Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 - lets give EVERYONE buying a second user PC a chance to try Linux.

2011-06-04 Thread Rob Beard
On 22/05/11 15:30, Alan Bell wrote: On 22/05/11 11:28, Martin Houston wrote: He said that getting a fresh XP image onto a pepurposed machine this way takes just 4 minutes! yeah, you can drop an Ubuntu image on disk pretty quick too. I had them cloning with a PXE boot and clonezilla image

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 - lets give EVERYONE buying, a second user PC a chance to try Linux.

2011-05-26 Thread Martin Houston
infringements, especially if that sharing is done by open wireless links. Message: 3 Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 17:35:43 +0100 From: gazzpmg...@gmx.co.uk To:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 - lets give EVERYONE buying a second user PC a chance

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 - lets give EVERYONE buying a second user PC a chance to try Linux.

2011-05-25 Thread gazz
On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 11:31 +0100, alan c wrote: On 23/05/11 09:53, Avi Greenbury wrote: They're specifically not. If, on first boot, they were presented with Grub asking if they wanted Linux or Windows with respect, I think the choice is between 'Ubuntu' and Windows -- alan

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 - lets give EVERYONE buying a second user PC a chance to try Linux.

2011-05-23 Thread Avi Greenbury
Martin Houston wrote: The hard disks in the Race Online PCs are all 80G at least so why is dual booting not an option there as standard. Because it's confusing. If people are learning to use computers, it makes sense that they boot into one install of one OS to do the learnings of the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 - lets give EVERYONE buying a second user PC a chance to try Linux.

2011-05-23 Thread Paul Sutton
On 23/05/11 09:53, Avi Greenbury wrote: Martin Houston wrote: The hard disks in the Race Online PCs are all 80G at least so why is dual booting not an option there as standard. Because it's confusing. If people are learning to use computers, it makes sense that they boot into one install of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 - lets give EVERYONE buying a second user PC a chance to try Linux.

2011-05-23 Thread alan c
On 23/05/11 09:53, Avi Greenbury wrote: They're specifically not. If, on first boot, they were presented with Grub asking if they wanted Linux or Windows with respect, I think the choice is between 'Ubuntu' and Windows -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com

[ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 - lets give EVERYONE buying a second user PC a chance to try Linux.

2011-05-22 Thread Martin Houston
I was at OpenTech yesterday and there was a massive computer fair going on at ULU at the same time. There were many people selling ex corporate PCs (mostly Dells and HPs) for prices that looked better value than the Race Online Scheme! A typical example was a dual core desktop with 1G ram and

[ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012

2011-05-20 Thread Martin Houston
If you want to help the 9 million not on line yet... Some videos from the conference that has just happened: http://www.nd11.co.uk/vod/nd11-video-archive/ David Cameron, Martha Lane Fox, Mark Thompson DG of the Beeb. -- *Deluxe Technology Ltd* /Linux Consultant/ mhous...@deluxe-tech.co.uk

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-19 Thread Paul Sutton
On 18/05/11 23:48, Alan Bell wrote: On 18/05/11 21:19, Paul Sutton wrote: Ok if people have a login to launchpad they can edit the loco team page which thus far has had me doing this, huh? where? do we sign up individually or sign up as the south west loco team and have the loco team

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-19 Thread Alan Bell
On 19/05/11 08:42, Paul Sutton wrote: so i sign up then join the ubuntu team, ? paul don't think it works like that quite. I filled out the partner form, which should mean that Ubuntu-UK turns up on this page http://raceonline2012.org/partners?page=1title=U in a few days. as a team we can

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker! timeline?

2011-05-19 Thread Yorvyk
On Thu, 19 May 2011 06:36:34 +0100 Alan Bell alanb...@ubuntu.com wrote: Just call it Ubuntu, problem solved. Couldn't agree more. Ask a lot of windows users waht browser they use and the answer will be Vista or Windows 7. If you tell people they have Linux on their phone they will deny it

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-19 Thread Yorvyk
On Wed, 18 May 2011 18:00:36 +0100 Alan Bell alanb...@ubuntu.com wrote: I would rather they just stuck a respectable amount of ram in them and put Ubuntu on them, it works just fine on low spec machines. I don't really see the point in having an OS that works in low memory conditions when

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker! timeline?

2011-05-19 Thread alan c
On 19/05/11 10:21, Avi Greenbury wrote: Alan Bell wrote: Just call it Ubuntu, problem solved. Ah, that was supposed to be the bulk of my point, but I apparently completely forgot to mention it... I should really put something in place that stops me sending out emails in the middle of the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-19 Thread Barry Titterton
http://www.raceonline2012.org The main site says that MS are offering a machine through www.getonlineathome.org that has 1Gb for £95. It makes the Remploy offer look a bit poor in comparison. Barry -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-19 Thread Alan Bell
On 19/05/11 20:42, Barry Titterton wrote: http://www.raceonline2012.org The main site says that MS are offering a machine through www.getonlineathome.org that has 1Gb for £95. It makes the Remploy offer look a bit poor in comparison. Barry yeah, there are several providers, there could be

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 - Another PC Option

2011-05-19 Thread Barry Titterton
A few weeks back Tim Dobson posted a link to Access Space in Sheffield. I dropped in there last Saturday, and they made me very welcome. They also told me that they will make up a machine from used parts, loaded with OSS, for nothing. That's right: free software on a free computer. You have to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread Rob Beard
On 17/05/11 23:30, Martin Houston wrote: The under £100 cheap PCs for the disadvantaged go on sale today. See http://www.ecycleonline.co.uk/choose-your-computer---from-9200-8-c.asp http://www.ecycleonline.co.uk/choose-your-computer---from-9200-8-c.asp Ubuntu 10.10 is there as a solid and no

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread Alan Bell
yeah, I don't think Windows and Office is worth £3 either. Anyhow, to get the Windows version you need to qualify: To qualify for this offer you must be receiving financial help from the government in one or more of the following ways. (If requested, I can provide evidence of this.) *

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread Alan Bell
On 17/05/11 23:30, Martin Houston wrote: Sorry for the long post but this has just made my blood boil and I think we should all be making the maximum fuss we can about this. I think I will give them a call and see if we can work with them constructively to provide better information about the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread alan c
On 18/05/11 08:27, Alan Bell wrote: On 17/05/11 23:30, Martin Houston wrote: Sorry for the long post but this has just made my blood boil and I think we should all be making the maximum fuss we can about this. I think I will give them a call and see if we can work with them constructively

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread Paul Sutton
On 17/05/11 23:30, Martin Houston wrote: The under £100 cheap PCs for the disadvantaged go on sale today. See http://www.ecycleonline.co.uk/choose-your-computer---from-9200-8-c.asp http://www.ecycleonline.co.uk/choose-your-computer---from-9200-8-c.asp Ubuntu 10.10 is there as a solid and

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread Alan Bell
On 18/05/11 08:27, Alan Bell wrote: On 17/05/11 23:30, Martin Houston wrote: Sorry for the long post but this has just made my blood boil and I think we should all be making the maximum fuss we can about this. I think I will give them a call and see if we can work with them constructively to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread Avi Greenbury
Martin Houston wrote: Sorry for the long post but this has just made my blood boil and I think we should all be making the maximum fuss we can about this. To whom, and why? To the vendor who has gone out on a limb and chosen to ship a flavour of Linux? To the Government who have allowed such

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread Matthew Daubney
On 18 May 2011 13:05, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote: So what can we do about this, I am currently helping at a youth music project that has now got 4 / 5 ubuntu computers up and running, I am struggling to maintain what we have on zero budget What help do you need and where? if we

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Alan, for such low spec machines it *may* be worth trying the Lubuntu suite on them. Lubuntu gets full adoption at 11.10 by Canonical, the 11.04 is happily running now. For really old kit (pre i686) lubuntu are going to continue to backport to the 10.04 stable beta the lxde and pcmanfm etc.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread Alan Bell
On 18/05/11 13:05, Paul Sutton wrote: oh and people have full time jobs, so we need to do this when we have time and between other activities.# yeah, but some people have a full time job for which more Free Software in the UK would be a strategic benefit. I really want more people to be

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread Alan Bell
I would rather they just stuck a respectable amount of ram in them and put Ubuntu on them, it works just fine on low spec machines. I don't really see the point in having an OS that works in low memory conditions when as soon as you open Firefox and LibreOffice it is going to be painful

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread Michael Devenish
I'd like to see the 100,000 volunteers for the Race Online 2012 campaign encouraged to download and try Ubuntu so they are at least aware of it and can explain if anyone asks them. They'd also need to be told where to go for tutorials and assistance with Ubuntu. Regards, Michael Devenish On

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread Alan Bell
On 18/05/11 19:02, Michael Devenish wrote: I'd like to see the 100,000 volunteers for the Race Online 2012 campaign encouraged to download and try Ubuntu so they are at least aware of it and can explain if anyone asks them. They'd also need to be told where to go for tutorials and assistance

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread Rob Beard
On 18/05/11 14:48, Matthew Daubney wrote: On 18 May 2011 13:05, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net mailto:zl...@zleap.net wrote: So what can we do about this, I am currently helping at a youth music project that has now got 4 / 5 ubuntu computers up and running, I am struggling to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread Rob Beard
On 18/05/11 19:22, Alan Bell wrote: On 18/05/11 19:02, Michael Devenish wrote: I'd like to see the 100,000 volunteers for the Race Online 2012 campaign encouraged to download and try Ubuntu so they are at least aware of it and can explain if anyone asks them. They'd also need to be told where

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread Alan Pope
On 18 May 2011 19:22, Alan Bell alanb...@ubuntu.com wrote: I'd like to see us being a race online partner organisation and actually being some of those 100,000 volunteers. http://raceonline2012.org I can't see why we shouldn't, what do you think? If we're organised and disciplined, totally we

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread Paul Sutton
On 18/05/11 19:37, Rob Beard wrote: On 18/05/11 14:48, Matthew Daubney wrote: On 18 May 2011 13:05, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net mailto:zl...@zleap.net wrote: So what can we do about this, I am currently helping at a youth music project that has now got 4 / 5 ubuntu computers up

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread Paul Sutton
On 18/05/11 19:54, Alan Pope wrote: On 18 May 2011 19:22, Alan Bell alanb...@ubuntu.com wrote: I'd like to see us being a race online partner organisation and actually being some of those 100,000 volunteers. http://raceonline2012.org I can't see why we shouldn't, what do you think? If

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread Alan Pope
On 18 May 2011 21:19, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote: do we sign up individually or sign up as the south west loco team and have the loco team website as a holding place for people who can help I'd wait for guidance from Alan Bell as he's the point of contact for the LoCo. Probably best to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread Martin Houston
I seem to have stirred up quite a bit of debate with this. Michael Devenish makes a good suggestion that the Race Online volunteers need to get a bit of education with Ubuntu. It is an achievement to get it on the menu as an option but it is clear that the Microsoft spin doctors have had a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread Paul Sutton
On 18/05/11 21:46, Martin Houston wrote: I seem to have stirred up quite a bit of debate with this. Michael Devenish makes a good suggestion that the Race Online volunteers need to get a bit of education with Ubuntu. It is an achievement to get it on the menu as an option but it is clear

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread Paul Sutton
On 18/05/11 21:23, Alan Pope wrote: On 18 May 2011 21:19, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote: do we sign up individually or sign up as the south west loco team and have the loco team website as a holding place for people who can help I'd wait for guidance from Alan Bell as he's the point of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread Avi
Martin Houston wrote: It would have been nice to have little snippets like Linux's 20 year history and the fact it runs on 95% of all super computers. The page is very biased to say the least. Not that either of those matter since we're talking about today and cheap computers, but Windows

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread Martin Houston
It was actually because I approved of the sheer common sense of giving people with no previous exposure to computers Linux instead of Windows that I signed up to be Race Online 2012 partner in the first place. That is why the sudden realisation that Microsoft was involved after all came as

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-18 Thread Alan Bell
On 18/05/11 21:19, Paul Sutton wrote: Ok if people have a login to launchpad they can edit the loco team page which thus far has had me doing this, huh? where? do we sign up individually or sign up as the south west loco team and have the loco team website as a holding place for people who

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker! timeline?

2011-05-18 Thread alan c
On 18/05/11 22:46, Avi wrote: Martin Houston wrote: It would have been nice to have little snippets like Linux's 20 year history and the fact it runs on 95% of all super computers. The page is very biased to say the least. Not that either of those matter since we're talking about today

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker! timeline?

2011-05-18 Thread Avi
alan c wrote: I know that Linux is often used to denote the operating system in addition to being the name of the kernel. I regard Linux as being the kernel, and Stallman started GNU, what he stated was to be a free OS, in 1983. Well, it's probably possible to argue heritage all the way

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker! timeline?

2011-05-18 Thread Alan Bell
Just call it Ubuntu, problem solved. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

[ubuntu-uk] Race Online 2012 PCs shocker!

2011-05-17 Thread Martin Houston
The under £100 cheap PCs for the disadvantaged go on sale today. See http://www.ecycleonline.co.uk/choose-your-computer---from-9200-8-c.asp http://www.ecycleonline.co.uk/choose-your-computer---from-9200-8-c.asp Ubuntu 10.10 is there as a solid and no strings attached choice. But for only £3