Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread Paul Mansfield
On 11 September 2014 11:34, Nick Hilliard wrote: > we should have competing marches to see who has the better name has the Orange Order rebranded to the Everything Everywhere Order?

Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread Gord Slater
On 11 September 2014 16:46, Brian Nisbet wrote: > If I was a bad person I'd ask "Britain is the main bit of what?" Cos you've > two things in that sentence, the British Isles and the UK. But, ya know, I'm > not a bad person and I wouldn't want to stir further. :) hah - well now, that all depends

Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread Brian Nisbet
If I was a bad person I'd ask "Britain is the main bit of what?" Cos you've two things in that sentence, the British Isles and the UK. But, ya know, I'm not a bad person and I wouldn't want to stir further. :) Brian Brian Nisbet, Network Operations Manager HEAnet Limited, Ireland's Education a

Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread Charlie Boisseau
Thanks Andy - I think we’ve established my mistake now! The official word is: Northern Ireland is not in Britain, but the British Isles and the UK. Britain is just the main bit. Scotland - too early to tell what it might affect. We will need our own regulatory body (like Ofcom) and no doubt h

Re: [uknof] CWDM Advice needed

2014-09-11 Thread Joseph Waite
Ok cheers guys! Think that has answered my question! I'll stick to the cwdm optics! Would rather pay a little more and not have issues! Regards Joe Waite > On 11 Sep 2014, at 12:10, "Neil J. McRae" wrote: > > Also beware of the fringes - something that works on your span today might > not a

Re: [uknof] Reading->Durham 40G

2014-09-11 Thread Neil J. McRae
Openreach now offer a 40G optical product that may help. Neil Sent from my iPhone > On 11 Sep 2014, at 09:40, "Ed Butler" wrote: > > Hello, > > We're in need of some high capacity from our DC in Reading to Durham. Diverse > paths are needed, we could pick up either in Slough or Docklands.

Re: [uknof] CWDM Advice needed

2014-09-11 Thread Neil J. McRae
Also beware of the fringes - something that works on your span today might not after a fibre break or other incident. Cheers Neil Sent from my iPhone On 11 Sep 2014, at 10:08, "Brandon Butterworth" wrote: >> Well I'd certainly try this first with a stock inventory part before >> spending unne

Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread David Farrell
On 11/09/2014 11:34, Nick Hilliard wrote: we should have competing marches to see who has the better name. That's sure to settle the issue. Sure, will we hold them in Edinburgh? I hear it's the done thing this week... :)

Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread David Farrell
On 11/09/2014 10:15, Charlie Boisseau wrote: Sorry everyone! I didn’t realise it would cause such a shit-storm. Heh. It's caused a lot more than that in the past... Thankfully we've moved beyond that for the most part and I hope it was quite apparent to everyone who visited!! :) Cheers, Dav

Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 11/09/2014 11:30, David Farrell wrote: On 11/09/2014 09:39, Nick Hilliard wrote: ...except for the anachronistic "british isles" thing. North-West European Archipelago? we should have competing marches to see who has the better name. That's sure to settle the issue. Nick

Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread David Farrell
On 11/09/2014 09:39, Nick Hilliard wrote: ...except for the anachronistic "british isles" thing. North-West European Archipelago?

Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread James Bensley
On 10 September 2014 03:18, David Farrell wrote: > Folks, > > It was absolutely *fantastic* to be part of the last two days in my adopted > home town. I hope those who made it enjoyed Belfast and the rest. > > Cheers, > > David. Here here! I actually didn't attend this time in person just on we

Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread Charlie Boisseau
Sorry everyone! I didn’t realise it would cause such a shit-storm. Charlie Boisseau Fluency Communications Ltd T: +44 (0) 330 121 1000 Twitter: @charlieboisseau www.fluency.net.uk char...@fluency.net.uk On 11 Sep 2014, at 10:08, Paul Mansfield wrote: > damn those mapmakers, causing di

Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread Paul Mansfield
damn those mapmakers, causing dissent.

Re: [uknof] CWDM Advice needed

2014-09-11 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> Well I'd certainly try this first with a stock inventory part before > spending unnecessary money on the expensive vendor optic... I'd find the mux spec before puting something live that may only be on the edge of staying live > Vendors do give different tolerances for what the actual waveleng

Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread Daniel Ankers
On 11 September 2014 09:54, Geoff Bennett wrote: > Isn't "Britain" just "mainland Britain"? England, Wales and (for the > moment) Scotland. > > Are you suggesting that in the event of Scotland gaining independence that they are going to physically move away from mainland Britain? That may crea

Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread Jethro R Binks
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014, Keith Mitchell wrote: > On 09/11/2014 04:35 AM, the hatter wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Sep 2014, Charlie Boisseau wrote: > > > >>> And Belfast was utterly awesome. Anyone that didn't fancy leaving > >>> Britain to get over there really did miss out. > >> > >> Erm.. I hate to break

Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread Geoff Bennett
Isn't "Britain" just "mainland Britain"? England, Wales and (for the moment) Scotland. So "Britain" is a geographical term, but "British" is a national designation. Northern Ireland (and the other islands) are part of the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". So Northern Ire

Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread Keith Mitchell
On 09/11/2014 04:35 AM, the hatter wrote: > On Thu, 11 Sep 2014, Charlie Boisseau wrote: > >>> And Belfast was utterly awesome. Anyone that didn't fancy leaving >>> Britain to get over there really did miss out. >> >> Erm.. I hate to break it to you, but Belfast is in Britain. > > I gave the lis

Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread Brian Candler
On 11/09/2014 09:34, Charlie Boisseau wrote: Erm.. I hate to break it to you, but Belfast is in Britain. We might not be able to say the same about Scotland soon:-(, but Northern Ireland is still part of Britain Technically I believe we are the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ire

[uknof] Reading->Durham 40G

2014-09-11 Thread Ed Butler
Hello, We're in need of some high capacity from our DC in Reading to Durham. Diverse paths are needed, we could pick up either in Slough or Docklands. I've checked through the maps and not many people seem to have fibre up that far north. Any suggestions on who would be worth getting in touch wit

Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 11/09/2014 09:28, Charlie Boisseau wrote: And Belfast was utterly awesome. Anyone that didn't fancy leaving Britain to get over there really did miss out. Erm.. I hate to break it to you, but Belfast is in Britain. Erm.. I hate to break it to you, but Belfast is in the UK, not Britain. Th

Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread Daniel Ankers
On 10 September 2014 03:18, David Farrell wrote: > Folks, > > It was absolutely *fantastic* to be part of the last two days in my > adopted home town. I hope those who made it enjoyed Belfast and the rest. > > Cheers, > > David. > Agreed - big thanks to the UKNOF and ION teams Dan

Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread Edward Dore
Belfast is in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Edward Dore Freethought Internet On 11 Sep 2014, at 09:28, Charlie Boisseau wrote: >> And Belfast was utterly awesome. Anyone that didn't fancy leaving >> Britain to get over there really did miss out. > > Erm.. I hate t

Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread Ben King
No its not! Great Britain, is only England, Scotland and Wales. NI is included in UK though. On 11 September 2014 09:28, Charlie Boisseau wrote: > > And Belfast was utterly awesome. Anyone that didn't fancy leaving > > Britain to get over there really did miss out. > > Erm.. I hate to break it t

Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread the hatter
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014, Charlie Boisseau wrote: And Belfast was utterly awesome. Anyone that didn't fancy leaving Britain to get over there really did miss out. Erm.. I hate to break it to you, but Belfast is in Britain. I gave the list several minutes for everyone else to get in first, but su

Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread Mark McFadden
+1 I know I should be using the evaluation form to say this, but I thought the two day organization of the course was great. It allowed me to talk to some people when I wouldn't otherwise have had the chance and I thought the opportunity to have the ION event at the same time was excellent. An

Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread Chris Russell
> We might not be able to say the same about Scotland soon :-(, but Northern > Ireland is still part of Britain. If this happens, connectivity to NI might get very interesting though! (/ref: Neil) Chris website: www.knowledgeit.co.uk | blog: www.knowledgeit.co.uk/blog | twitter: @Knowledge

Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread Charlie Boisseau
> And Belfast was utterly awesome. Anyone that didn't fancy leaving > Britain to get over there really did miss out. Erm.. I hate to break it to you, but Belfast is in Britain. We might not be able to say the same about Scotland soon :-(, but Northern Ireland is still part of Britain. Charlie

Re: [uknof] CWDM Advice needed

2014-09-11 Thread Stephen Wilcox
On 11 Sep 2014 14:06, "Brandon Butterworth" wrote: > > > Standard optics should be fine... > > s/should/may/ Well I'd certainly try this first with a stock inventory part before spending unnecessary money on the expensive vendor optic... > > > > I have a pair if 11 channel mux/demux's which incl

Re: [uknof] Belfast

2014-09-11 Thread Chris Grundemann
Yes! Thanks to all involved, what a great meeting and a darn good time. Cheers, ~Chris On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:18 AM, David Farrell wrote: > Folks, > > It was absolutely *fantastic* to be part of the last two days in my > adopted home town. I hope those who made it enjoyed Belfast and the

Re: [uknof] CWDM Advice needed

2014-09-11 Thread Ben King
It depends on the separation of 1310 channel from the other colours, we use 1+8 Mux's (1310 with the 'standard' 1470-1610 8 ports), and standard LX is fine in the 1310 ports. However if you have colours close to 1310 (1330 or 1350 for example), then a normal LX will stamp all over the surrounding