Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

Dominikus Scherkl wrote: "i. e." is an latin abbreviation for "in exemplum" meaning "for example" not "that is". "i. e." = "id est" = "that is" "e. g." = "exempli gratia" = "for example" Cassel's English-German Dictionary, ISBN 0-02-522920-6, also says so. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

r" (and the penultimate word of the 2nd line reads "Brunnens"). This problem was even worse with the medieval Textura font. Hence, medieval scribes developed a rich set of abbreviations, including the overbar for an omitted "m" or "n". The latter has survived into German handwriting, at least until the 1st half of the 20th century. Best wishes, Otto Stolz PS. Never write "Hawaii" in German Kurrent ;-)

8-bit MIME (was: Documenting in Tamil Computing)

MIME, and many take the pains to transform 8-bit MIME to some transfer-encoding supported by the receiving server. If you are located behind a server that recodes your 8-bit mail, you cannot claim that 8-bit mail is supported everywhere; you can only claim that your server compensates for the incompatibility of your MUA and the world at large. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Mapping from HTML to Unicode

l/entities.html>. HTML 4.01 is defined in <http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/>; recommended reading for every WWW author! Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Localized names of character ranges

t;, rather than "Verschiedene graphische Symbole" - "Graphische Symbole" for "Dingbats" is very badly chosen; I'd like to suggest "Typographische Schmuckzeichen", or simply "Schmuckzeichen" - "CJK symbols and punctuation" is not localized in Word 97 [de]; it could be translated to read "CJK-Satz- und -Sonderzeichen" - Neither has "CJK Unified Ideographs" been localized; I'd suggest: "Chinesische, japanische und koreanische (CJK) Ideogramme" Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: UTF-Morse

u shall be called "Marcone", or even (granting a Pluralis majestatis): "Marconi" ;-) Ciao, Otto Stolz

Re: [OT] Morse code (was: Morse coded Unicode)

y? No, Sir! You cannot do without the gaps. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Lowercase numerals

;. Note that V is half an X (the upper half), L emerged from half a C (the upper half of its original form), D is half a U+2180 (the right half). Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Morse code

Michael Everson wrote: Surely this is one for the FAQ. OK, tomorrow, I'll submit a formal proposition for an FAQ entry. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Morse code

: ·-- ·- - ·· ··· ·-- ·-· --- -· --· ·-- ·· - ··- - - ··--- -·· ··--·· U+002D is fine: it is already heavily overloaded, so why not impose onto it the additional burden of representing the Morse dot. Cf. my previous note discussing what's wrong with U+2013. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Morse code

Radovan Garabik had written: Recently I got a crazy idea: why not include Morse code characters in unicode? (Yes, I know it is crazy, but when Braille is already included...) I wrote: I was under the impression that all three Morse code elements are already in Unicode: U+00B7 U+2013 U+0020

Re: Morse code

to the dots comprising a Braille pattern, these code elements are concatenated sequentially, just as characters in plain text are. Hence, there is obviously no reason to assign codepoints to particular sequences thereof. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Special characters

e: a simple 8-bit editor, such as Notepad from Windows 95, will suffice. NN 4.7/4.8 will happily display the characters produced via the NCRs; so will all browsers capable of displaying UTF-8-encoded HTML 4. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Special characters

particular problem characters as NCRs, cf. <http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/charset.html#h-5.3.1>. Marco Cimarosti has given the respective numbers. In any case, your reader will need a suitable font (as above) and browser (cf. <http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/browsers.html). Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: In defense of Plane 14 language tags (long)

y language tag John Hudson This may serve as an example for Doug's argument #8: "Other, as yet un- invented tags would be implicitly deprecated." Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: In defense of Plane 14 language tags (long)

Dominikus Scherkl wrote: I found the arguments quite convincing So do I. But I think, they should be stated as clearly, and conclusively, as possible. Thence my recent comments. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: In defense of Plane 14 language tags (long)

rrect argument is probably: Plane-14 Tags do not affect searching any more than high-level tags do. 7. Rapid deprecation creates an image of instability. ... 8. Other, as yet uninvented tags would be implicitly deprecated. ... Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: `` ", ` '

both Mark and Doug were referring to the uneducated disemination of wrongly spelled quotes, via e-mail -- or even in www pages, where you can easily have the correct quote characters, viz. “ and ”. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

"Superscript e" (was: Character identities)

OMBINING LATIN SMALL LETTER E), cf. <http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0300.pdf>. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Character identities

bout German Fraktur orthography. My quote was too short, so this detail was lost. I apologize for any misunderstandings possibly caused by my omission. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Long S on keyboard (was: Character identities)

particular, proprietary encodings. A standardized Long-s key would certainly help to promote Unicode amongst Fraktur font designers. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Character identities

quot;s", if so desired. Fuzzy searches should equate "ſ" with "s". Apparently, Google.de doesn't do it right: a search vor "Kinderſtube" yields no hits, while a search for "Kinderstube" yields about 10700. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Omega + upsilon ligature?

t; -- though, IIRC, for some Canadian aborigines language, written, in Latin script, by French missionaries. It turned out to be U+0222 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER OU U+0223 LATIN SMALL LETTER OU Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Omega + upsilon ligature?

PS. I use the "TITUS Cyberbit Basic" font to display it, cf. . Ciao, OS

Fraktur fonts

nd handles them automatically. Nice to have: - has a double-hyphen (akin to "=") for U+2010, U+2011, and 00AD. So far, I have not yet seen a reasonable Fraktur font. My recent note to Waldenfont (cc: Unicode-List) is meant as an attempt to find one. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Waldenfont Fraktur Fonts

ligatures are discussed at the end of section 7.1. For German text, a ligature between the constituents of a composition would be prohibited by inserting one of the Unicode controls discussed in section 13.2, such as SHY (U+00AD) or ZWNJ (U+200C). Thank you in advance for your response. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: OCR characters

x27;s positions may slightly differ.) So I guess, these characters are deliberately left off Unicode. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

German 'ich' (was: Pronunciation of U+0429)

e German standard pronounciation [ç], or have you, by any chance, heard this phoneme pronounced by a Hessian [ʃ]? The latter would resemble the pronounciation of "щ" much more than the former (which is normally transliterated into Russian as "г"). Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: "Missing character" glyph

ssigned a character, in the fore- seeable future. Please do not promote an assignation to U+03A2 just do make a point :-) Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: quotation marks in European languages

of the various speakers, whilst quote symbols would enclose them. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: "Missing character" glyph

as no character assigned to it (and is not likely to get one), e. g. U+03A2: most systems will use their respective missing-character glyphs to display it. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: quotation marks in European languages

ong, viz. - Tahoma - Verdana - Courier New (while some other do it right, e. g. Andale Mono, Trebuchet MS, Georgia, Arial Black, Impact, Arial, Times New Roman.) Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: User interface for keyboard input

ndeed a difference between the Windows 95/98/ME line, which is essentially based on codepages, and Windows NT/2k/XP, which dwell on Unicode. Still, the Unicode-based clipoard seems to be sort of a "lingua Franca" (universal language). My impressions as a regular user of various Windows flavours, but not as a developer who knows the internals. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Definition of character: Exegesis of SC2 nomenclature

Salve, ho scritto: > And which character most resembles a Frenchman smoking his cigarette? Marco Cimarosti scrisse: > I need to know, NOW! PLEASE! U+A232 Egli ha il suo basco. Ciao, Otto

Re: Definition of character: Exegesis of SC2 nomenclature

For this challenge: > and Character Most Resembling a Frog (this is left as an exercise > for the reader). the following answers were proposed: > Telugu U+0C0A > Malayalam U+0D60! My minimalist view: - APL U+2365 Cheers, OS

Re: Definition of character: Exegesis of SC2 nomenclature

And which character most resembles a Frenchman smoking his cigarette?

Long S (was: How do I encode HTML documents in old languagesſuch as 17th century Swediſh in Unicode?)

John H. Jenkins had written: > Aargh! Medial long-s! Run away! Run away! :-) Stefan Persſon wrote: > Why ſhould I not uſe old characters that already were out-of-uſe centuries > ago? ;-) Juſt for the record: it's not "centuries", but half a century: "ſ" was in uſe, on a regular baſis, in G

Re: unicode Digest V2 #167

ean and Ethiopian were also missing, whilst Armenian was there. Granted, that this was a standard Windows + IE/Netscape installation, I deem this result fairly impressive. If that secretary would be able to write, e. g. Japanese, she would certainly have the Japanese IME installed, and that would include a Japanese font, so the browser would display the Japanese examples, as well. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: unicode Digest V2 #167

to display that page. Even if you do better (server- side mechanisms rather than Javascript), you will never be able to cover all browsers in the field (i. e. all browser brands, all versions; all operating systems, all configuration settings; all display types, re- solutions, and windows sizes; ...).

Re: FW: Inappropriate Proposals FAQ

stitutes a character. E. g. the cyrillic character "Ы" is non-contiguous; in the Latin script, when "f" and "l" are ligated, they still constitute two characters. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

http://dol.nic.in (was: WEFT help)

ttp://www.w3.org/TR/html401/charset.html#h-5.3.1>. Font tages with face attributes are clearly bound to fail in many ways, cf. <http://alis.isoc.org/web_ml/html/fontface.en.html> and <http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/charset/fontface-harmful.html>. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Chess symbols

ades and grid: ... > +++++++++ > |#♖#| ♘ |#♗#| ♕ |#♔#| ♗ |#♘#| ♖ | > ||||||||| > +++++++++ To me, this shows that plain text really cannot acccommodate shades: I hardly see the chess pieces amongst the number signs. As said be- fore, shades belong to the realm of styles/markup. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Word 97 "Unicode Text" (was: Chess symbols, ...)

deducing the bit patterns from the colours. Ever heared of the Debug DOS-conmmand, available in yout Windows 98? Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Chess symbols

le in this way: Rather you will get 64 lines (cf. second attached file). Best wishes, Otto Stolz Schach1.doc Desc

Re: How the regional Online- News papers are able to display all thecharacters

will not be understood by indexing-programs, search machines and their ilk. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Unicode in email

Tay, William wrote: > Can an email address contain any Unicode characters? Why and what protocol > support make it possible, or not? Cf. <http://www.zvon.org/tmRFC/RFC2047/Output/index.html>. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Rendering Problem in indian languages

r half chars. Cf. <http://www.unicode.org/unicode/standard/where/#Variant%20Shapes>. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Ie abbreviation character

Lars Marius Garshol wrote: > I've been looking for the the character used in Norwegian (and > possibly elsewhere) as an abbreviation for "that is to say", "in other > words", "i.e.". It looks like a reversed lower-case "c" followed by a > colon. You mean “ɔ:”? Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Welcome to list 'unicode'

to have Word ask you for the encoding when you open a file. - In contrast to File/Save, the menu item File/Save_As has a field to choose the encoding for the file you are going to create on the disk. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Please help: Unicode sig in Hotmail

port. Ask them, wether their Interface can handle UTF-8, at all, and if so, how to configure your local software to take advantage of this feature. If they do not understand your question, then mention the MIME protocoll, specified in RFC 2045 and 2047, <http://rfc.sunsite.dk/rfc/rfc2045.html>, <.../rfc2047.html>. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: MS/Unix BOM FAQ again (small fix)

r Win 98 4.10., using local files. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: "A" in Fraktur

se other variants, such as > <http://www.giessener-anzeiger.de/>. This "A" has the same topology (though in a different style) as Gutenberg's, which I have described as "trapezoid". Best wishes, Otto Stolz

"A" in Fraktur (was: Talk about Unicode Myths...)

Caslon's Blackletter (London 1821), "Fette Gotisch" (Offenbach 1893); at these times, Fraktur was common knowledge. So I guess, the readability is not the primary reason for the prevalence of this variant, in newspaper titles. (However, I cannot suggest any other motive.) Bets wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Browser support

, · displays question marks for 5 of them viz. the Daggers, the Zs with Hatchek, and the Promille Sign. So, yes, not all of the CP 1252 additions are correctly displayed by Netscape 4.7; and I apologize for my sloppyness. But, no, Netscape 4.7 has no problem with the Trademark Symbol, nor any other of the symbols mentioned in the original question. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Browser support

L4.htm>, as there are suitable fonts freely available, - test your WWW-pages with all browsers popular in your user community. > Do you know of a chart for browser support of > unicode by browser version. The most comprehensive discussion I've seen is <http://www.hclrss.demon.co.uk/unicode/browsers.html>. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: [OT] Broken monetary settings in MS Works

t unit in a header field of the data file, so it would display the correct values, regardless of the locale the data set is displayed in. A more advanced spreadsheet program would keep the unit with every entry (field), as MS-Excel indeed does. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: [OT] Broken monetary settings in MS Works

my 5 € will become 5 $, 5 £, 5 ¥, or whatever. Of course, a function to update the old DM entries to equivalent € amounts would come handy, but my previous note did not ask for it. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: [OT beyond any repair] House numbers

umbers). Marco Cimarosti wrote: > here the numbering always starts on the end of the road which is > nearer to the center. Same here. I guess, it's rather "nearer to the post-office". I recall that at Hamburg (northern Germany) I found it different, some years ago. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

[OT] Broken monetary settings in MS Works (was: Standard Conventionsand euro)

ed by 1.95583 (i. e., Works simply displayed an €-sign in place of the former "DM"). Incredible! Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Theban alphabet?

;-) No, it must be U+209B, of course (2606*5/6). > Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Standard Conventions and euro

.dk/rfc/rfc2550.html>. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Ȣendat (was: 8endat)

y some accessible font. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: ISO 3166 (country codes) Maintenance Agency Web pages move

we would need over 17576 three-letter codes, at the same time -- even if we reserve obsolete codes for several decades. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: ISO 3166 (country codes) Maintenance Agency Web pages move

ld code is reserved for 5 years. > >http://www.iso.org/iso/en/prods-services/iso3166ma/03updates-on-iso-3166/nlv3e-rou.html This is much more reasonable; 10, or 20, years would be even more so. But any reservation beyond 50 years or so, would prove infeasable, sooner or later. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Unicode 3.2 comments - part 2 of 4

rmation from UTF-16BE | to UTF-16LE (irrespective, whether the byte-ordering is explicitely | specified, or is implied by the target environment the string is | ported to). I hope I could make my suggestion clear; improvements of my wording are certainly possible, as I am not a native speaker of English. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: politonik greek

- <http://czyborra.com/utf/>, particularly · <http://czyborra.com/utf/#UTF-8> · <http://czyborra.com/utf/#UTF-16> - <http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html>, particularly · <http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html#utf-8> Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Unicode and Security

e no character encoding standard can really prevent this sort of spoofing (we had enough examples in this thread, based on bare ASCII). Trying to find a spoofing-proof character- encoding is comparable to the task of finding an alphabet that does not allow to spell any insults. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Unicode and Security

ting of clauses written in oppsite directions) as unambiguously as possible. Btw.: Decent software should make clear and obvious to the user what he is really signing. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Database To Web Browser

the user's input to my reference encoding? I really do not know the answer to most of these questions, and I'd be happy to learn about them. (In particular pertaining to HTML forms and server-side PHP scripts). Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Questions about Unicode history

e a new DIS 10646 in January 1992 for a 4-month (i. e. shortened) vote. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Proposing Fraktur

dy can write Fraktur, you can only delineate it :-) Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Shamrock

in terms of character classes -- or, otherwise, could these be treated as glyph variants? Thank you, and best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Shamrock

Mr. Everson said: > At some stage I will be requesting a shamrock, as > this is used in a number of dictionaries as a symbol denoting > horticulture. What about U+2663? Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: what r the previous shapes of math's digits

isation thereof, cf. <http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/Abacus> <http://www.ee.ryerson.ca/~elf/abacus/>. You may be able to find more information about these topics via an internet search (e. g. <http://www.google.com/intl/en/>) with keywords such as History Arabic numerals History digit Zero Decimal numbering system Radix system Abacus Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Tengwar added to Plane1 Unicode Demo Page

oring.html>. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Strange plane 1 behaviour

eret and Tengwar are replaced with weird glyphs I do not recognize. - Every single Etruscan word is (erroneously) written LTR, while the overall writing direction in the Etruscan table cells is RTL. Netscape 6.2: - All plane-1 characters are replaced with double question marks. - The general writing direction is alright. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Strange plane 1 behaviour

plane-0 PUA UTF-8: Correct Tengwar characters; Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Strange plane 1 behaviour

ion is correct. - Netscape 6.2 [English]: The Deseret characters are replaced with Cyrillic ones; the Etruscan and Gothic words are replaced with some unrecognicable blots (possibly some glyphs overlayed). The writing direction is correct. This means that Opera 6.0 does not display plane-1 characters, in all environments. On the Opera download pages, I could not find anything dubbed "6.01b". Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: ISO 8859-6 (was: ISO 8859-11 Latin/Thai + Euro)

Thank you for the clarification. Best wishes Otto Stolz

ISO 8859-6 (was: ISO 8859-11 Latin/Thai + Euro)

st wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Virus...

to the postmaster address given in their MTA's error message. Again, that message bounced, allegedly because I were trying to abuse their SMTP server as a relay (which I didn't, of course). Weird. Best wishes, Otto Stolz My standard virus warning follows: Dear Sir or Madam, yesterda

Re: Question about some MS IE options

cf. <http://www.hclrss.demon.co.uk/unicode/> and <http://www.unicode.org/unicode/onlinedat/products.html>). So, if your HTML source is in a "Western" language, I'd re- commend "Western European (ISO)", otherwise "Unicode (UTF-8)". Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Comments on FCD 5218, "Codes for the representation of human sexes"

he reform be not effective at schools for an unspecified "time of probation". Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Alternative Unicode demo (was: Compelling Unicode demo)

eilpflanzen/Madesuss/madesuss.html Example: Bird German Höckerschwan Cygnus olor http://zoologie.forst.tu-muenchen.de/HEITLAND/BSWT /AVES/ANSERIFORMES/CYGNIDAE/CYGNUS/cygnus.olor_01.html Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: YO, ho ho, and a bottle of vodka

Howdy there... I've been following this thread about the deficiencies of Unicode, and its pretty much a hoot and a holler. If anyone can devise a better solution, please feel free to stage a coup d'etat and overthrow the hegemony of Unicode. I'm sure it could be done better: in an ideal world

Re: FW: A product compatibility question

and text direction", <http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/dirlang.html> from the HTML 4.01 specification (which also holds for standard XHTML 1.0 documents, cf. line 4 and 5 of <http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd>). Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: FW: Unicode and the UTF8 encoding in HTML

y complies, so the reader can make heads and tail of it. > This electronic communication is confidential and for the > exclusive use of the addressee. So you post it to a list read word-wide?? Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: (Typing wide characters in Windows)

ommended/ime/default.asp>. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Unicode in Asia Question

ssigned, see <http://www.unicode.org/unicode/reports/tr27/>. So you cannot ignore the fact that Unicode is more than a strict 16-bit encoding. See also <http://www.unicode.org/unicode/faq/>. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Euro sign in HTML

O 8859-15 and the previous sentence contains a true Euro symbol). Even "10,23 €", as displayed by pre-4.0 browsers, is legible to some extend. For an example of this technique, go to <http://www.rz.uni-konstanz.de/Antivirus/TVD/index.html#B-Lizenz>; you may wish to try this with your own browser. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Is there Unicode mail out there?

quot;. For "ordinary users", i. e., those users who don't have the TUS 3.0 tome lying next to their computers, a "last resort glyph" would probably be more helpful, cf. <http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/lr.html> and <http://fonts.apple.com/LastResort/LastResort.html>. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Eudora (was: Is there Unicode mail out there?)

ng. | | - In operating systems with sufficient UCS support (a UCS-aware | plain-text editor is the treshold), the product stores copies | of messages in a uniform UCS encoding. So far, Qualcom has not answered to this suggestion. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Is there Unicode mail out there?

rse), or whether this is possible at all. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

What about Webmail? (was: Is there Unicode mail out there?)

complain about this prevailing parochism in e-mail to WWW interfaces? Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Is there Unicode mail out there?

sender's message. And, > it won't cost you money. Same with Netscape 6.01; though it still has some teething problems. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Greek accents printing problem -- MS or HP problem?

Symbol). You may find more hints on <http://www.gottwein.de/Grie/Gr.Schrift.htm> (in German), <http://users.ox.ac.uk/~tayl0010/html_help.html>. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Playing with Unicode (was: Re: UTF-17)

As any profound schemes, this suggestion deserves a proper acronymic designator. I deem \u202AMUSED\u202C (acronymic mnemonics' unintended- semantics evading denotation) appropriate. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: XML Blueberry Requirements

ther character sets as possible (short of abandoning them altogether). The real discrepancy w. r. t. line-separators is between the MS-Windows and Unix worlds; a third system (such as EBCDIC) cannot serve both parties at the same time. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: First of many newbie questions

;. The missing item: keyboard input. Many keyboard drivers indeed implement diacritics via dead keys, i. e., you have to hit first the circumnflex key, then the "e" key, in order to enter U+00EA Latin small letter E with circumflex. However, this has nothing to do with Unicode decomposed characters. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Russian Unicode Convertion

e sequence as UTF-8. This will yield the sentence (in cyrillic; I transliterated it, so it won't be corrupted, again): Privet, Vadim! (in English: "Greetings, Vadim!") I have attached a table you can use to decipher the erroneous Freenet encoding. Enjoy! Best wishes (or should I

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