[uknof] London Proof Tier 1 - Manchester TCW

2013-10-25 Thread Ben King
Hi All, We currently have Level 3 and NTT as our transit providers out of London (Interxion and TH respectively), and now we want to bring a 3rd tier 1 into Manchester TCW, however I want the utopic 'London Proof' transit and I am not sure who can truly provide. Level 3 resolutely assure me that

Re: [uknof] London Proof Tier 1 - Manchester TCW

2013-10-25 Thread James Blessing
On 25 October 2013 16:20, Ben King b...@warwicknet.com wrote: Hi All, We currently have Level 3 and NTT as our transit providers out of London (Interxion and TH respectively), and now we want to bring a 3rd tier 1 into Manchester TCW, however I want the utopic 'London Proof' transit and I am

Re: [uknof] London Proof Tier 1 - Manchester TCW

2013-10-25 Thread Ricky Blaikie
Cogent say their transit is out via slough - and thats sort of not london but also I am crazy about having Cogent again. We have Cogent in at Everest as part of our house-transit mix. It does indeed go out via Slough, at LD4/LD5. They have improved immeasurably over the last few years IMO.

Re: [uknof] London Proof Tier 1 - Manchester TCW

2013-10-25 Thread Ben King
Hi Nick, I completely agree with all your points! One word - marketing. Regards... Ben Sent from my iPhone On 25 Oct 2013, at 16:43, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote: On 25/10/2013 23:20, Ben King wrote: Any advice would be much appreciated folks. your risk of fat-fingering a router

Re: [uknof] London Proof Tier 1 - Manchester TCW

2013-10-25 Thread Ed Butler
To add to what Ricky said, as I understand it Cogent goes from Slough to Manchester, where they have 100G+ of capacity over the pond. So I'm pretty sure if they provided you with a port in Manchester it would be London proof. Do you own due diligence of course! On 25 October 2013 16:31, Ricky

Re: [uknof] London Proof Tier 1 - Manchester TCW

2013-10-25 Thread Dr Adam Beaumont
On 25 Oct 2013, at 16:31, Ricky Blaikie wrote: Cogent say their transit is out via slough - and thats sort of not london but also I am crazy about having Cogent again. We have Cogent in at Everest as part of our house-transit mix. It does indeed go out via Slough, at LD4/LD5. They

Re: [uknof] London Proof Tier 1 - Manchester TCW

2013-10-25 Thread Charlie Boisseau
On 25 Oct 2013, at 16:43, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.orgmailto:n...@foobar.org wrote: trashing some important bit of your network is probably a lot greater than London going down in flames. Last time this happened was some 350 years ago, I wouldn’t expect London to go down in flames, but that

Re: [uknof] London Proof Tier 1 - Manchester TCW

2013-10-25 Thread Marek Isalski
IOW: measure your risk and tend to the lowest hanging branches first. While I agree with what Nick says here, there's a magical phrase some of the clients I've worked with have: industry regulatory requirement — even if that only means getting the costs in for that kind of diversity for the

Re: [uknof] London Proof Tier 1 - Manchester TCW

2013-10-25 Thread Mike Hughes
On 25 October 2013 19:42, Martin Hepworth max...@gmail.com wrote: And of course if a fair chunk of London does go dark for whatever reason will the rest of the infrastructure be able to cope in any case.. Well, it's not just whether the infrastructure can cope, but actually how many traffic

Re: [uknof] London Proof Tier 1 - Manchester TCW

2013-10-25 Thread Scott Weeks
Cogent say their transit is out via slough - and thats sort of not london but also I am crazy about having Cogent again. We have Cogent in at Everest as part of our house-transit mix. It does indeed go out via Slough, at LD4/LD5. They have improved immeasurably over the last few years

Re: [uknof] London Proof Tier 1 - Manchester TCW

2013-10-25 Thread Daniel Austin
On 25/10/2013 20:40, Scott Weeks wrote: Cogent say their transit is out via slough - and thats sort of not london but also I am crazy about having Cogent again. We have Cogent in at Everest as part of our house-transit mix. It does indeed go out via Slough, at LD4/LD5. They have improved

Re: [uknof] London Proof Tier 1 - Manchester TCW

2013-10-25 Thread Stephen Wilcox
What is the thing you're trying to avoid though? Connectivity via slough is still likely to go back into London to get to the cables which go east and South towards Europe. I've seen these asks many times but the reality is the UK geography plus market dynamics doesn't make this as easy as it

Re: [uknof] London Proof Tier 1 - Manchester TCW

2013-10-25 Thread Rob Greenwood
Cogent and TiNet/Intelliquent/GTT provide London proof tier 1 transit from Manchester, both leaving the country in separate directions. We use both currently. -Rob Sent from my iPhone On 25 Oct 2013, at 16:55, Ed Butler e...@tn13.commailto:e...@tn13.com wrote: To add to what Ricky said, as

Re: [uknof] London Proof Tier 1 - Manchester TCW

2013-10-25 Thread Chris Russell
+1 to the below. Cogents helpdesk has been very impressive lately, also called me a couple of times when theyve seen bgp sessions / icmp to me drop. Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message From: Peter Knapp peter.kn...@ccsleeds.co.uk Date: 25/10/2013 20:54 (GMT+00:00) To:

Re: [uknof] London Proof Tier 1 - Manchester TCW

2013-10-25 Thread Andy Davidson
Hi, Ben King wrote: now we want to bring a 3rd tier 1 into Manchester TCW, however I want the utopic 'London Proof' transit and I am not sure who can truly provide. There are some options, for example we can provide 1273 on a direct session on a router in Manchester, with a useful amount