Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-04 Thread John Cowan
John Hudson scripsit: > You're wrong. There are now plenty of true italic (i.e. cursive) sans serif > fonts; it has been a couple of decades at least since obliqued roman went > out of style for sans serif typefaces. Ah, thanks. The old error surrenders, but never dies. -- Do what you will,

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-04 Thread John Hudson
At 05:03 AM 4/4/2003, John Cowan wrote: There are, strictly speaking (some typographer correct me please if I am wrong), no italic sans serif fonts, but only slanted sans serif fonts. You're wrong. There are now plenty of true italic (i.e. cursive) sans serif fonts; it has been a couple of decade

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-04 Thread Curtis Clark
John Cowan wrote: There are, strictly speaking (some typographer correct me please if I am wrong), no italic sans serif fonts, but only slanted sans serif fonts. I believe Adobe Myriad claims a "true italic"; the letterforms are sans versions of standard italic letterforms, rather than obliques of

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-04 Thread Michael Everson
At 08:03 -0500 2003-04-04, John Cowan wrote: There are, strictly speaking (some typographer correct me please if I am wrong), no italic sans serif fonts, but only slanted sans serif fonts. "Oblique" -- Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http://www.evertype.com

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-04 Thread John Cowan
William Overington scripsit: > How should that be set in Unicode plain text? Is it to use the letters for > cos from the range U+0020 to U+007E and then use U+1D466 for the y and > U+1D465 for the x? Just so. > I note that U+1D465 MATHEMATICAL ITALIC SMALL X in the code chart has the > followin

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-04 Thread William Overington
Stefan Persson wrote as follows. quote Well, let's say that I make a plain text document and include a mathematical formula or funtion such as "cos x", it would still be legal to use an italic "x" from the mathematical block, wouldn't it? This is what those characters are intended for, right? e

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-04 Thread William Overington
Doug Ewell wrote as follows. >I'll mail it, or maybe repost it, after I finish applying a nice, THICK >coating. I'm thinking about one of those expired-shareware message >boxes where the OK button is disabled for the first five seconds. > >But I'd like to get this third-subtag question resolved f

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-04 Thread William Overington
Doug Ewell wrote as follows. quote What happened to LTag? Well, as everybody knows, the Unicode Technical Committee strongly discourages the usage of these tags, to the point were they were almost deprecated earlier this year. They are permitted only in "special protocols," and are certainly fr

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-04 Thread John Cowan
Doug Ewell scripsit: > > Tags constructed wholly from the codes that are assigned > > interpretations by this chapter do not need to be registered with > > IANA before use. > > Does the "-ny" subtag fail this criterion because RFC 3066 does not > explicitly assign the ISO 3166-2 interpretation?

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-03 Thread Doug Ewell
Stefan Persson wrote: > Well, let's say that I make a plain text document and include a > mathematical formula or funtion such as "cos x", it would still be > legal to use an italic "x" from the mathematical block, wouldn't it? > This is what those characters are intended for, right? Absolutely.

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-03 Thread Doug Ewell
John Cowan wrote: >> ISO 3166-2 country >> subdivision codes were included too, so codes like en-us-ny (for New >> York English) could be constructed. > > In fact "en-us-ny" is syntactically well-formed, but cannot be used > unless registered with IANA, as it does not belong to the set of > prere

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-03 Thread Pim Blokland
Doug Ewell schreef: > they also should not use Mathematical Alphanumeric Symbols > to create bold, italic, or double-struck effects in plain text. Why not? I mean, I understand the Mathematical symbols are not intended for use as styled versions of normal text, but I read between the lines that

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-03 Thread Rick McGowan
Pim Blokland wrote: Doug Ewell schreef: they also should not use Mathematical Alphanumeric Symbols to create bold, italic, or double-struck effects in plain text. Why not? Because they are not regular alphanumeric characters, they are Math Symbols and they have different properties. They

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-03 Thread John Cowan
Stefan Persson scripsit: > Well, let's say that I make a plain text document and include a > mathematical formula or funtion such as "cos x", it would still be legal > to use an italic "x" from the mathematical block, wouldn't it? This is > what those characters are intended for, right? Indee

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-03 Thread Stefan Persson
Doug Ewell wrote: Just as users should not fling Plane 14 language tags around in plain text, they also should not use Mathematical Alphanumeric Symbols to create bold, italic, or double-struck effects in plain text. In case this is not clear, the user interface and operability of MathText is ver

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-03 Thread John Cowan
Doug Ewell scripsit: > ISO 3166-2 country > subdivision codes were included too, so codes like en-us-ny (for New > York English) could be constructed. In fact "en-us-ny" is syntactically well-formed, but cannot be used unless registered with IANA, as it does not belong to the set of preregister

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-03 Thread Doug Ewell
William Overington wrote: > Have you considered the possibility of a similar program to encode a > string of ASCII characters as plane 14 tags please, with an option > checkbox to include the U+E0001 character at the start and an option > checkbox to include a U+E007F character? That would be a

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-03 Thread Michael Everson
At 4:11 PM +0100 4/3/03, William Overington wrote: U+10F703 PEA U+10F740 PEAS IN A POD Surely one would use the GCJ with the first, in order to form the last of these. Oh, sorry. Wrong date. -- Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http://www.evertype.com

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-03 Thread William Overington
In the interests of some fun research in the hope that the fun will lead to learning in some serendipitous manner I am starting off some Private Use Area codes for vegetables. U+10F700 POTATO U+10F701 CARROT U+10F702 PARSNIP U+10F703 PEA U+10F740 PEAS IN A POD U+10F780 LEAF OF MINT U+10F781 LEAF

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-03 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "William Overington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It certainly is exciting! Whoosh! MichKa

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-03 Thread William Overington
It certainly is exciting! I learn a lot from your fun Doug. I remember when we had The Respectfully Experiment and I asked you how you managed to get the U+E707 character into your message and you mentioned the SC UniPad program from the http://www.unipad.org webspace. That program is very usefu

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-02 Thread Curtis Clark
Doug Ewell wrote: I see a few people have actually downloaded MathText and tried it out. I thought it would make a better joke to actually implement the thing, complete with UI mini-frills (icons to indicate scripts supported by the chosen style, selectable Unicode 3.x/4.x conversion to SCRIPT SMAL

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-02 Thread Doug Ewell
Stefan Persson wrote: > This program looks good; however, it would be nice if it could convert > e.g. "ä" into "a"+combining diæresis instead of just keeping it in the > normal style. "ä" needs to be supported by mathematical fonts in any > case, as it is often used to indicate d²a/dt² where t r

Re: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-02 Thread Stefan Persson
Doug Ewell wrote: Finally! The freedom to express yourself with bold, italic, Fraktur and more... all in plain text! Give Notepad the workout it was meant to have! Give your fancy page layout software the afternoon off! Give standardizers a migraine! This program looks good; however, it would

RE: Exciting new software release!

2003-04-01 Thread Marco Cimarosti
Doug Ewell wrote: > Drop everything and check out a kewl new Windows program available at: > > http://users.adelphia.net/~dewell/mathtext.html ℜ𝔬𝔱𝔣𝔩! _ Marco