Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mac Frustration (was Remote support was Sad but true? etc.)

2009-01-18 Thread William Anderson
Sean Miller wrote: [snip] Having grown up in a Unix/VT220 environment to find that there is no ctrl key and everything is done differently is, to say the least, rather alien. I mean, ctrl-c to cancel... been there since time and memorium... how come Steve Jobs gets to redefine it? Hang

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mac Frustration (was Remote support was Sad but true? etc.)

2009-01-18 Thread Simon Wears
Not everyone always realises straight away that Macs can use a 2 button mouse. When I first started using one, it confused me, and I presumed that it didn't have one because it didn't use the right mouse button. The other thing that really got me about using a Mac is that I'm used to doing things

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mac Frustration (was Remote support was Sad but true? etc.)

2009-01-18 Thread Sean Miller
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:23 PM, William Anderson ne...@well.com wrote: Hang on, what do you mean, no Ctrl key? I'm looking at the MacBook Pro keyboard I'm typing on right now, and there it is, a Ctrl key nestling between Fn and Option/Alt. This and the there's no right mouse button[1]

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mac Frustration (was Remote support was Sad but true? etc.)

2009-01-18 Thread Ian Betteridge
It lets you use Ubuntu on a Mac a little more easily :) (The crtl key was, iirc, added around 1986, when Apple started to bring out networking and terminal programmes which required it, usually for connecting to a mainframe. Insignia SoftPC, which let you run DOS apps on Macs, and so required a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mac Frustration (was Remote support was Sad but true? etc.)

2009-01-18 Thread William Anderson
Sean Miller wrote: On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:23 PM, William Anderson ne...@well.com wrote: Hang on, what do you mean, no Ctrl key? I'm looking at the MacBook Pro keyboard I'm typing on right now, and there it is, a Ctrl key nestling between Fn and Option/Alt. This and the there's no right

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mac Frustration (was Remote support was Sad but true? etc.)

2009-01-18 Thread Sean Miller
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 4:45 PM, William Anderson ne...@well.com wrote: Where it counts, it does exactly what you'd think a Ctrl key does. If I fire up a shell, Ctrl+C, +Z, +S, etc does what you think it would. You quickly get used to the difference between Ctrl and Cmd, in fact it's quite

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mac Frustration (was Remote support was Sad but true? etc.)

2009-01-18 Thread Tony Travis
Sean Miller wrote: On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 4:45 PM, William Anderson ne...@well.com wrote: Where it counts, it does exactly what you'd think a Ctrl key does. If I fire up a shell, Ctrl+C, +Z, +S, etc does what you think it would. You quickly get used to the difference between Ctrl and Cmd,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mac Frustration (was Remote support was Sad but true? etc.)

2009-01-18 Thread Rob Beard
On 18/01/2009 21:24, Tony Travis wrote: Hello, Sean. William is right, most Mac's have a 'normal' keyboard + I'm running Ubuntu 8.10 on an old 15 flat-screen G4 iMac quite happily. The only keyboard-related problem I have is that the Mac cursor keys produce different escapes than the PC

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mac Frustration (was Remote support was Sad but true? etc.)

2009-01-16 Thread David King
I always thought that Macs would be easy to use, especially the new OS X. So when I had the opportunity to try it out in an Apple shop, I was disappointed at how hard it was to do anything. I tried several things, and on different occasions, but it was not as intuitive as Apple's advertising

[ubuntu-uk] Mac Frustration (was Remote support was Sad but true? etc.)

2009-01-15 Thread Sean Miller
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Simon Wears munkyju...@googlemail.com wrote: Usually I am wary of tempting people to switch, but since it's my mum I know Ubuntu will do exactly what she needs without any hiccups (well, non I can think of) since all she does is type up work things, and check

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mac Frustration (was Remote support was Sad but true? etc.)

2009-01-15 Thread Simon Wears
I'm very uncomfortable using Apple computers. My friend bought one about 2 years ago, I still struggle to use it. It seems to try to be different so much, it becomes a little unusable (in my opinion). Case example is (again, 2 years ago) I started college. My girlfriend is an artist, and had to do