Re: [UC] Penn Alexander 100% low-income?

2010-04-13 Thread Meg Wise
Title: Penn Alexander 100% low-income? The School District's website includes economic data for all schools and lists Penn Alexander as 48% low income, making it actually one of the most affluent schools in the district.  As you note, it is impossible to compare schools when some of the data is obv

Re: [UC] FOCP response

2010-04-13 Thread Glenn moyer
Does anyone know why Mr. Chance does not subscribe to this listserve?Mary,Yes, I do.  Like Mr. West and Mr. Siano, he believes in concentrated power.  He does not believe in public notification, inclusion of the public, nor publicly available information or discussion.  (I know this because he send

Re: [UC] why community activists avoid this list

2010-04-13 Thread Anthony West
Liz, As I am a member of UC-list, you seem to believe I am insulting myself. I'm sorry you feel insulted and you shouldn't, as I think highly of you and most UC-list members whom I know personally. I am confident I've never attacked Wilma, who is a charming correspondent, although we have dis

Re: [UC] FOCP response

2010-04-13 Thread Brian Siano
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Glenn moyer wrote: > Does anyone know why Mr. Chance does not subscribe to this listserve? > > Mary, > > Yes, I do. > > Like Mr. West and Mr. Siano, he believes in concentrated power. He does > not believe in public notification, inclusion of the public, nor publ

Re: [UC] FOCP response

2010-04-13 Thread Glenn
Vice President of FOCP says: "And, like Glenn Beck, Glenn Moyer drops reams of crazy... all the while demanding that other people engage with him. It's not that his issues are valid, or even important; it's that he's demanding _attention_. His entire argument can be summed up as "Watch me as I

RE: [UC] why community activists avoid this list

2010-04-13 Thread Karen Allen
I know I'm opening myself up to an attack, but the same groups also do not use UC Neighbors. So what's being proved? Speaking as a Cedar Park Neighbors Board member for the past 14 years, CPN has its own website and a membership list that we use to send out information. Date: Mon, 12

RE: [UC] why community activists avoid this list

2010-04-13 Thread Karen Allen
I am a "community leader" b/c I'm Treasurer of Cedar Park Neighbors, and I read this list. I also read UC Neighbors. "You will not hear people who are actually in charge of ongoing projects engage in dialog about them here. Therefore, by definition, discussion tends to be dominated by co

Re: [UC] Meeting minutes was FOCP response

2010-04-13 Thread Glenn
FOCP Vice President: "If I accuse the Friends of being white supremacists, you have to publish your meeting minutes to prove me wrong!" Sorry for the second response to the Vice President's outburst at a straw man. I know many of you believe this type of post should be ignored, even if it is

Re: [UC] why community activists avoid this list

2010-04-13 Thread Glenn
Since "community leaders" don't "engage in dialog[ue] about [ongoing projects]" on UC Neighbors either, I guess that means that UC Neighbors' discussions are "dominated by the comments of the uninvolved an uninformed" as well. Hahaha! FOCP hides their plans; has closed meetings by unidentif

[UC] Dueling Listservs

2010-04-13 Thread Karen Allen
Since we're discussing the relative merits of the two primary neighborhood listservs, I'd like to make one observation: The actual reason UC Neighbors doesn't have rancor or hostility on its list is basically because they rarely talk about anything controversial there that would arouse rancor

Re: [UC] Dueling Listservs

2010-04-13 Thread Glenn
"Since I was actively involved in fighting the hotel, I intentionally saved all emails on that topic for reference. A similar email search using the term "campus inn" produced the first 400 emails, dating from April 28, 2008 until June 8, 2009. All of the list-generated posts came from UC List

Re: [UC] Dueling Listservs

2010-04-13 Thread Alex de Soto
Well done, Karen. I agree with you about one not being superior to the other, such as one listserv is rife with crazies and the other just talks swap meets, boat races and riding to hounds. There is room for both listservs and people can choose one or the other or both. On 4/13/10 2:49 PM, "Kar

Re: [UC] Dueling Listservs

2010-04-13 Thread Alex de Soto
Glenn, I raised the alarm because my fear was that UCNeighbors was formed to disparage and discredit the purple listserv because the people who started it disagreed with some of the positions expressed here and they had the backing of UPenn to lend legitimacy to their clarion call for people to aba

RE: [UC] Dueling Listservs

2010-04-13 Thread Karen Allen
Unon reflection, I guess this information does leave open to question why UC Neighbors never discussed controversial issues... Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:15:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [UC] Dueling Listservs From: wil.p...@comcast.net To: glen...@earthlink.net; kallena...@msn.com CC: univcity@list.pu

Re: [UC] why community activists avoid this list

2010-04-13 Thread Anthony West
Thanks to Karen and Brian for confirming my original point. A few "leaders" (officers) do read UC-list, and occasionally write on it. But they are a minority among neighborhood leaders. And neither of them uses UC-list as a medium for community outreach or discussion for their community group.

[UC] "that particular clientèle"

2010-04-13 Thread Frank
More on the Local 44 raid: http://www.philebrity.com/2010/04/13/pa-lawmakers-blast-plcb-plcb-uses-the-but-they-might-have-been-craft-ale-gangstas-defense/ Frank You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see

[UC-Announce] Klezmer concert (Su 4/18) and workshop (Th 4/22) at Crossroads

2010-04-13 Thread Daniel Flaumenhaft
Sunday, April 18 at 7:30 pm MICHAEL WINOGRAD TRIO (with special guest Dan Blacksberg) New & traditional klezmer, Yiddish song & improv "The wedding band of choice for the hippest of shtetls." – City Paper "Formerly deceased, the music now enjoys rude good health. A perfect example of this sea cha

Re: [UC] Dueling Listservs

2010-04-13 Thread Anthony West
Sharp and clear observations, Karen (most of which I clipped). It's not that controversy doesn't erupt on UCNeighbors. Last week saw a flurry of intense discussion that meandered from a community-garden conflict to carshare parking -- both big UC lifestyle issues. I learned a great deal. But

[UC] FOUND: tickets

2010-04-13 Thread robert rathmann
Let me know if you lost your tickets. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see .

RE: [UC] Dueling Listservs

2010-04-13 Thread Karen Allen
In my original post, I sought to be as objective as possible so that readers could draw their own conclusions. Since words are being put in my mouth, I'll comment: I found it odd that the UCNeighbors list, which Kyle created as a "civilized" alternative to UC List, did not address the Camp