Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-20 Thread James Kass
Michael Kaplan wrote, > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Yes, we'll there's something weird about your pages because I've done > > those things, and I can't even view plane 0 Chinese characters in those > > pages properly, regardless of whether I use the font-specified, > > no-font-specified or we

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-20 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Yes, we'll there's something weird about your pages because I've done > those things, and I can't even view plane 0 Chinese characters in those > pages properly, regardless of whether I use the font-specified, > no-font-specified or weft versions. You mean Extension A

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-20 Thread Peter_Constable
On 11/20/2001 11:10:31 AM "Michael \(michka\) Kaplan" wrote: >You understand thatr that page and the rest of that site are a translation >of the help file for the IME and font that are shipped with Office XP >CHS/CHT multilanguage packs. I figured it was something like that. I'm concluding that

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-20 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >On this page, (all-on-one-line) > > > >http://www.i18nwithvb.com/surrogate_ime/code_charts/05.asp?nofont > > > >...you can try to duplicate the effect on M.E. in MSIE 5.5 > > Well, I'm running Win2000, and I have yet to succeed in viewing plane 2 > characters. (Plane

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-20 Thread Peter_Constable
On 11/19/2001 10:49:18 PM "James Kass" wrote: >>Which leads me to be sceptical and wonder how you >> know that those are plane 2 characters if they only appear as momentarily >> flickers? > >Easy, I made the font that's being momentarily displayed. Also, >depending upon when the mouse is releas

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-19 Thread James Kass
> I also added stuff to the registry per the Microsoft instructions > for enabling "surrogates" on W2K. Uh, just the MSIE Scripts 42 items, there is no NT registry key in M.E. to modify. Best regards, James Kass.

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-19 Thread James Kass
Peter Constable wrote, > > I'm surprised that plane 2 characters can show up at all on WinMe. I was dumfounded. > This > isn't an IE or Uniscribe issue, it'd a GDI issue: something has to do the > cmap lookup, and that something has to be able to handle the newer cmap > formats that support s

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-19 Thread Peter_Constable
On 11/18/2001 10:23:47 PM James Kass wrote: >If a Plane Two character can flicker on-and-off in MSIE 5.5 >on Win M.E., then this OS and browser should be able to >display non-BMP text without any problem. I'm surprised that plane 2 characters can show up at all on WinMe. This isn't an IE or Uni

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-19 Thread James Kass
Doug Ewell wrote, > > Delaying this support any further will only cause headaches for the CJK users > who can't view or print their personal name logographs encoded in the SIP, > and who will find some way to blame Unicode for this. > And, it's not just those millions of CJK users to contend

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-18 Thread James Kass
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "James Kass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Tex Texin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Unicoders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 7:45 PM Subject: Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo > Wel

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-18 Thread DougEwell2
In a message dated 2001-11-18 19:49:08 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Surely, the browser's lack of ability in being able to handle > UTF-8 for Plane One, while handling UTF-8 for Plane Two > just fine (on W2K), is a bug that should be fixed. It also > illustrates that n

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-18 Thread James Kass
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Tex Texin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Unicoders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 2:46 PM Subject: Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo > Microsoft does not say this will work and do not expect it t

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-18 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
lan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Tex Texin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Unicoders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 8:23 PM Subject: Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo > If a Plane Two character can flicker on-and-off i

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-18 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
"Michael (michka) Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Tex Texin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Unicoders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 7:48 PM Subject: Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo > > Michael Kaplan w

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-18 Thread Lars Marius Garshol
* Tex Texin | | Has anyone been able to create HTML pages that use surrogate | characters and get them to work with any of the browsers? I've had Opera 6.0 display the UTF-16 text file that comes with James Kass's Code 2001 font. I've also been able to display Deseret characters both from text g

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-17 Thread James Kass
James Kass wrote, > Still haven't been able to display non-BMP text in MSIE on W2K here. Plane Two displays in MSIE 5.00 on W2K, once a Plane Two font is, uh, installed. Plane One doesn't. Best regards, James Kass.

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-17 Thread James Kass
Michael Kaplan wrote, > When I did have this working, I had the config as shown at the following > site; further respondent sayeth naught: > > http://www.i18nwithvb.com/surrogate_ime/code_charts/ > > I was at that time running Win2000 SP2, IE 5.5, and a version of WEFT. > For what it's worth

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-17 Thread Tex Texin
"Michael (michka) Kaplan" wrote: > > The instructions should work for XP. > > I would argue that it is up to the client, and the browser, to figure out > how to display things. Isn't it? :-) Absolutely. I realize its not my personal responsibility to make the browsers display surrogates, it i

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-17 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
TED]> Cc: "Unicoders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo > > "Michael (michka) Kaplan" wrote: > > > > The instructions should work for XP. > > > > I wo

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-17 Thread James Kass
Michael Kaplan wrote, > The instructions should work for XP. > > I would argue that it is up to the client, and the browser, to figure out > how to display things. Isn't it? :-) > It is. But, perhaps Tex Texin is anticipating that if he puts data in the web page which displays as little boxes

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-17 Thread Tex Texin
James I am using IE 5.5 with no luck. James Kass wrote: > > Michael Kaplan wrote, > > > The instructions should work for XP. > > > > I would argue that it is up to the client, and the browser, to figure out > > how to display things. Isn't it? :-) > > > > It is. But, perhaps Tex Texin is anti

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-17 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
://www.trigeminal.com/ - Original Message - From: "James Kass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Michael (michka) Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Tex Texin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Unicoders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 17,

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-17 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
AIL PROTECTED]> To: "Unicoders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 9:22 AM Subject: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo > I have a candidate to go into the demo in Etruscan which requires > surrogates. I am not able to get a browser to

Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-17 Thread Tex Texin
I have a candidate to go into the demo in Etruscan which requires surrogates. I am not able to get a browser to properly display the characters although I have a font (James Kass Code2001) and it displays ok in Wordpad. I am using Win2000. Has anyone been able to create HTML pages that use surrog