Re: Mandombe

2012-06-08 Thread Jean-François Colson
Le 09/06/12 00:25, Markus Scherer a écrit : On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Jean-François Colson > wrote: In the Unicode members documents area I found document L2/11-053 "Proposal to add the Mandombe Script". Well. What decision has been made? Has it been a

Re: [cldr-dev] Re: Questions on Chinese collation, stroke

2012-06-08 Thread Mark Davis ☕
It can supply the data for both, if they differ. That's done with two fields. However, in this case there is only one value; if that's incorrect for this character someone should file feedback. -- Mark * * *— Il meglio è

Re: Mandombe

2012-06-08 Thread Philippe Verdy
Didn't you decide recently to open the L2 document registry, like the WG2 document registry ? Or I misinterpreted the minutes I read in the L2 registry in last May. 2012/6/9 Markus Scherer : > I don't know what the consortium policy is about access to members-only > documents. Rather than looking

Re: Mandombe

2012-06-08 Thread Rick McGowan
Jean-François -- What decision has been made? Has it been accepted? Rejected? For ever or till more information is provided? I will follow up with you off-list. Yes, the committee reviewed the proposal during meeting 126, and is following up with questions to the authors of the proposal. Se

Re: Mandombe

2012-06-08 Thread Markus Scherer
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Jean-François Colson wrote: > In the Unicode members documents area I found document L2/11-053 "Proposal > to add the Mandombe Script". > > > Well. What decision has been made? Has it been accepted? Rejected? For > ever or till more information is provided? > The

Re: Mandombe

2012-06-08 Thread Jean-François Colson
Le 08/06/12 23:15, Markus Scherer a écrit : On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Jean-François Colson > wrote: Hello In the French Wikipedia article about Mandombe (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandombe) I read: “Un dossier de demande d'encodage de l'écriture M

Re: [cldr-dev] Re: Questions on Chinese collation, stroke

2012-06-08 Thread 賀靜蘭
Check the tr38 , from the description of kTotalStrokes, it provides stroke count data for simplified Chinese and traditional Chinese. Then, I don't have concern. Thanks! Claire. On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Claire Ho (賀靜蘭) wrote: > Hi Mark >

Re: [cldr-dev] Re: Questions on Chinese collation, stroke

2012-06-08 Thread 賀靜蘭
Hi Mark > There you find the line: > U+8303 kTotalStrokes 8 In Traditional Chinese, U+8303 has 9 strokes as Matt mentioned in the email. The radical "++" is counted as 4 strokes. I think there are several radicals have the same issue, different stroke counts, between simplified Chinese and trad

Re: Latin chi and stretched x

2012-06-08 Thread Julian Bradfield
On 2012-06-08, David Starner wrote: > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Denis Jacquerye wrote: >> Are you sure it's not the opposite? Dorsey had a typewriter that >> didn't have his turned letters, so he used crossed lines below to >> indicate what letters should be turned when printed. > > I don'

Re: Mandombe

2012-06-08 Thread Markus Scherer
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Jean-François Colson wrote: > Hello > > In the French Wikipedia article about Mandombe ( > http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Mandombe) > I read: “Un dossier de demande d'encodage de l'écriture Mandombe a été > introduit à l'Unico

Mandombe

2012-06-08 Thread Jean-François Colson
Hello In the French Wikipedia article about Mandombe (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandombe) I read: “Un dossier de demande d'encodage de l'écriture Mandombe a été introduit à l'Unicode au mois de décembre 2010. Ce dossier a été discuté à la réunion du Comité technique de l'Unicode au début d

Re: Latin chi and stretched x

2012-06-08 Thread David Starner
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Denis Jacquerye wrote: > Are you sure it's not the opposite? Dorsey had a typewriter that > didn't have his turned letters, so he used crossed lines below to > indicate what letters should be turned when printed. I don't have a source to refer to, but two things m

Re: Latin chi and stretched x

2012-06-08 Thread Szelp, A. Sz.
You are right, the s-acute just below it confused me. -- Szelp, André Szabolcs +43 (650) 79 22 400 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Julian Bradfield wrote: > "Szelp, A. Sz." wrote: > >Julian, if you look closely, it is not actually a turned s, but something > >created with a turned s in mind.

Re: Latin chi and stretched x

2012-06-08 Thread Denis Jacquerye
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:54 PM, David Starner wrote: > > LATIN SMALL LETTER ROTATED P was used; see > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:BAE-Siouan_Alphabet.png . It > has caused some whimpering among those trying to transcribe the text. > (It's not Dorsey's fault; apparently he used a unique

RE: Latin chi and stretched x

2012-06-08 Thread Peter Constable
Assuming that SignWriting display controls can be applied to _any_ character will result in a large number of alternate encoded representations for text elements. If encoded, then I will expect UTC to stipulate that rendering engines must not allow such display controls to affect the display of

Re: Latin chi and stretched x

2012-06-08 Thread Michael Everson
On 8 Jun 2012, at 12:30, Jean-François Colson wrote: >>> Look at page 4. If those characters could be applied to Latin letters, we’d >>> have: >>> ʁ = ʀ + SWR13 >>> ᴙ = ʀ + SWR9 >>> ᴚ = ʀ + SWR5 >>> ᴝ = u + SWR3 >>> ᴟ = m + SWR7 >>> >>> That would be very practical. >> This would absolutely be t

Re: Latin chi and stretched x

2012-06-08 Thread Jean-François Colson
Le 08/06/12 10:13, Michael Everson a écrit : On 8 Jun 2012, at 01:52, Jean-François Colson wrote: 15 rotation characters have already been proposed for signwriting: http://std.dkuug.dk/JTC1/SC2/WG2/docs/n4090.pdf Look at page 4. If those characters could be applied to Latin letters, we’d have:

Re: Latin chi and stretched x

2012-06-08 Thread Karl Pentzlin
Am Donnerstag, 7. Juni 2012 um 22:54 schrieb David Starner: DS> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Julian Bradfield DS> wrote: >> Surely there is no basis for distiguishing characters solely on >> the basis of weights that are an artefact of the writing device - >> nobody would propose using or enco

Re: Latin chi and stretched x

2012-06-08 Thread Julian Bradfield
"Szelp, A. Sz." wrote: >Julian, if you look closely, it is not actually a turned s, but something >created with a turned s in mind. In the very sort of the alphabet, the >regular s has equal (or near-equal) top and bottom bowls. the "turned" one >has an emphasized upper bowl, which of course stems

Re: Latin chi and stretched x

2012-06-08 Thread Julian Bradfield
>But if that linked image contains the full alphabet, then there is no >regular d, which would be confusable with the rotated p. So in fact, Yes, there is. Try reading the paragraph at the bottom of the page. -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with regis

Re: Latin chi and stretched x

2012-06-08 Thread Szelp, A. Sz.
Julian, if you look closely, it is not actually a turned s, but something created with a turned s in mind. In the very sort of the alphabet, the regular s has equal (or near-equal) top and bottom bowls. the "turned" one has an emphasized upper bowl, which of course stems from the idea of a turned s

Re: Latin chi and stretched x

2012-06-08 Thread Szelp, A. Sz.
But if that linked image contains the full alphabet, then there is no regular d, which would be confusable with the rotated p. So in fact, encoding as d would not seem wrong (char d was chosen for that sound, but because there is no [d]-like sound, it was "reinterpreted" as a turned p (like the tur

Re: Latin chi and stretched x

2012-06-08 Thread Michael Everson
On 8 Jun 2012, at 01:52, Jean-François Colson wrote: > 15 rotation characters have already been proposed for signwriting: > http://std.dkuug.dk/JTC1/SC2/WG2/docs/n4090.pdf > Look at page 4. If those characters could be applied to Latin letters, we’d > have: > ʁ = ʀ + SWR13 > ᴙ = ʀ + SWR9 > ᴚ = ʀ