In a message dated 5/23/2007 11:18:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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does anyone know how/where/when this official statement will
be made public?
The UCReview did carry it in the article. It was one paragraph near the end.
And Tony is correct in that UCD wasn't
It should be on their web-site, why should we
search around for it.
S
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They could, I suppose. But since they gave the statement to the Review, and
the Review published it, and the Review is online, you can read it at
www.weeklypress.com.
-- Tony West
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John Ellingsworth wrote:
http://www.citypaper.net/articles/2007/05/17/knoxs-landing
also in the dp:
http://tinyurl.com/27da9p
..
UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
[aka laserbeam®]
[aka ray]
SERIAL LIAR. CALL FOR RATES.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
does anyone know how/where/when this official statement will
be made public?
The UCReview did carry it in the article. It was one paragraph near the end.
yes, I saw that, but do we know if that was the whole
statement? the uc
The DP article seems to present it as politician dupes local good-guy into
helping out disguised political ralley
the malcom x park web page says that a church group was indeed having an event
in the park that day and had reserved the gazebo. though i also have problems
with UCD helping out a
Al, I will support your comments below.
My point is..while they are not obligated..it is just common sense
relationship and image management to do so. It makes it so shady
not to have transparency on their web-site.
Typical of UCD. I just don't get them at all. From a business
perspective
it
Oh..I forgot..where is their statement again?
They probably just don't want to draw attention to it. 99% of the people in
this neighborhood, I'll bet, have zero idea that this is happening. I think any
PR flackette, whether trying to scrape by on $74,000 a year or not, would
advise don't
Kyle, your comments would make sense if ABC News,
Daily News, DP, UC-Review (cover story), City Paper
had not covered the story and it was just gossip.
Once it broke in The Daily News, they should have
prepared a coherent statement for the public via their
web-site supporting John until
Kyle Cassidy wrote:
They probably just don't want to draw attention to it. 99% of the
people in this neighborhood, I'll bet, have zero idea that this is
happening. I think any PR flackette, whether trying to scrape by on
$74,000 a year or not, would advise don't make a lot of noise about
So what would Laserbeam PR do if you'd been hired by UCD to deal with this?
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you've just described exactly what a pr professional
SHOULDN'T do.
In a message dated 5/24/07 11:07:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So what would Laserbeam PR do if you'd been hired by UCD to deal with this?
You know, I asked this question a couple of days ago, and Krigman Al
suggested that we withhold our judgment.
Since then, everybody's been rushing
so what's dishonest about issuing a statement to the media saying we're
conducting an investigation?
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In a
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In a message dated 5/24/2007 11:17:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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Since then, everybody's been rushing to judge.
I was suggesting we withhold judgement on John Fenton because we didn't know
the facts (although they've slowly been emerging).
What's going on now
I read your questions regarding the logic behind the UCD's responses to the
Fenton debacle. I see the whole event differently and I'll need a bit of a
far reaching analogy to get my point across:
Imagine the mountains of Afghanistan and a group of our Special Forces is
trying to get
I think I may have asked this before, Al, but how much do you make? I
just want to know so that I can call you the $xxx,xxx,xxx landlord
instead of referring to you by name.
- Mike V.
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Some job descriptions are more difficult to define than others, but I
think it is fair to say...
... Once salary is accepted, work-effort is required.
Most of us know that it is not possible to please all of the people, all
of the time.
And many of us have learned to handle the rewards and
Apparently when Honest Al Krigman asks How are you doing?, he
expects a full report on your health, how much you're paying your
doctor, a listing of potential risk factors and a stool sample.
- Mike V.
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In a message dated 5/24/2007 11:30:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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I think I may have asked this before, Al, but how much do you make? I just
want to know so that I can call you the $xxx,xxx,xxx landlord instead of
referring to you by name.
When my income is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
/So what would Laserbeam PR do if you'd been hired by UCD to deal with
this?/
You know, I asked this question a couple of days ago, and Krigman Al
suggested that we withhold our judgment.
Since then, everybody's been rushing to judge.
Come on, Al. How about a little honesty and candor here?
- Mike V.
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In a
Deal.
That is a very attractive idea indeed.
The only way that could possibly come into being in real life, though, is if
UCD becomes primarily, or significantly, funded by us.
Do you have any suggestions on how that might be arranged, Ray? I'm not
demanding final, flawless blueprints ...
Here is what I would have done:
1) Not suspended John at all. Why? Because suspending him with pay
sends mixed messages.
If he is presumed innocent then why suspend, if he is presumed guilty
then why with pay?
2) Keeping John working says..we are not going to make a big deal
out of
Ray wrote:
I'll certainly share ideas onlist with people about what those
responsibilities are, what we expect, etc. -- so long as we're sharing
and not arguing. deal?
I'll begin:
1. ucd is primarily accountable to us, not to ucd.
Anthony West wrote:
Deal.
That is a very attractive
UCD management is accountable to it's Board of Directors.
UCD management by mission is accountable in part to those it
services through geographic boundaries, it's relationships of
support (which would include ALL the local politicians), and
individuals who donate money to supplement the
On this nice block (around the corner from where I live) a few months ago some
buildings had new signs out front indicating they were managed by the
Neighborhood Preservation Fund or some such thing. (Normally this would
suggest to me an organization that had no interest in preservation.)
I believe that the 501c3 status comes from the Feds, not the state. It is
federal taxes that contributions to such organizations can be exempted from,
not state taxes.
I suspect the possibility of this incident arousing enough interest in a
Federal (anything) to prompt some action is near
In a message dated 5/24/2007 3:08:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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On this nice block (around the corner from where I live) a few months ago
some buildings had new signs out front indicating they were managed by the
Neighborhood Preservation Fund or some such
In a message dated 5/24/2007 3:22:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I suspect the possibility of this incident arousing enough interest in a
Federal (anything) to prompt some action is near zero, but maybe I lack
imagination. Not saying that there wasn’t a situation
Q: Do all states require a registration?
A: Most states have some type of registration or filing process. It is
necessary for organizations
contemplating fundraising activities in other states to research the
individual state reporting
requirements to ensure compliance prior to soliciting.
Q:
Same at the corner of 45th and Chester although I think the sign is
still there.
Vanessa Albert Lowry
Greenberg Traurig, LLP
Two Commerce Square
2001 Market Street
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19103
215-988-7811
fax:215-988-7801/rightfax 215-717-5233
Dang, they're grinding that thing into the dust, aren't they?
Sales History:
Sale Date: 5/30/2006
Sale Price: $1
Sale Type: Market Sale
Sale Date: 1/15/1999
Sale Price: $64,500
Sale Type: Market Sale
Sale Date: 12/5/1986
Sale Price: $134,500
Sale Type: Market Sale
In a message dated 5/24/2007 11:52:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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Denise King presents Friday Night Jazz@ CEDAR PARK...FREE Jazz concerts
featuring Nationally and Internationally Renown Artists. Memorial Day weekend
May
25, 2007-Labor Day weekend August 31,
We are going to try to do T-ball for kids and parents in Clark Park
again this year on Saturdays, starting June 2nd, at 10am. Meet by the
turtle and bring whatever equipment you have. Several people have
indicated interst; so please show up; it should be fun.
Vanessa Albert Lowry
Greenberg
So let's continue, Ray. Can you please (insert whom), for starters? If you
want UCD to be more accountable to (whom) than it now is, how might you
define (whom) and how would (who) pay money to UCD, so that it might be held
more accountable to them?
This is necessary question if we are to
Yeah..but that is the point Al..Did someone file a complaint and if so
where or what is the evidence? And..If so ..than why not just say so?
It is not likely the person who spoke to the news filed a complaint, he
probably would have said so. If he did file a complaint than it was so
not smart to
I think Sharrif already answered that very well. UCD's accountable to the
people who are paying for it to exist. It's a private entity. In order for it
to be beholden to the people who live in the area bounded by the UCD it would
have to be funded by the public. Until that time, they can do
In a message dated 5/24/2007 4:24:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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Yeah..but that is the point Al..Did someone file a complaint and if so
where or what is the evidence? And..If so ..than why not just say so?
I have no idea whether anybody has, at this point.
But,
In a message dated 5/24/2007 4:37:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 5/24/2007 4:24:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yeah..but that is the point Al..Did someone file a complaint and if so
where or what is the evidence?
In a message dated 5/24/2007 4:27:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think Sharrif already answered that very well. UCD's accountable to the
people who are paying for it to exist. It's a private entity. In order for it
to be beholden to the people who live in the
In a message dated 5/24/2007 4:46:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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Why pretend to wait?
Are you calling me a liar?
Al K
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In a message dated 5/24/2007 4:56:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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Why pretend to wait?
Are you calling me a liar?
Nope, just lining up the statements and asking a rhetorical question.
Bruce McCullough
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Anthony West wrote:
So let's continue, Ray. Can you please (insert whom), for starters? If
you want UCD to be more accountable to (whom) than it now is, how might
you define (whom) and how would (who) pay money to UCD, so that it might
be held more accountable to them?
This is necessary
i agree -- if we're talking about the political rally -- i was strictly
answering ray's question about UCD being able to operate outside the boundaries
of the district.
and likewise, if it was the _church_ who invited jannie and tom to speak, they
should also lose their 501c tax exempt status.
Kyle Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and likewise, if it was the _church_ who invited jannie and tom to speak,
they should also lose their 501c tax exempt status.
As long as the church invited all of the candidates to their rally and
offered them all equal time with equal terms, they should
In all fairness, to distinguish UCD from us implies that UCD is not a part
of us. If by us you mean readers of this listserve, then a few days ago
you noted some UCD workers are part of us. Surely that's not what you're
wishing to say now, though.
So define an us that is not UCD, that UCD can
Actually, it¹s sounds like what happens downtown¹; ³Yo, I took care of dat
ting for youse.²
The UCD should either be above that or declare their intentions all along.
I feel for John Fenton.
On 5/24/07 11:05 AM, Kyle Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So what would Laserbeam PR do if you'd
I'd rather see graffiti than 90% of the murals in the city. At least
there's no sappy message involved.
Frank
On May 24, 2007, at 06:57 PM, Turner,Kathleen wrote:
To change the subject for awhile . . .
Quite an idea the UC Review had with their Graffiti Watch feature
-- best tag of the
Or this one:
*Is it okay to sleep with my broker to get a better deal on an apartment?*
It's okay to sleep with them, but it's not going to guarantee you a better
deal. Generally all brokers cut commissions to make a deal regardless. We
don't control it. Overall, it comes down to the owner and
Shouldn¹t this pump up the volume, so to speak?
I have lived through the original ubiquitous graffiti person in
Philadelphia: ³Bobby Beck² . Later it was ³Cool Earl², Chewy² and
³Cornbread.²
It escalated from there. I do not wish to revisit those days.
I make it a habit to wipe out tags as
Do these d'uh moments make us feel more
Stupid,
at least those of us that missed the obvious, or
Lucky
to be surrounded by smart folks who help connect the
dots?
On Thu, 24 May 2007 18:57:16 -0400 Turner,Kathleen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.nerve.com/regulars/sexadvicefrom/realestateagents/
Somehow, it seemed _right_ for this list.
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On 5/24/07, Turner,Kathleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To change the subject for awhile . . .
Quite an idea the UC Review had with their Graffiti Watch feature --
best tag of the week gets a photo on the front page.
I can see this being a BIG disincentive to the neighborhood graffiti
artists.
Best piece of advice so far:
*Real-estate agents have a reputation for being sleazy. How can I make being
sleazy work to my advantage when trying to get laid?*
Keep the sleaze out of work, but definitely keep it in the bedroom. I always
need to find new ways to keep things interesting. Those
Brian,
Did you find the answers you were searching for or do you need advice
from agents a little closer to home?
Robin
On May 24, 2007, at 7:26 PM, Brian Siano wrote:
http://www.nerve.com/regulars/sexadvicefrom/realestateagents/
Somehow, it seemed _right_ for this list.
You are
Anthony West wrote:
In all fairness, to distinguish UCD from us implies that UCD is not a
part of us. If by us you mean readers of this listserve, then a few
days ago you noted some UCD workers are part of us. Surely that's not
what you're wishing to say now, though.
So define an us that is
Kyle Cassidy wrote:
I think Sharrif already answered that very well. UCD's
accountable to the people who are paying for it to exist.
It's a private entity. In order for it to be beholden to
the people who live in the area bounded by the UCD it
would have to be funded by the public. Until that
This is, overall, the best sexual advice I have read anywhere since I took
up editing in 1981. I have no personal interest in sex, of course, but I'm a
compulsive reader of columnists wherever I find them. So it does place the
real estate agent in a new light. Let's not burn up the likes of
Turner,Kathleen wrote:
To change the subject for awhile . . .
Quite an idea the UC Review had with their Graffiti Watch feature --
best tag of the week gets a photo on the front page.
I can see this being a BIG disincentive to the neighborhood graffiti
artists.
Cornbread rides again?
Can anyone recommend a clean, safe, affordable (pick 2 of 3 if
necessary) self storage facility in the area? It doesn't have to be
in West Philadelphia, but somewhere within a few miles would be good.
I'm looking for about 75 square feet.
Thanks,
Matthew
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*Where can I have sex?*
If you are staying with a host family, your landlord or landlady may not
want their children to be aware of your sexual behaviour.
You should ask your landlord/landlady for permission before letting someone
else stay overnight in your room. If this starts to happen
On 5/24/07, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and let's calm down about taking the heat. this is an open
conversation, remember, not an argument.
Right. Arguments are in 12A, down the hall:
Q: WHAT DO YOU WANT?
M: Well, I was told outside that...
Q: Don't give me that, you
As a park activist, I'd have to say this argument is thin. If you serve a
community of residents within certain boundaries, but one of their dedicated
facilities lies one block beyond those boundaries, a wise and responsible
community organization will seek to extend them some coverage. It's
Right-there is a state registration process, although I'm not sure what the
rules are for charitable fundraising-but that is what the state regulates.
The Feds regulate the issues relating to the organizations activities and
whether they fit the definition of 501c3 tax exempt organizations.
I hate to say this, but it seems to me that you need to file whatever it is
you are going to file now I'll be interested to see what comes of
it-nothing good, I believe. I don't expect any organization to release
details of internal investigations. You've read as much as the press is
likely to
This is another example of an area with specific boundaries that you
have decided don't exist because you don't want them to exist. You've
even decided that your opinion is that of most people in the
neighborhood and you imply that those who disagree are insane. The
arrogance I see in this
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