Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anyone here into low-level stuff?

2008-04-17 Thread Jim Kissel
James Grabham wrote: > OK, so a couple of nights ago, someone from my LUG gave me a few old-ish > books ('90s), anyway, theres a beginers guide to Assembly Language there. I > started reading, and the first 3 chapters are just about Computer Science, > and It's really interesting, Im learning ab

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Russell Green
You still have your 2GB of RAM.Just gfx is stealing some of it, and probably putting it to better use.;) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy Issues

2008-04-17 Thread Chris Smith
Andrew Oakley wrote: > Please can you check it, comment if it matches your experience (in > particular, state that it happens on your Thinkpad, not just my Dell) > and mark the bug as Confirmed. Thanks, Done. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk ht

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anyone here into low-level stuff?

2008-04-17 Thread Tan, Xuan
Agree with Matthew. I've been coding for years now (most often in that piece of called VBScript for ASP pages), but only just started a proper course, which goes all the way from machine code to PIC to ARM to Pascal. It's given me much more insight as to what I've been doing all this time.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anyone here into low-level stuff?

2008-04-17 Thread James Grabham
gdgd, - I finally feel like a reel geek now XD On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Matthew Wild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:37 PM, Andrew Oakley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > James Grabham wrote: > > > OK, so a couple of nights ago, someone from my LUG gave me a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread James Dalley
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 18:43 +0100, Chris Smith wrote: andylockran wrote: > Andrew Oakley wrote that he'd only had two motherboards die in the > last 20 years. > > I've not been so lucky, putting down around 5 of my PCs failings to > the motherboard dying (albeit through some kin

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anyone here into low-level stuff?

2008-04-17 Thread Matthew Wild
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:37 PM, Andrew Oakley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > James Grabham wrote: > > OK, so a couple of nights ago, someone from my LUG gave me a few old-ish > > books ('90s), anyway, theres a beginers guide to Assembly Language > > there. I started reading, and the first 3 c

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anyone here into low-level stuff?

2008-04-17 Thread Andrew Oakley
James Grabham wrote: > OK, so a couple of nights ago, someone from my LUG gave me a few old-ish > books ('90s), anyway, theres a beginers guide to Assembly Language > there. I started reading, and the first 3 chapters are just about > Computer Science, and It's really interesting, Im learning a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy Issues

2008-04-17 Thread Andrew Oakley
Chris Smith wrote: > Well I found another issue. With the "reduce backlight brightness" > option ticked for battery power. If I remove the AC cord it dims, plug > it back in again it gets brighter. If I keep repeating the 2 states get > progressively less bright after doing this 4 times battery is

[ubuntu-uk] Anyone here into low-level stuff?

2008-04-17 Thread James Grabham
OK, so a couple of nights ago, someone from my LUG gave me a few old-ish books ('90s), anyway, theres a beginers guide to Assembly Language there. I started reading, and the first 3 chapters are just about Computer Science, and It's really interesting, Im learning about octal and hex, and other ma

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread James Grabham
Is it not just that its stealing a bit for the Graphics? I have had a mobo die on me, but it was my fault, I'd been using a 300W PSU on a dual-core system (too lazy to go buy a new one)... didnt stop me claiming a new one off the warrenty though ;]... though I did get round to getting a 600w PSU =

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Steve Cook
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 21:29 +0100, Farran Lee wrote: > slightly off the motherboard branch: just checked my system info, and > it now says I have 1.9GB memory instead of 2! Definitely sending it > back now... sysinfo doesn't report the correct size anyway, on my 768MB system it reports 757MB Ste

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 18:43 +0100, Chris Smith wrote: > andylockran wrote: > > Andrew Oakley wrote that he'd only had two motherboards die in the > > last 20 years. > > > > I've not been so lucky, putting down around 5 of my PCs failings to > > the motherboard dying (albeit through some kind of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] evolution smileys

2008-04-17 Thread Josh Blacker
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 19:58 +0100, Farran Lee wrote: > stupid, trivial question: where's my smileys gone? I have > "automatically insert smileys" ticked, but they don't how You may not have 'compose in html' ticked, which would have this effect (I checked). In any case, I think quite a few peopl

[ubuntu-uk] evolution smileys

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
stupid, trivial question: where's my smileys gone? I have "automatically insert smileys" ticked, but they don't show. === Farran Lee I'm only 15 :P -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 19:52 +0100, Tan, Xuan wrote: > Farran: been there, done that. =) > > When I was 15 I single-handedly fried three motherboards because I > failed to notice the dark spot on the video card that had just toasted. > I swapped the video card out to test (didn't have a spare vid

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Tan, Xuan
Farran: been there, done that. =) When I was 15 I single-handedly fried three motherboards because I failed to notice the dark spot on the video card that had just toasted. I swapped the video card out to test (didn't have a spare video card, but had a few spare mobos with AGP slots in them around

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy Issues

2008-04-17 Thread Chris Smith
Andrew Oakley wrote: > This bug needs reporting. Can you check whether it is one of these > existing bugs: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/163678 > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/164527 > > If so, please comment there, and if required change the sta

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Chris Smith
andylockran wrote: > Andrew Oakley wrote that he'd only had two motherboards die in the > last 20 years. > > I've not been so lucky, putting down around 5 of my PCs failings to > the motherboard dying (albeit through some kind of PSU surge in a > couple of cases). > > So how common is it? Have y

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Chris Smith
Farran Lee wrote: > okay, so I definitely won't have to change anything? Somebody mentioned > it somewhere... not here though. I've changed totally CPU, Motherboard and chipset and still had Ubuntu booting first time. Windows however... Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.c

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Thomas Ibbotson
Farran Lee wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 17:50 +0100, Thomas Ibbotson wrote: >> Farran Lee wrote: >> > I mentioned earlier that lots of people had problems with my model mb, >> > and it still didn't work after RMA, so I might have to pick a >> > different one. If I did, would I have to complet

[ubuntu-uk] new compiz plugins

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
okay, successful update eventually... where's my two new compiz plugins? Screensaver and aquarium? Also, i have never had the 3d windows plugin either. Just wondering, looking forward to playing with them :( === Farran Lee I'm only 15 :P -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.c

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 17:50 +0100, Thomas Ibbotson wrote: > Farran Lee wrote: > > I mentioned earlier that lots of people had problems with my model mb, > > and it still didn't work after RMA, so I might have to pick a > > different one. If I did, would I have to completely reinstall the > > s

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Thomas Ibbotson
Farran Lee wrote: > I mentioned earlier that lots of people had problems with my model mb, > and it still didn't work after RMA, so I might have to pick a > different one. If I did, would I have to completely reinstall the > system? Or would it just need certain fixes? > > ==

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 17:44 +0100, Andrew Oakley wrote: > Farran Lee wrote: > > lots of people have had problems with the same motherboard. > > I'd call that a fairly massive hint, and other than hard drive failure, > I'd say we're coming to the end of the list of possibilties. > > Update the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Andrew Oakley
Farran Lee wrote: > lots of people have had problems with the same motherboard. I'd call that a fairly massive hint, and other than hard drive failure, I'd say we're coming to the end of the list of possibilties. Update the motherboard BIOS, and if it still won't play, swap it out for a spare m

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread matt
Quoting Johnathon Tinsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > - "Farran Lee" wrote: >> not as far as I know - I'm only just getting to grips with the >> hardware side of computing. Is it obvious? Does the mb just not >> boot at all? >> >> > I've seen it once, when the capacators fail on a motherboa

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 17:31 +0100, Andrew Oakley wrote: > Farran Lee wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 17:06 +0100, andylockran wrote: > >> So how common is it? Have you had a motherboard die on you? > > not as far as I know - I'm only just getting to grips with the hardware > > side of computin

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Andrew Oakley
Farran Lee wrote: > On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 17:06 +0100, andylockran wrote: >> So how common is it? Have you had a motherboard die on you? > not as far as I know - I'm only just getting to grips with the hardware > side of computing. Is it obvious? Does the mb just not boot at all? The main proble

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 17:21 +0100, Johnathon Tinsley wrote: > > - "Farran Lee" wrote: > > not as far as I know - I'm only just getting to grips with the > hardware side of computing. Is it obvious? Does the mb just not boot > at all? > > > > > > I've seen it once, when the capacators fai

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Johnathon Tinsley
- "Farran Lee" wrote: > not as far as I know - I'm only just getting to grips with the hardware side > of computing. Is it obvious? Does the mb just not boot at all? > > I've seen it once, when the capacators fail on a motherboard, its pretty much useless. You can tell, by if they

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 17:06 +0100, andylockran wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Andrew Oakley wrote that he'd only had two motherboards die in the > last 20 years. > > I've not been so lucky, putting down around 5 of my PCs failings to > the motherboard dying (albeit

[ubuntu-uk] Motherboards dying ( was:Re: possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?)

2008-04-17 Thread andylockran
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Oakley wrote that he'd only had two motherboards die in the last 20 years. I've not been so lucky, putting down around 5 of my PCs failings to the motherboard dying (albeit through some kind of PSU surge in a couple of cases). So how common is

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Thomas Ibbotson
Andrew Oakley wrote: > > Finally, if everything else is fine, then your motherboard is probably > b0rked, sorry (rare, but I have seen it happen twice in 20 years). > > I'm pretty sure the last motherboard I had died. It would take many attempts to boot up (it would spin up the CD drives over

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Johnathon Tinsley
- "Farran Lee" wrote: > sorry, didn't realise :/ > here's the pastebin http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7295/ > >From the looks of that (and I've not had too much practise looking at logs) >there's a lot of "ata exception"s... which makes me think harddrive... might >be worth stress test

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 16:21 +0100, Lucy wrote: > On 17/04/2008, Farran Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I sent this just now but it wouldn't go through because the file was too > > large. Not been moderated yet: > > > > I'm back, that was a lot quicker than I expected. > > > > Okay, spe

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 16:27 +0100, Andrew Oakley wrote: > Farran wrote: > > I did actually run a memtest for almost a whole day, passing 8 times > > with no errors > > Therefore I would strongly suspect your CPU is overheating. When most > modern CPUs overheat, they automatically slow themselv

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Andrew Oakley
Farran wrote: > I did actually run a memtest for almost a whole day, passing 8 times > with no errors Therefore I would strongly suspect your CPU is overheating. When most modern CPUs overheat, they automatically slow themselves down to avoid permanent damage. When the PC crashes, immediately

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Johnathon Tinsley
- "Farran Lee" wrote: > ... > it also reckons I have no updates, but it's been at least two months since I > last went on the net :/ Open a terminal, and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y" That will check for updates, and upgrade them (without asking if you really want

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Lucy
On 17/04/2008, Farran Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I sent this just now but it wouldn't go through because the file was too > large. Not been moderated yet: > > I'm back, that was a lot quicker than I expected. > > Okay, spec: 2GB OCZ SLI approved nVidia memory > 1024mb SLI nVidia 8600GT

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
I sent this just now but it wouldn't go through because the file was too large. Not been moderated yet: I'm back, that was a lot quicker than I expected. Okay, spec: 2GB OCZ SLI approved nVidia memory 1024mb SLI nVidia 8600GTS graphics card Intel core 2 duo q6600 G0 Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R motherboa

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Farran Lee
... it also reckons I have no updates, but it's been at least two months since I last went on the net :/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Huw Selley
On 17 Apr 2008, at 14:01, Farran wrote: Anyway, I was wondering if it's possible to install ubuntu from source, like you would with gentoo (I think that's right), where every package installs itself to work with your hardware perfectly... or does that completely defy the idea of ubuntu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Farran
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 15:45 +0100, Lucy wrote: > On 17/04/2008, Farran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 15:18 +0100, Lucy wrote: > > On 17/04/2008, Farran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Matt: there's the possibilty that there's a problem with the ram - one > > > chip was

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Lucy
On 17/04/2008, Farran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 15:18 +0100, Lucy wrote: > On 17/04/2008, Farran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Matt: there's the possibilty that there's a problem with the ram - one > > chip was bad, so I can't even use it, but the other might be damag

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Farran
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 15:18 +0100, Lucy wrote: > On 17/04/2008, Farran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Matt: there's the possibilty that there's a problem with the ram - one > > chip was bad, so I can't even use it, but the other might be damaged a bit > > too (don't know if that's posisble ).

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Lucy
On 17/04/2008, Farran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matt: there's the possibilty that there's a problem with the ram - one chip > was bad, so I can't even use it, but the other might be damaged a bit too > (don't know if that's posisble ). If the ram is damaged if can cause lots of random probl

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Farran
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 14:18 +0100, andylockran wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Are you sure this isn't a hardware issue? Could it be overheating/a > > drive DOA? What components are you using, as there may be issues > > relating to drive

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread andylockran
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Are you sure this isn't a hardware issue? Could it be overheating/a > drive DOA? What components are you using, as there may be issues > relating to drivers that are causing the instability. > > As to the Installing Ubuntu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread matt
Are you sure this isn't a hardware issue? Could it be overheating/a drive DOA? What components are you using, as there may be issues relating to drivers that are causing the instability. As to the Installing Ubuntu like Gentoo thing I have absolutely no idea, but I suspect not. Mj Quoting Fa

[ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?

2008-04-17 Thread Farran
hi everyone > been having LOTS of issues with my newly built pc - runs smoothly most > of the time, but does really random things: freezes for no reason, > compiz dying for no visible reason etc, and it's taken to booting up > in just under 10 minutes if I'm lucky. 4-core processor, 2GB ram, 1GB >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz and gtk-window-decorator

2008-04-17 Thread Tan Xuan You
Hi Ben, I tried reinstalling compiz as suggested, even with removing all libraries and packages listed and reinstalling them, but to no avail. On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 00:19 +0100, Ben wrote: > Hi > i had the same problem and i resolved it by reinstalling compiz did urs > just start or was it w

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Digitial Development Agency

2008-04-17 Thread Lucy
On 17/04/2008, Dianne Reuby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If anyone's near Manchester, MDDA may be interested in your Ubuntu > projects, publicity, etc. > > http://www.manchesterdda.com/ Thanks Dianne. The Manchester free software group currently use the MDDA for their monthly meetings, but it ha

[ubuntu-uk] Manchester Digitial Development Agency

2008-04-17 Thread Dianne Reuby
If anyone's near Manchester, MDDA may be interested in your Ubuntu projects, publicity, etc. http://www.manchesterdda.com/ Dianne Reuby Collections Manager Museum of Computing @ Swindon http://www.museum-of-computing.org.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listin

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy Issues

2008-04-17 Thread Andrew Oakley
Chris Smith wrote: > Well I found another issue. With the "reduce backlight brightness" > option ticked for battery power. If I remove the AC cord it dims, plug > it back in again it gets brighter. If I keep repeating the 2 states get > progressively less bright after doing this 4 times battery is

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy Issues

2008-04-17 Thread Chris Smith
Chris Smith wrote: > Just updating now will see what's what afterwards. Well I found another issue. With the "reduce backlight brightness" option ticked for battery power. If I remove the AC cord it dims, plug it back in again it gets brighter. If I keep repeating the 2 states get progressively le

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy Issues

2008-04-17 Thread Andrew Oakley
Stephen O'Neill wrote: > Chris Smith wrote: > | - The brightness adjusts itself for power saving I assume but its > | totally erratic and generally annoying. > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=581335 "In power preferences, in AC options the slider is for "Set display brightness" and it's

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy Issues

2008-04-17 Thread Stephen O'Neill
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Smith wrote: | - The brightness adjusts itself for power saving I assume but its | totally erratic and generally annoying. Are your symptoms anything like those in this thread? I'm going to have a look at my laptop when I get home... http://ub

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy Issues

2008-04-17 Thread Stephen O'Neill
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Smith wrote: | Alan Pope wrote: |> On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 16:38 +0100, Chris Smith wrote: |>> - The brightness adjusts itself for power saving I assume but its |>> totally erratic and generally annoying. |>> |> Have you tweaked the settings in Gno