Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-12 Thread alan c
On 11/06/13 23:17, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: a gnu/linux admin could manage over more units, so turned out cheaper. That is - sort of - most certainly my personal experience. I help a big bunch of friends etc who, in the 'friends and family' network, looked to me to help them get

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-12 Thread Avi Greenbury
Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: A) I do not know about your local libraries but mine are still on windowsxp. So they will have to replace it soon with win8. And that has a steeper learning curve than any of the most common distros. B) If Windows 8 does have a prohibitively-steep learning curve

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-12 Thread Paul Sutton
On 12/06/13 12:43, Avi Greenbury wrote: Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: A) I do not know about your local libraries but mine are still on windowsxp. So they will have to replace it soon with win8. And that has a steeper learning curve than any of the most common distros. B) If Windows 8 does

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-12 Thread Avi Greenbury
Paul Sutton wrote: On 12/06/13 12:43, Avi Greenbury wrote: Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: Appart from canonical who could provide the service? And why is windows service cheaper than gnu/linux distros? I thought the reasoning was that one gnu/linux admin was more expensive than a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-11 Thread alan c
On 10/06/13 22:54, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: Hello all, I was hoping some of you could help me clear this up. My local library is one of the only libraries that is actually getting bigger in the near future. One of the improvements is that they are going to install some new computers. I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-11 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 10 June 2013 22:54, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés a75...@alumni.tecnun.eswrote: Hello all, I was hoping some of you could help me clear this up. My local library is one of the only libraries that is actually getting bigger in the near future. One of the improvements is that they are going to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-11 Thread Avi Greenbury
Simon Greenwood wrote: This is the way things are going to go as outsourcing becomes the norm and unless councils find a good reason to adopt FLOSS (and cost doesn't seem to be one, despite what we're told about making savings), it isn't going to change. Cost is one reason - it's more

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-11 Thread Nigel Verity
Dear All In more than 10 years of working with public sector organisations I have never found any appetite to change from Microsoft products, no matter how the case for open source alternatives is made. Partly it is because many public/civil servants have not the faintest awareness of any

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-11 Thread Paul Sutton
On 11/06/13 09:28, Avi Greenbury wrote: Simon Greenwood wrote: This is the way things are going to go as outsourcing becomes the norm and unless councils find a good reason to adopt FLOSS (and cost doesn't seem to be one, despite what we're told about making savings), it isn't going to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-11 Thread George Tripp
This is the way things are going to go as outsourcing becomes the norm and unless councils find a good reason to adopt FLOSS (and cost doesn't seem to be one, despite what we're told about making savings), it isn't going to change. Cost is one reason - it's more expensive to support a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-11 Thread Michael
On 11/06/13 10:30, Nigel Verity wrote: Dear All In more than 10 years of working with public sector organisations I have never found any appetite to change from Microsoft products, no matter how the case for open source alternatives is made. Partly it is because many public/civil servants

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-11 Thread Sean Miller
I think it'll all be largely irrelevant in a few years... with more and more functionality moving from OS to browser/cloud the operating system is becoming less and less important. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-11 Thread alan c
On 11/06/13 09:20, Simon Greenwood wrote: it isn't going to change. It will change if people act to encourage and promote change. The library now using Open Office not MS is the same one which displayed my FLOSS leaflets regularly over the previous 2 years. Maybe they actually read them?

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-11 Thread Muñiz Piniella , Andrés
El 11/06/2013 23:39, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com escribió: On 11/06/13 09:20, Simon Greenwood wrote: it isn't going to change. It will change if people act to encourage and promote change. The library now using Open Office not MS is the same one which displayed my FLOSS leaflets

[ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-10 Thread Muñiz Piniella , Andrés
Hello all, I was hoping some of you could help me clear this up. My local library is one of the only libraries that is actually getting bigger in the near future. One of the improvements is that they are going to install some new computers. I asked if there was a chance of it being a good chance

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-10 Thread Paul Sutton
On 10/06/13 22:54, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: Hello all, I was hoping some of you could help me clear this up. My local library is one of the only libraries that is actually getting bigger in the near future. One of the improvements is that they are going to install some new computers. I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-10 Thread Muñiz Piniella , Andrés
El 10/06/2013 23:58, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net escribió: On 10/06/13 22:54, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: Hello all, I was hoping some of you could help me clear this up. My local library is one of the only libraries that is actually getting bigger in the near future. One of the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-10 Thread Paul Sutton
On 10/06/13 23:25, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: El 10/06/2013 23:58, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net mailto:zl...@zleap.net escribió: On 10/06/13 22:54, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: Hello all, I was hoping some of you could help me clear this up. My local library is one of the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-10 Thread Muñiz Piniella , Andrés
El 11/06/2013 00:27, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net escribió: On 10/06/13 23:25, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: El 10/06/2013 23:58, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net mailto:zl...@zleap.net escribió: On 10/06/13 22:54, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote: Hello all, I was hoping some of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Public library OS choice

2013-06-10 Thread Tony Pursell
On 10 June 2013 22:54, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés a75...@alumni.tecnun.eswrote: Hello all, I was hoping some of you could help me clear this up. My local library is one of the only libraries that is actually getting bigger in the near future. One of the improvements is that they are going to