Re: Spiral symbol

2019-02-19 Thread wjgo_10...@btinternet.com via Unicode
I seem to remember from reading a book many years ago, maybe around fifty years ago, something about one of the early chemists (Lavoisier?) having used two symbols, each a spiral, mirror images of each other, for two different things, maybe oxidation and reduction, in his manuscript but he had

Re: Spiral symbol

2019-02-18 Thread Michael Everson via Unicode
Emoji proposals aren’t notable for their uniform quality. There are guidelines, but essentially the subcommittee approves things they like and don’t approve things they don’t like. > On 18 Feb 2019, at 12:52, Andrés Sanhueza via Unicode > wrote: > > I understand the difference. My question wa

Re: Spiral symbol

2019-02-18 Thread Andrés Sanhueza via Unicode
I understand the difference. My question was why it was needed to have both spirals as different characters instead of a single one that can be either, as the proposal didn't specify an use case where there is a semantic difference between each one. El sáb., 16 feb. 2019 a las 11:26, Michael Ever

Re: Spiral symbol

2019-02-16 Thread Michael Everson via Unicode
> Question: Why both a right and left facing spiral are exactly need? Isn't a > single one (whose direction is just a glyph variant) enough? There was a > previous thread that also suggested these very symbols, but otherwise I have > found no evidence of the specific need for it. Clockwise and

Re: Spiral symbol

2019-02-15 Thread Andrés Sanhueza via Unicode
El mar., 22 ene. 2013 a las 19:11, Karl Pentzlin () escribió: > Am Dienstag, 22. Januar 2013 um 01:11 schrieb Andrés Sanhueza: > > AS> I have wondered if it may be a good idea to make a proposal to an > AS> "spiral" character, basically because I believe is the only mayor > AS> symbol recurrently

Re: Ideograms (was: Spiral symbol)

2013-02-08 Thread William_J_G Overington
>> I feel that it would be helpful if there were symbols that could be used in >> a non-language-specific manner for phrases such as "Hello" and "Thank you" >> and "Best regards," and so on. > Most ideographs in use are pictographs, for obvious reasons. But it would be > nice indeed to have ide

RE: External Link (Was: Spiral symbol)

2013-01-31 Thread Michel Suignard
acceptance in the UTC. Michel From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Asmus Freytag Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 7:08 PM To: Mark E. Shoulson Cc: Deborah W. Anderson; unicode@unicode.org Subject: Re: External Link (Was: Spiral symbol) On 1/31/2013 5:55

Re: External Link (Was: Spiral symbol)

2013-01-31 Thread Asmus Freytag
On 1/31/2013 5:55 PM, Mark E. Shoulson wrote: So if a generic "external link" symbol isn't acceptable, I definitely see reason for at least the adoption of box-with-arrow, possibly *called* EXTERNAL LINK or something. Make that: possibly "aliased" or "annotated" as one of the symbols used to i

Re: External Link (Was: Spiral symbol)

2013-01-31 Thread Mark E. Shoulson
On 01/31/2013 08:36 PM, Asmus Freytag wrote: Mark, in my view, the key aspect of the notice cited by Debbie, is the rejection of an "external link" semantic, which would act as a kind of generic code and could be rendered in many different ways. Fair enough, I guess. I think we've done some

Re: External Link (Was: Spiral symbol)

2013-01-31 Thread Asmus Freytag
inal Message- From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Mark E. Shoulson Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:27 PM To: unicode@unicode.org Subject: External Link (Was: Spiral symbol) I found myself the other day looking once again for the character representation of th

RE: External Link (Was: Spiral symbol)

2013-01-31 Thread Deborah W. Anderson
...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Mark E. Shoulson Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:27 PM To: unicode@unicode.org Subject: External Link (Was: Spiral symbol) I found myself the other day looking once again for the character representation of the "external link&

Re: External Link (Was: Spiral symbol)

2013-01-31 Thread Joó Ádám
Maybe it is more along the lines of EXTERNAL CONTEXT SYMBOL. Á

Re: External Link (Was: Spiral symbol)

2013-01-31 Thread Joó Ádám
I’ve just realized that Google Analytics uses the exact same symbol to indicate popup windows. Á

Re: External Link (Was: Spiral symbol)

2013-01-31 Thread Joó Ádám
I have a strong feeling that the symbol has a broader meaning than merely denoting external links. I would suggest examining symbols used in place of the phrase “see” in encyclopaedia, which indicate the presence of more information in some other place. Á

Re: External Link (Was: Spiral symbol)

2013-01-31 Thread William_J_G Overington
I remember that I made a font at the time. http://forum.high-logic.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1208 While opening the font in the FontCreator program this morning from the list of installed fonts on the computer that I an using, I found that there is also another font, External Link Symbol in a fi

External Link (Was: Spiral symbol)

2013-01-30 Thread Mark E. Shoulson
I found myself the other day looking once again for the character representation of the "external link" sign so prevalent on Wikipedia and Mathworld and other sites. There has got to be enough evidence for recording something like this. And I've seen a proposal for it too! http://www.unicode

Re: Ideograms (was: Spiral symbol)

2013-01-30 Thread Tim Greenwood
A very accessible book on all this is "The Chinese Language: Fact and Fantasy" by John De Francis, published in 1984 by University of Hawaii Press. There is a brief synopsis on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chinese_Language:_Fact_and_Fantasy - Tim On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:46 PM,

Re: Ideograms (was: Spiral symbol)

2013-01-30 Thread John H. Jenkins
On 2013年1月30日, at 上午4:50, Andreas Stötzner wrote: > Most ideographs in use are pictographs, for obvious reasons. But it would be > nice indeed to have ideograms for “thanks”, 謝 > “please”, 請 > “yes”, 對 > “no”, 不 > “perhaps” 許 > – all those common notions which cannot be de-*picted* in

Re: Ideograms (was: Spiral symbol)

2013-01-30 Thread William_J_G Overington
Thank you for your comments. Here are some pictographs displayed well in Google street view. http://maps.google.com/?ll=47.279364,0.421498&spn=0.001321,0.002248&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=47.279429,0.420475&panoid=Q_-nApHRA1Aq9IN4YPRzGQ&cbp=12,175.95,,0,4.88 Zooming-in three times is possible. One c

Ideograms (was: Spiral symbol)

2013-01-30 Thread Andreas Stötzner
Am 30.01.2013 um 12:56 schrieb William_J_G Overington: > I feel that it would be helpful if there were symbols that could be used in a > non-language-specific manner for phrases such as "Hello" and "Thank you" and > "Best regards," and so on. But there are, plenty of it. Though not yet for the

Re: Spiral symbol

2013-01-30 Thread William_J_G Overington
On Tuesday 22 January 2013, Karl Pentzlin wrote: > If you have no access to the L2 document list, you can find the document at > http://www.pentzlin.com/ComicSymbolsV2.pdf . > > - Karl Thank you. The pdf made by me on 3 June 2011 with the file name locse010_art.pdf might be of interest as it

Re: Spiral symbol

2013-01-22 Thread Karl Pentzlin
Am Dienstag, 22. Januar 2013 um 01:11 schrieb Andrés Sanhueza: AS> I have wondered if it may be a good idea to make a proposal to an AS> "spiral" character, basically because I believe is the only mayor AS> symbol recurrently used for represent "swearing" in comics that's AS> missing from Unicode.

Re: Spiral symbol

2013-01-22 Thread Frédéric Grosshans
Le 22/01/2013 01:11, Andrés Sanhueza a écrit : I have wondered if it may be a good idea to make a proposal to an "spiral" character, You might be interested by this 2011 thread on the mailing list, which was about the way do encode symbols : http://www.unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2011-m

Re: Spiral symbol

2013-01-22 Thread Buck Golemon
These may be a suitable standins in the mean time :P http://shapecatcher.com/unicode/info/127845 http://shapecatcher.com/unicode/info/127744 On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Asmus Freytag wrote: > On 1/21/2013 4:11 PM, Andrés Sanhueza wrote: > >> Hello. >> I have wondered if it may be a good

Re: Spiral symbol

2013-01-21 Thread Asmus Freytag
On 1/21/2013 4:11 PM, Andrés Sanhueza wrote: Hello. I have wondered if it may be a good idea to make a proposal to an "spiral" character, basically because I believe is the only mayor symbol recurrently used for represent "swearing" in comics that's missing from Unicode. If it should come to

Spiral symbol

2013-01-21 Thread Andrés Sanhueza
Hello. I have wondered if it may be a good idea to make a proposal to an "spiral" character, basically because I believe is the only mayor symbol recurrently used for represent "swearing" in comics that's missing from Unicode. Most of the time it is replaced with the more common at (@), but still a