[ubuntu-uk] desktop training pdf reminder

2008-08-07 Thread alan c
Some might want to have a look at the desktop training pdf (from the ubuntu wiki a few months ago). student.pdf It can currently be torrent downloaded easily from mininova http://www.mininova.org/tor/1635675 and other locations, although the original wiki location appears not to currently provid

Re: [ubuntu-uk] USB Network Cables

2008-08-07 Thread Rob Beard
Ian Pascoe wrote: > Her current setup is an old desktop connected via an USB ADSL modem to the > internet - it doesn't have a working ethernet card and she doesn't want to > put one in as "it's too fragile" - the machine not her I hasten to add. And > as we'll both need to be on the internet at t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Age and gender

2008-08-07 Thread alan c
London School of Puppetry wrote: > In a conversation recently someone said to me that Ubuntu is only for > techies.and blokes at that- and young blokes at that! > Out of interest, as a middle-aged woman- I rarely see any other female names > on the forum- but I really like Ubuntu but could not

Re: [ubuntu-uk] USB Network Cables

2008-08-07 Thread Andrew Ball
Hello Ian, I was thinking of this... http://netbsd.gw.com/cgi-bin/man-cgi?upl+4+NetBSD-current ...which makes me wonder what chipset(s) are in the non-Prolific cables. Whether or not similar support is included in Ubuntu I can't say because I have neither the cable nor an Ubuntu bo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] USB Network Cables

2008-08-07 Thread Ian Pascoe
Andy Could you point me in the direction of the open source stuff, presumeing it's not already in Ubuntu? Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew Ball Sent: 07 August 2008 20:13 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] USB Network

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Norm's complaint

2008-08-07 Thread David Futcher
2008/8/7 Dark Otter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Slightly off topic, but what kind of coding knowledge would someone need > to be a worthwhile participant in the bug team? I'm planning to try > learning several languages in the future (I only know some basic C# and > python at the moment), and so I'm won

Re: [ubuntu-uk] USB Network Cables

2008-08-07 Thread Andrew Ball
Hello Gav, GF> A pair of USB wireless dongles or a USB to Ethernet > adaptor for the Windows machine maybe? I was going to suggest a PLIP cable, but then I remembered that Microsoft Windows doesn't support PLIP. There are USB PC-to-PC cables with open source drivers, but I don't know w

Re: [ubuntu-uk] USB Network Cables

2008-08-07 Thread gav
A pair of USB wireless dongles or a USB to Ethernet adaptor for the Windows machine maybe? -- Gav Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://revford.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk I think we need to: Kick the gyro grid signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubunt

[ubuntu-uk] USB Network Cables

2008-08-07 Thread Ian Pascoe
G'day all Scenario. I'm going to have to stay on and off for a number of weeks at my partners house whilst doing some on site work nearby. Her current setup is an old desktop connected via an USB ADSL modem to the internet - it doesn't have a working ethernet card and she doesn't want to put one

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Norm's complaint

2008-08-07 Thread Dark Otter
Slightly off topic, but what kind of coding knowledge would someone need to be a worthwhile participant in the bug team? I'm planning to try learning several languages in the future (I only know some basic C# and python at the moment), and so I'm wondering what to concentrate on to be able to contr

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Norm's complaint

2008-08-07 Thread Kris Douglas
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 6:22 PM, norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Have you considered joining the bug squad? >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad You sound like you may have found your >> itch. You shouldn't need much more than a little technical knowledge and >> only need to donate what time y

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Norm's complaint

2008-08-07 Thread norman
> Have you considered joining the bug squad? > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad You sound like you may have found your > itch. You shouldn't need much more than a little technical knowledge and > only need to donate what time you wish to donate, but maybe by joining > this group you may start to g

[ubuntu-uk] Newsletter: Request for submissions

2008-08-07 Thread Matthew Daubney
Hi all, Having thought this over a bit now and spoken to people about it, I would like to put out a request for submissions to the newsletter. The kind of things we're after is short articles about any project you may be running, if you've done something remarkable (charity walks, parachute jumps,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Norm's complaint

2008-08-07 Thread Matthew Daubney
Norman, Have you considered joining the bug squad? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad You sound like you may have found your itch. You shouldn't need much more than a little technical knowledge and only need to donate what time you wish to donate, but maybe by joining this group you may start to get

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Age and gender

2008-08-07 Thread Gordon Allott
London School of Puppetry wrote: In a conversation recently someone said to me that Ubuntu is only for techies.and blokes at that- and young blokes at that! We get all shapes and sizes in the ubuntu community, from the 13 year old to the 70 year old we have them all. And i think its the fa

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Norm's complaint

2008-08-07 Thread James Westby
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 15:08 +0100, norman wrote: > Yes it is and no, I can find no bug report but then, is it really a bug? Yeah, it's a bug somewhere in all likely hood. I'm not exactly sure where, but filing it against italc would be a good start. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ita

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Norm's complaint

2008-08-07 Thread norman
> I'm sorry to see you seem to be hitting many problems. > > On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 12:32 +0100, norman wrote: > > The point I am making is that the software causing the problem was > > installed by default, causing a problem which had been well documented > > but that nothing appears to have bee

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Norm's complaint

2008-08-07 Thread norman
< snip > > > Norman >>> I really sympathise with you about this, and I have had > similar irritations and exasperations (mostly with wifi and printers). > I guess, after a while, I've tended to think, "Well, the person who > writes and maintains this software is probably doing it for free, in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Norm's complaint

2008-08-07 Thread James Westby
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 13:49 +0100, Mac wrote: > That's a good deal more useful than my reply to Norman -- for which, in > retrospect, I feel I should apologise: he could do without getting a > philosophical reflection when what he needs is help. I did agree with what you said. I was also intere

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Norm's complaint

2008-08-07 Thread Mac
James Westby wrote: > I'm sorry to see you seem to be hitting many problems. > Is > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=749394 > the problem to which you refer? That's a good deal more useful than my reply to Norman -- for which, in retrospect, I feel I should apologise: he could do wit

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Norm's complaint

2008-08-07 Thread Mac
norman wrote: > Here we go again... I will not bore you with the many difficulties I have > encountered, please just accept that, because I like the ideas behind > Ubuntu, I am prepared to try to find ways around them. If I depended on > the use of the computer for my living I probably would not be

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Norm's complaint

2008-08-07 Thread James Westby
Hello again Norman, I'm sorry to see you seem to be hitting many problems. On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 12:32 +0100, norman wrote: > The point I am making is that the software causing the problem was > installed by default, causing a problem which had been well documented > but that nothing appears to h

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Norm's complaint

2008-08-07 Thread norman
Here we go again. During the final testing to make sure that Edubuntu was working correctly before handing the machine to my granddaughter, when a new problem occurred. All worked well, as administrator, but when I logged out and then tried to log in as my granddaughter an error message appeared te

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Age and gender

2008-08-07 Thread Lucy
On 07/08/2008, Michael Holloway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think, (and without starting WW3 here) that the statistics are linked > to a whole lot more. Women have always been welcome to join in these > communities. (or at least for a long time ?? don't know how it was in > the 80s). But: Th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Age and gender

2008-08-07 Thread Michael Holloway
> I've missed loads, I didn't realise there were so many. > I know, i was just looking too - there really are loads! > > communities are often "boys-clubs", they are not limited to boys > only. > Unfortunately, the statistics disagree with you. For what ever reason > the FOSS community is almost

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Age and gender

2008-08-07 Thread Mac
London School of Puppetry wrote: > In a conversation recently someone said to me that Ubuntu is only for > techies.and blokes at that- and young blokes at that! > Out of interest, as a middle-aged woman- I rarely see any other female names > on the forum- but I really like Ubuntu but could not

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Age and gender

2008-08-07 Thread Dianne Reuby
I'm middle-aged and female - someone has to keep these youngsters in order! :) But there is a women's group on the forum, which I don't read much - I can't help feeling that gender-specific groups are a bit discriminatory. Unless the object is to show that women *are* using Ubuntu and encouraging

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Age and gender

2008-08-07 Thread Lucy
On 07/08/2008, Stephen O'Neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My girlfriend is interested in gaming, but cares not for IT and > operating systems etc. She came to a LUG meeting with us once but only > because we were watching a video and it was in a pub that served good beer. My boyfriend is inte

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Age and gender

2008-08-07 Thread Lucy
On 07/08/2008, Michael Holloway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know of many "aimed at/for/by women" communities, but a few of > the KUbuntu contributors and Planet-ubuntu members are part of the KDE > Women team. http://women.kde.org/ They might have some interesting info > on this topic

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Age and gender

2008-08-07 Thread Stephen O'Neill
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lucy wrote: > The people I know who use Linux and go to LUG meetings are anything > from 16-70 (at a guess) year old males, with a few women in between. > So there's certainly a large spread, but from my experience people > tend to get involved at coll

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Age and gender

2008-08-07 Thread Lucy
On 07/08/2008, London School of Puppetry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a conversation recently someone said to me that Ubuntu is only for > techies.and blokes at that- and young blokes at that! > Out of interest, as a middle-aged woman- I rarely see any other female names > on the forum- but

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Age and gender

2008-08-07 Thread Michael Holloway
And apparently there is also http://ubuntu-women.org/ On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 10:08 +0100, London School of Puppetry wrote: > In a conversation recently someone said to me that Ubuntu is only for > techies.and blokes at that- and young blokes at that! > Out of interest, as a middle-aged woman-

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Age and gender

2008-08-07 Thread Michael Holloway
Unfortunately... i think that conversation was partly accurate, though the word "ONLY" is a bit strong. Ubuntu was pretty much created to break that tradition, and to some extent it is slowly working (spreading to the not so young, not so male population). I don't know of many "aimed at/for/by wom

[ubuntu-uk] Age and gender

2008-08-07 Thread London School of Puppetry
In a conversation recently someone said to me that Ubuntu is only for techies.and blokes at that- and young blokes at that! Out of interest, as a middle-aged woman- I rarely see any other female names on the forum- but I really like Ubuntu but could not do without the help from the Forum -what