[UC] Redoubling my resolve - inept & shameful

2007-09-11 Thread Craigsolve
Senator Casey: I was most disappointed with the content and quality of your emailed 09/11 communique, Redoubling my Resolve. Since I can not believe such a work product is yours, I urge you to do two things: 1) read Obama's much more effective outstanding piece, which I have appended be

Re: [UC] Tony, Purple, & Villanova - was - the defectors to UCNeighbors

2007-09-11 Thread Anthony West
Get it about the filtering, etc., Frank. Still, many posters report they don't use listserves that way. They want to be able to scan a field of social incoming without constantly having to filter out objectionable public behavior. For them, internet public spaces that are responsive to consensu

Re: [UC] Tony, Purple, & Villanova - was - the defectors to UCNeighbors

2007-09-11 Thread Frank
DeSales and Dahlak are public spaces?? The owners of Dahlak can refuse admission to practically anyone, I think, as long as they are not "discriminating." DeSales is probably given even more leeway. I'm not sure about Locust Walk. Is it a city street or is it privately- owned? I've posted

Re: [UC] the defectors to UCNeighbors (was: Yet more help from Hollywood)

2007-09-11 Thread Anthony West
I never saw any statement by Kyle that he is opposed to the expression of particular views or issues. It is the manner in which they are expressed that disturbed him, and everybody else I know who has complained about UC-list manners. Manners are to some degree subjective, but are fundamentall

Re: [UC] Tony, Purple, & Villanova - was - the defectors to UCNeighbors

2007-09-11 Thread Anthony West
I don't know what I mean, Craig. That seemed to be the gist of what UC-list "was", on some level, when I first raised the question a month or so ago. Your added details are informative and appreciated. My main purpose in bringing this up is to dig into the true meaning of the word "public". It

[UC] For Wilma & other youth workers

2007-09-11 Thread Craigsolve
According to a news report, a certain school in Garden City, MI was recently faced with a unique problem. A number of 12-year-old girls were beginning to use lipstick and would put it on in the washroom.That was fine, but after they put on their lipstick they would press their lips to the m

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2007-09-11 Thread Dan Widyono
I'd second this general recommendation. I and three friends got a fantastic deal several years ago in a quaint B&B owned and operated by this really sweet older couple, right outside of Lancaster. The area was really nice and gentle, and made for a very nice change of pace from the city. :) Dan

[UC] Tony, Purple, & Villanova - was - the defectors to UCNeighbors

2007-09-11 Thread Craigsolve
In a message dated 9/11/2007 4:46:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Furthermore, it is not really true that "this is not a private business." Villanova University, which hosts this list, is a private entity. Tony: Would you please define what you mean by "hosts this

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2007-09-11 Thread Joshua Karstendick
Within a couple hours' drive is a large radius. I'd recommend heading out toward the Lancaster area. There's a nice B&B in Lebanon County called the Inn on 422. I'm not sure about price, though. Joshua Karstendick Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2007, at 4:57 PM, "S. Scheckter" <[EMAIL P

Re: [UC] the defectors to UCNeighbors (was: Yet more help from Hollywood)

2007-09-11 Thread Wilma de Soto
Tony, I am not arguing for or against moderated forums. Indeed, I have been and still am a member of several moderated forums. Still, the original UC Listserv that Jeff Abrahamson made available here was borne of the Spruce Hill Listserv. Never mind which forms it took before it went public. I

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2007-09-11 Thread S. Scheckter
hi, all, i know this might be a bit off-topic, but i thought i'd ask: i'm looking for a bed & breakfast in the region (within a couple hours' drive of the city), ideally not in the city itself, for a visit in october. affordability (less than $100/night) is a consideration. thanks so much fo

Re: [UC] the defectors to UCNeighbors (was: Yet more help from Hollywood)

2007-09-11 Thread Anthony West
We neighbors can exchange thoughts, opinions and jokes in the back room at Dahlak just as well, can't we? Furthermore, it is not really true that "this is not a private business." Villanova University, which hosts this list, is a private entity. Spruce Hill Community Ass'n, which sponsored UC-

Re: [UC] the defectors to UCNeighbors (was: Yet more help from Hollywood)

2007-09-11 Thread Wilma de Soto
Dear Brian, You may be right that I have it backwards. Who knows? I really do not want to get into any hassles as to why you or anyone else wanted to form another listserv. You certainly have that right. My opinion was that it appeared to me the rationale was to distance yourselves from a cert

[UC] Re: [Ucneighbors] Need exterminator recommendation

2007-09-11 Thread Ann Mayer
Mantua Vector did a fantastic job when I had a major problem with mice several years ago. Cindy was the expert who helped me out. *Mantua** Community Vector Control* *3946 Lancaster Ave**, Philadelphia, PA 19104* *Telephone: (215) 222-7378* Ann On 9/10/07, Brian Siano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: [UC] public support/ the defectors to UCNeighbors (was: Yet more help from Hollywood)

2007-09-11 Thread Glenn
Siano writes: "The people who formed UCneighbors are, frankly, fed up with the crummy and hostile level of discussion that's emerged on this list. It's become tiressome, useless, and needlessly dispiriting. Yet you call setting up another list an "act of hostility." I think you have this _exa

Re: [UC] the defectors to UCNeighbors (was: Yet more help from Hollywood)

2007-09-11 Thread Glenn
Re: [UC] the defectors to UCNeighbors (was: Yet more help from Hollywood)Hi Mr. Dominick, Since you are new to the list, let me help you understand the genesis of the University of Pennsylvania censored e-mail listserv critisized on this public list. I have been a long term member of the Penn c

Re: [UC] the defectors to UCNeighbors (was: Yet more help from Hollywood)

2007-09-11 Thread Brian Siano
Wilma de Soto wrote: Those who were not gung-ho about certain issues such as the UCD, BID and other Penn initiatives were labeled as whiners, cranks, complainers etc. My point is those who originally formed the UCNeighbors listserv did so because they did not want to hear arguments from peo

Re: [UC] the defectors to UCNeighbors (was: Yet more help from Hollywood)

2007-09-11 Thread Wilma de Soto
Your analogy of non-moderated listservs with comparison to a drinking place without bouncers does not play. Of course, my statement about those who love everything the Univ. Of Penn does, is a bit of hyperbole, I admit. The thing is, this listserv is supposed to be a forum where we neighbors can