was personally attacking you this time. I have
no personal animosity towards you.
_
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Mike V.
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:10 PM
To: 'Glenn'; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question
In a message dated 6/6/07 11:54:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I apologize, Glenn. I did misunderstand the meaning of that header, and I
agree that I was wrong. Frankly, the writing style of committeeman7 reminds
me of a different contributor to this list, so I was surprised at what I
this.
Mr Moyer
- Original Message -
From: Bill Sanderson
To: 'Mike V.' ; 'Glenn' ; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:52 AM
Subject: RE: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people
I apologize, Glenn. I did misunderstand the meaning
,
though-can we agree that anonymous letters like that inhibit communication,
rather than facilitating it?
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From: Glenn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:25 PM
To: Bill Sanderson; 'Mike V.'; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC
PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people
In a message dated 6/6/07 11:54:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I apologize, Glenn. I did misunderstand
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Glenn, I was also the victim of one of these anonymous posts which seems
to have a related writer. Back on April 2nd, the following email
appeared on the PFSNI listserv. I thought it was on the purple list
also, but I can't find that in my old emails. That writer
UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Glenn, I was also the victim of one of these anonymous posts which
seems to have a related writer. Back on April 2nd, the following
email appeared on the PFSNI listserv. I thought it was on the purple
list also, but I can't find that in my
apology for my incorrect feelings or incorrect
reaction?
- Original Message -
From: Bill Sanderson
To: 'Glenn' ; 'Mike V.' ; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people
What can I say? I
What a jackass.
- Mike V.
-Original Message-
From: Glenn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:43 PM
To: Bill Sanderson; 'Mike V.'; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people
You apologized for my feelings. You
Glenn wrote:
You apologized for my feelings. You apologized for my correct belief
that you were indeed bearing false testament against me.
When you apologize to someone, it is very important to be sincere.
Don't be pathetic in addition to what you attempted to do.
Did you want me to accept
]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 12:33 pm
Subject: Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people
In a message dated 6/6/07 11:54:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I apologize, Glenn. I did misunderstand the meaning of that header,
and I agree
. It was no accident that my character
was attacked with this attempt.
Glenn
- Original Message -
From: UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: University City List UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people
besides all this, I think glenn was treated quite badly onlist last evening, and it was chilling to witness the accusations, the speculations, the pilings-on, the cheerings from the sidelines (and yes, the silences) -- as well as the ease, the speed and the sheer malice of it all.people may want
@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people
You apologized for my feelings. You apologized for my correct belief that
you were indeed bearing false testament against me.
When you apologize to someone, it is very important to be sincere. Don't
MessageYes, I know.
Glenn M
- Original Message -
From: Mike V.
To: 'Glenn' ; 'Bill Sanderson' ; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:47 PM
Subject: RE: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people
What a jackass.
- Mike V
Subject: Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people
Glenn wrote:
You apologized for my feelings. You apologized for my correct belief that
you were indeed bearing false testament against me.
When you apologize to someone, it is very important to be sincere.
Don't be pathetic
MessageI accept your apology.
Glenn
- Original Message -
From: Bill Sanderson
To: 'Glenn' ; 'Mike V.' ; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 3:43 PM
Subject: RE: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people
I can only apologize for my own
the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people
besides all this, I think glenn was treated quite badly onlist last
evening, and it was chilling to witness the accusations, the
speculations, the pilings-on, the cheerings from the sidelines (and
yes, the silences) -- as well as the ease, the speed
Fascinating. Most informative, Ray.
I do remember righttoknow. He had a brief fling on UC-list a year or two
ago, picking quarrels and drawing complaints about his anonymity.
I also remember committeeman's post of about a month ago.
It does look like there is a tendency for the anonymous
I hate to be the one to have to defend Glenn, but I can't find any
evidence directly linking him to the anonymous email, or even any
evidence that shows that someone tried to frame him. Bill just
misinterpreted the email header info. Calm down, Glenn. The fix isn't
in.
It certainly is odd that
On 6/5/07, Mike V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hate to be the one to have to defend Glenn, but I can't find any
evidence directly linking him to the anonymous email, or even any evidence
that shows that someone tried to frame him. Bill just misinterpreted the
email header info. Calm down,
looks like i owe glenn an apology. thanks for catching that mike. and sorry
glenn.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Mike V.
Sent: Tue 6/5/2007 10:10 PM
To: 'Glenn'; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people
I hate
Thing is, Ross, the tools I was using to track the email aren't 100%
effective, and decrease in reliability the more I try to narrow down the
search. I'm certain it's Philly. I'm about 90% certain it's southwest
Philly -- but it gets a lot less exact from there. If you put a gun to my
head,
And that's assuming that our committeeman wasn't clever enough to try to
obfuscate his or her trail.
- Mike V.
On 6/5/07, Mike VanHelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thing is, Ross, the tools I was using to track the email aren't 100%
effective, and decrease in reliability the more I try to
On 6/5/07, Mike VanHelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thing is, Ross, the tools I was using to track the email aren't 100%
effective, and decrease in reliability the more I try to narrow down the
search. I'm certain it's Philly. I'm about 90% certain it's southwest
Philly -- but it gets a lot
Yes, and sometimes I send my emails from behind a desk in Old City. What's
your point?
- Mike V.
On 6/5/07, Ross Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/5/07, Mike VanHelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thing is, Ross, the tools I was using to track the email aren't 100%
effective, and
MessageI hate to have to do this, but.. Thank you Mr. V.
Glenn
- Original Message -
From: Mike V.
To: 'Glenn' ; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:10 PM
Subject: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people
I hate to be the one to have
On 6/5/07, Mike VanHelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, and sometimes I send my emails from behind a desk in Old City.
What's your point?
Oh, I see what you mean. Come to think of it, I've sent emails to this list
from Honolulu. But I'm intrigued by your methodology. Hope you have time to
Sure. Or they've got a line tap. Or they're using a proxy. But the
simplest explanation is most likely the truth, right?
- Mike V.
On 6/5/07, Ross Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/5/07, Mike VanHelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, and sometimes I send my emails from behind a desk
On 6/5/07, Mike VanHelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure. Or they've got a line tap. Or they're using a proxy. But the
simplest explanation is most likely the truth, right?
Right. And the message itself was clumsy enough that it doesn't seem that
much sophistication was involved -- how hard
Honestly, digging any deeper would be a big fat sack of work, and I don't
have the time or motivation. If anyone's interested, they can
cross-reference the header info in this post with the other header info in
the list and see if they come up with anything -- that would be my next
step, were I
On 6/5/07, Mike VanHelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Honestly, digging any deeper would be a big fat sack of work, and I don't
have the time or motivation. If anyone's interested, they can
cross-reference the header info in this post with the other header info in
the list and see if they come up
Interesting, Ross. Hmm, the average culprit likes to cut corners somewhere.
Wouldn't it be a tad easier for him to do this if he had a preexisting AOL
account? In particular, the AOL account he was customarily using to ring up
UC-list on?
If so, then the universe of UC-list AOL subscribers
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