Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-30 Thread shi zhao
see http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/biz/india-business/Cabinet-approves-new-rupee-symbol/articleshow/6171234.cms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_rupee_sign Chinese wikipedia: h

Re: Why not just change the glyph of 20A8 RUPEE SIGN?

2010-07-30 Thread André Szabolcs Szelp
Actually, while it's quite probable that the sign won't be used by any other currency, I believe there would be no way to prevent that. Cf. the usage of $ all over the world. I believe, other nations using a rupee _could_ adopt it. Having all that said, I don't believe though, as all recent movemen

Re: Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-30 Thread Michael Everson
On 30 Jul 2010, at 08:54, shi zhao wrote: > see > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/biz/india-business/Cabinet-approves-new-rupee-symbol/articleshow/6171234.cms I like the video clip there. "Encoding in Indian standards will take about six months. Encoding in the Unicode and IEC standards will

Re: Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-30 Thread verdy_p
> De : "Michael Everson" > I like the video clip there. "Encoding in Indian standards will take about > six months. Encoding in the Unicode and IEC standards will take about 18 months to two years." > > Sounds as though our Government of India colleagues gave them good advice. > > Michael Ev

Re: Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-30 Thread William_J_G Overington
I find it strange that for a new currency symbol that is to come into use in six months that, in the twenty-first century, with all the modern communication methods available, that encoding in Unicode will take longer than six months. Is there any good reason why people cannot arrange that the

Re: Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-30 Thread Vinod Kumar
On 7/30/10, verdy_p wrote: > > > > India will first need to realize that adapting the ISCII standard will be > tricky (there is no more any common byte > value available in its various 8-bit subtables, even if all of them have > empty positions, so the basic one-to-one > transliteration schemes as

RE: Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-30 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
Why does one require implementation laws to define a code point in Unicode for a new currency symbol? And what does it have to do with ISCII or keyboard layouts or usage or non-usage by people within India or abroad? One cannot make too many assumptions regarding usage. For example, Microsoft

Re: Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-30 Thread Michael Everson
On 30 Jul 2010, at 12:02, Vinod Kumar wrote: > With great difficulty we have managed to bury ISCII or at least make it > irrelevant. > Kindly do not resurrect it. Amen to that. Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/

Re: UTS#10 (collation) : French backwards level 2, and word-breakers.

2010-07-30 Thread Frédéric Grosshans
Le jeudi 29 juillet 2010 à 15:52 -0700, Kenneth Whistler a écrit : > Instead of continuing the discussion with a back and forth in > email, I decided instead to write a Unicode Technical Note > on the general topic, including a case study of alternative > orderings for a French topic list. > > Th

RE: Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-30 Thread Philippe Verdy
"Jonathan Rosenne" > Why does one require implementation laws to define a code point in > Unicode for a new currency symbol? And what does it have to do with > ISCII or keyboard layouts or usage or non-usage by people within India > or abroad? The national law (or an explicit licencing published

Re: UTS#10 (collation) : French backwards level 2, and word-breakers.

2010-07-30 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Frédéric Grosshans asked: > Why did you chose the "fleur" words ? The question discussed about the > accent do not seem to arise here. I was struck by the issues about space, hyphen (or lack thereof) and alternate spellings that could be illustrated by that stretch of topics, so used that as the

Re: Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-30 Thread Rick McGowan
On 7/30/2010 4:01 AM, William_J_G Overington wrote: I find it strange that for a new currency symbol that is to come into use in six months that, in the twenty-first century, with all the modern communication methods available, that encoding in Unicode will take longer than six months. Willia

RE: Reasonable to propose stability policy on numeric type = decimal

2010-07-30 Thread John Dlugosz
> I think you could treat the Han digits the same way: In some of the > Chinese news corpora I work with, the ten Han digits are frequently > used Western-style, especially for years, phone numbers, and other > identifiers. > > - John D. Burger >MITRE > I don't know Chinese, but the various

RE: Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-30 Thread Doug Ewell
The real question IMHO is whether the Ryerson company will be able to sue the Indian government for appropriating a too-similar logo. http://www.ryerson.com/ I wonder how many people on this list who are expressing legal opinions are actually licensed to practice law anywhere. -- Doug Ewell | Th

Re: CSUR Tonal

2010-07-30 Thread Luke-Jr
On Monday, July 26, 2010 02:16:23 am Kent Karlsson wrote: > There are more superscripted letters than i and n that are encoded; among > them are: > > 1D47;MODIFIER LETTER SMALL B;Lm;0;L; 0062 > 1D50;MODIFIER LETTER SMALL M;Lm;0;L; 006D > 02E2;MODIFIER LETTER SMALL S;Lm;0;L; 0073 > 1D57;MODIFIER LE

Re: UTS#10 (collation) : French backwards level 2, and word-breakers.

2010-07-30 Thread Frédéric Grosshans
Le vendredi 30 juillet 2010 à 08:36 -0700, Kenneth Whistler a écrit : > I suspect that many French users would be utterly unable to > tell a "correct" ordering of all the modèle, modelé words > from an "incorrect" one, or would frankly much care in practice, > as long as they could find what they w

Re: Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-30 Thread John H. Jenkins
On Jul 30, 2010, at 5:01 AM, William_J_G Overington wrote: > Is there any good reason why people cannot arrange that the new symbol is > fully encoded into Unicode and ISO 10646 by 31 December 2010, that is, before > the end of the present decade, ready to use in the next decade? > > If there

Re: UTS#10 (collation) : French backwards level 2, and word-breakers.

2010-07-30 Thread Mark Davis ☕
A few items on the UTN that I didn't notice previously, and one for UCA.A. 2.3. Topic List, Order 3 It is not just ICU; CLDR/LDML sets the default for alternates to * non-ignorable*, which means that probably most implementations of UCA will be non-ignorable. This is out-of-the-box, so those implem

Re: CSUR Tonal

2010-07-30 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Luke asked: > Given this scenario, is it proper to encode perhaps one set of TONAL MODIFIER > LETTER SMALL _ suitable for use, No. > are we stuck using these mismatching existing > encodings, No, although if I were representing this data, that is probably what I would use. > or perhaps some

Most complete (free) Chinese font?

2010-07-30 Thread jander...@talentex.co.uk
Does anybody know what the most complete, Chinese font is called? This is for Linux, but I think I can use just about any format. I know about the one called Unifont, which is possibly as ugly as one can make it :-) so I was hoping to find something a little bit nicer. The problem I have is th

Re: Most complete (free) Chinese font?

2010-07-30 Thread John H. Jenkins
The Han Nom fonts cover everything through Extension B and look OK. They're TrueType. On Jul 30, 2010, at 1:41 PM, jander...@talentex.co.uk wrote: > Does anybody know what the most complete, Chinese font is called? This is for > Linux, but I think I can use just about any format. I know about

Re: Most complete (free) Chinese font?

2010-07-30 Thread Leonardo Boiko
Unifont is not ugly for its intended purpose: a bitmapped, fixed-width 16-pixel font. It’s great for terminals or Emacs IMHO, as long as your monitor resolution isn’t too high… I don’t know Chinese so I can’t vouch for coverage, but Wen Quan Yi seems to be the most popular open-source Chinese fon

Re: CSUR Tonal

2010-07-30 Thread Luke-Jr
On Friday, July 30, 2010 01:48:03 pm Kenneth Whistler wrote: > What you cannot expect is that system fonts are going to > follow your exact expectations about layout of exponentiation > notations for a very specific and marginal use system, > when the modifier letters see far more widespread usage

Re: Indian Rupee Sign (U+20B9) proposal

2010-07-30 Thread Tulasi
> That's because what THEY did was to take > an Arial-like Latin R as the basis for the design. Wrong assertion! The designer used Hindi-alphabet "Ra" as the basis. Then he tweaked its curve giving a similar look like English-alphabet "R" without left vertical bar. > Yes, indeed I did. And this