively less bright after doing this 4 times battery is set

[ubuntu-uk] Manchester Digitial Development Agency

2008-04-17 Thread Dianne Reuby
If anyone's near Manchester, MDDA may be interested in your Ubuntu projects, publicity, etc. http://www.manchesterdda.com/ Dianne Reuby Collections Manager Museum of Computing @ Swindon http://www.museum-of-computing.org.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Digitial Development Agency

2008-04-17 Thread Lucy
On 17/04/2008, Dianne Reuby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone's near Manchester, MDDA may be interested in your Ubuntu projects, publicity, etc. http://www.manchesterdda.com/ Thanks Dianne. The Manchester free software group currently use the MDDA for their monthly meetings, but it hadn't

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz and gtk-window-decorator

2008-04-17 Thread Tan Xuan You
Hi Ben, I tried reinstalling compiz as suggested, even with removing all libraries and packages listed and reinstalling them, but to no avail. On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 00:19 +0100, Ben wrote: Hi i had the same problem and i resolved it by reinstalling compiz did urs just start or was it

[ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Farran
hi everyone been having LOTS of issues with my newly built pc - runs smoothly most of the time, but does really random things: freezes for no reason, compiz dying for no visible reason etc, and it's taken to booting up in just under 10 minutes if I'm lucky. 4-core processor, 2GB ram, 1GB

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread matt
Are you sure this isn't a hardware issue? Could it be overheating/a drive DOA? What components are you using, as there may be issues relating to drivers that are causing the instability. As to the Installing Ubuntu like Gentoo thing I have absolutely no idea, but I suspect not. Mj Quoting

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread andylockran
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sure this isn't a hardware issue? Could it be overheating/a drive DOA? What components are you using, as there may be issues relating to drivers that are causing the instability. As to the Installing Ubuntu like

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Farran
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 14:18 +0100, andylockran wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sure this isn't a hardware issue? Could it be overheating/a drive DOA? What components are you using, as there may be issues relating to drivers that

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Lucy
On 17/04/2008, Farran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt: there's the possibilty that there's a problem with the ram - one chip was bad, so I can't even use it, but the other might be damaged a bit too (don't know if that's posisble ). If the ram is damaged if can cause lots of random problems.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Farran
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 15:18 +0100, Lucy wrote: On 17/04/2008, Farran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt: there's the possibilty that there's a problem with the ram - one chip was bad, so I can't even use it, but the other might be damaged a bit too (don't know if that's posisble ). If

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Lucy
On 17/04/2008, Farran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 15:18 +0100, Lucy wrote: On 17/04/2008, Farran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt: there's the possibilty that there's a problem with the ram - one chip was bad, so I can't even use it, but the other might be damaged a bit

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Farran
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 15:45 +0100, Lucy wrote: On 17/04/2008, Farran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 15:18 +0100, Lucy wrote: On 17/04/2008, Farran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt: there's the possibilty that there's a problem with the ram - one chip was bad, so I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Huw Selley
On 17 Apr 2008, at 14:01, Farran wrote: snip Anyway, I was wondering if it's possible to install ubuntu from source, like you would with gentoo (I think that's right), where every package installs itself to work with your hardware perfectly... or does that completely defy the idea of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
... it also reckons I have no updates, but it's been at least two months since I last went on the net :/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
I sent this just now but it wouldn't go through because the file was too large. Not been moderated yet: I'm back, that was a lot quicker than I expected. Okay, spec: 2GB OCZ SLI approved nVidia memory 1024mb SLI nVidia 8600GTS graphics card Intel core 2 duo q6600 G0 Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Lucy
On 17/04/2008, Farran Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sent this just now but it wouldn't go through because the file was too large. Not been moderated yet: I'm back, that was a lot quicker than I expected. Okay, spec: 2GB OCZ SLI approved nVidia memory 1024mb SLI nVidia 8600GTS

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Johnathon Tinsley
- Farran Lee wrote: ... it also reckons I have no updates, but it's been at least two months since I last went on the net :/ Open a terminal, and run sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade -y That will check for updates, and upgrade them (without asking if you really want to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 16:27 +0100, Andrew Oakley wrote: Farran wrote: I did actually run a memtest for almost a whole day, passing 8 times with no errors Therefore I would strongly suspect your CPU is overheating. When most modern CPUs overheat, they automatically slow themselves down

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 16:21 +0100, Lucy wrote: On 17/04/2008, Farran Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sent this just now but it wouldn't go through because the file was too large. Not been moderated yet: I'm back, that was a lot quicker than I expected. Okay, spec: 2GB OCZ SLI

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Johnathon Tinsley
- Farran Lee wrote: sorry, didn't realise :/ here's the pastebin http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7295/ From the looks of that (and I've not had too much practise looking at logs) there's a lot of ata exceptions... which makes me think harddrive... might be worth stress testing your

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Thomas Ibbotson
Andrew Oakley wrote: Finally, if everything else is fine, then your motherboard is probably b0rked, sorry (rare, but I have seen it happen twice in 20 years). I'm pretty sure the last motherboard I had died. It would take many attempts to boot up (it would spin up the CD drives over and

[ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread andylockran
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Oakley wrote that he'd only had two motherboards die in the last 20 years. I've not been so lucky, putting down around 5 of my PCs failings to the motherboard dying (albeit through some kind of PSU surge in a couple of cases). So how common

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 17:06 +0100, andylockran wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Oakley wrote that he'd only had two motherboards die in the last 20 years. I've not been so lucky, putting down around 5 of my PCs failings to the motherboard dying (albeit

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Johnathon Tinsley
- Farran Lee wrote: not as far as I know - I'm only just getting to grips with the hardware side of computing. Is it obvious? Does the mb just not boot at all? I've seen it once, when the capacators fail on a motherboard, its pretty much useless. You can tell, by if they bulge

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 17:21 +0100, Johnathon Tinsley wrote: - Farran Lee wrote: not as far as I know - I'm only just getting to grips with the hardware side of computing. Is it obvious? Does the mb just not boot at all? I've seen it once, when the capacators fail on a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Andrew Oakley
Farran Lee wrote: On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 17:06 +0100, andylockran wrote: So how common is it? Have you had a motherboard die on you? not as far as I know - I'm only just getting to grips with the hardware side of computing. Is it obvious? Does the mb just not boot at all? The main problem

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 17:31 +0100, Andrew Oakley wrote: Farran Lee wrote: On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 17:06 +0100, andylockran wrote: So how common is it? Have you had a motherboard die on you? not as far as I know - I'm only just getting to grips with the hardware side of computing. Is it

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread matt
Quoting Johnathon Tinsley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Farran Lee wrote: not as far as I know - I'm only just getting to grips with the hardware side of computing. Is it obvious? Does the mb just not boot at all? I've seen it once, when the capacators fail on a motherboard, its

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Andrew Oakley
Farran Lee wrote: lots of people have had problems with the same motherboard. I'd call that a fairly massive hint, and other than hard drive failure, I'd say we're coming to the end of the list of possibilties. Update the motherboard BIOS, and if it still won't play, swap it out for a spare

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 17:44 +0100, Andrew Oakley wrote: Farran Lee wrote: lots of people have had problems with the same motherboard. I'd call that a fairly massive hint, and other than hard drive failure, I'd say we're coming to the end of the list of possibilties. Update the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Thomas Ibbotson
Farran Lee wrote: I mentioned earlier that lots of people had problems with my model mb, and it still didn't work after RMA, so I might have to pick a different one. If I did, would I have to completely reinstall the system? Or would it just need certain fixes?

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 17:50 +0100, Thomas Ibbotson wrote: Farran Lee wrote: I mentioned earlier that lots of people had problems with my model mb, and it still didn't work after RMA, so I might have to pick a different one. If I did, would I have to completely reinstall the system?

[ubuntu-uk] new compiz plugins

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
okay, successful update eventually... where's my two new compiz plugins? Screensaver and aquarium? Also, i have never had the 3d windows plugin either. Just wondering, looking forward to playing with them :( === Farran Lee I'm only 15 :P --

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Thomas Ibbotson
Farran Lee wrote: On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 17:50 +0100, Thomas Ibbotson wrote: Farran Lee wrote: I mentioned earlier that lots of people had problems with my model mb, and it still didn't work after RMA, so I might have to pick a different one. If I did, would I have to completely

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Chris Smith
Farran Lee wrote: okay, so I definitely won't have to change anything? Somebody mentioned it somewhere... not here though. I've changed totally CPU, Motherboard and chipset and still had Ubuntu booting first time. Windows however... Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Chris Smith
andylockran wrote: Andrew Oakley wrote that he'd only had two motherboards die in the last 20 years. I've not been so lucky, putting down around 5 of my PCs failings to the motherboard dying (albeit through some kind of PSU surge in a couple of cases). So how common is it? Have you had

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy Issues

2008-04-17 Thread Chris Smith
Andrew Oakley wrote: This bug needs reporting. Can you check whether it is one of these existing bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/163678 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/164527 If so, please comment there, and if required change the status

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Tan, Xuan
Farran: been there, done that. =) When I was 15 I single-handedly fried three motherboards because I failed to notice the dark spot on the video card that had just toasted. I swapped the video card out to test (didn't have a spare video card, but had a few spare mobos with AGP slots in them

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 19:52 +0100, Tan, Xuan wrote: Farran: been there, done that. =) When I was 15 I single-handedly fried three motherboards because I failed to notice the dark spot on the video card that had just toasted. I swapped the video card out to test (didn't have a spare video

[ubuntu-uk] evolution smileys

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
stupid, trivial question: where's my smileys gone? I have automatically insert smileys ticked, but they don't show. === Farran Lee I'm only 15 :P -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] evolution smileys

2008-04-17 Thread Josh Blacker
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 19:58 +0100, Farran Lee wrote: stupid, trivial question: where's my smileys gone? I have automatically insert smileys ticked, but they don't how You may not have 'compose in html' ticked, which would have this effect (I checked). In any case, I think quite a few people

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 18:43 +0100, Chris Smith wrote: andylockran wrote: Andrew Oakley wrote that he'd only had two motherboards die in the last 20 years. I've not been so lucky, putting down around 5 of my PCs failings to the motherboard dying (albeit through some kind of PSU surge

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Steve Cook
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 21:29 +0100, Farran Lee wrote: slightly off the motherboard branch: just checked my system info, and it now says I have 1.9GB memory instead of 2! Definitely sending it back now... sysinfo doesn't report the correct size anyway, on my 768MB system it reports 757MB Steve

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread James Grabham
Is it not just that its stealing a bit for the Graphics? I have had a mobo die on me, but it was my fault, I'd been using a 300W PSU on a dual-core system (too lazy to go buy a new one)... didnt stop me claiming a new one off the warrenty though ;]... though I did get round to getting a 600w PSU

[ubuntu-uk] Anyone here into low-level stuff?

2008-04-17 Thread James Grabham
OK, so a couple of nights ago, someone from my LUG gave me a few old-ish books ('90s), anyway, theres a beginers guide to Assembly Language there. I started reading, and the first 3 chapters are just about Computer Science, and It's really interesting, Im learning about octal and hex, and other

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy Issues

2008-04-17 Thread Andrew Oakley
Chris Smith wrote: Well I found another issue. With the reduce backlight brightness option ticked for battery power. If I remove the AC cord it dims, plug it back in again it gets brighter. If I keep repeating the 2 states get progressively less bright after doing this 4 times battery is set

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anyone here into low-level stuff?

2008-04-17 Thread Andrew Oakley
James Grabham wrote: OK, so a couple of nights ago, someone from my LUG gave me a few old-ish books ('90s), anyway, theres a beginers guide to Assembly Language there. I started reading, and the first 3 chapters are just about Computer Science, and It's really interesting, Im learning

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anyone here into low-level stuff?

2008-04-17 Thread Matthew Wild
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:37 PM, Andrew Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Grabham wrote: OK, so a couple of nights ago, someone from my LUG gave me a few old-ish books ('90s), anyway, theres a beginers guide to Assembly Language there. I started reading, and the first 3 chapters

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread James Dalley
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 18:43 +0100, Chris Smith wrote: andylockran wrote: Andrew Oakley wrote that he'd only had two motherboards die in the last 20 years. I've not been so lucky, putting down around 5 of my PCs failings to the motherboard dying (albeit through some kind of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anyone here into low-level stuff?

2008-04-17 Thread James Grabham
gdgd, - I finally feel like a reel geek now XD On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Matthew Wild [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:37 PM, Andrew Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Grabham wrote: OK, so a couple of nights ago, someone from my LUG gave me a few

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anyone here into low-level stuff?

2008-04-17 Thread Tan, Xuan
Agree with Matthew. I've been coding for years now (most often in that piece of called VBScript for ASP pages), but only just started a proper course, which goes all the way from machine code to PIC to ARM to Pascal. It's given me much more insight as to what I've been doing all this

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy Issues

2008-04-17 Thread Chris Smith
Andrew Oakley wrote: Please can you check it, comment if it matches your experience (in particular, state that it happens on your Thinkpad, not just my Dell) and mark the bug as Confirmed. Thanks, Done. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Russell Green
You still have your 2GB of RAM.Just gfx is stealing some of it, and probably putting it to better use.;) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anyone here into low-level stuff?

2008-04-17 Thread Jim Kissel
James Grabham wrote: OK, so a couple of nights ago, someone from my LUG gave me a few old-ish books ('90s), anyway, theres a beginers guide to Assembly Language there. I started reading, and the first 3 chapters are just about Computer Science, and It's really interesting, Im learning about