RE: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-06 Thread Bill Sanderson
was personally attacking you this time. I have no personal animosity towards you. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike V. Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:10 PM To: 'Glenn'; UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-06 Thread MLamond
In a message dated 6/6/07 11:54:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I apologize, Glenn.  I did misunderstand the meaning of that header, and I agree that I was wrong.  Frankly, the writing style of committeeman7 reminds me of a different contributor to this list, so I was surprised at what I

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-06 Thread Glenn
this. Mr Moyer - Original Message - From: Bill Sanderson To: 'Mike V.' ; 'Glenn' ; UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:52 AM Subject: RE: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people I apologize, Glenn. I did misunderstand the meaning

RE: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-06 Thread Bill Sanderson
, though-can we agree that anonymous letters like that inhibit communication, rather than facilitating it? _ From: Glenn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:25 PM To: Bill Sanderson; 'Mike V.'; UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-06 Thread Glenn
PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:33 PM Subject: Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people In a message dated 6/6/07 11:54:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I apologize, Glenn. I did misunderstand

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-06 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glenn, I was also the victim of one of these anonymous posts which seems to have a related writer. Back on April 2nd, the following email appeared on the PFSNI listserv. I thought it was on the purple list also, but I can't find that in my old emails. That writer

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-06 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glenn, I was also the victim of one of these anonymous posts which seems to have a related writer. Back on April 2nd, the following email appeared on the PFSNI listserv. I thought it was on the purple list also, but I can't find that in my

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-06 Thread Glenn
apology for my incorrect feelings or incorrect reaction? - Original Message - From: Bill Sanderson To: 'Glenn' ; 'Mike V.' ; UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:39 PM Subject: RE: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people What can I say? I

RE: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-06 Thread Mike V.
What a jackass. - Mike V. -Original Message- From: Glenn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:43 PM To: Bill Sanderson; 'Mike V.'; UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people You apologized for my feelings. You

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-06 Thread Brian Siano
Glenn wrote: You apologized for my feelings. You apologized for my correct belief that you were indeed bearing false testament against me. When you apologize to someone, it is very important to be sincere. Don't be pathetic in addition to what you attempted to do. Did you want me to accept

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-06 Thread Dave Axler
]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 12:33 pm Subject: Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people In a message dated 6/6/07 11:54:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I apologize, Glenn. I did misunderstand the meaning of that header, and I agree

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-06 Thread Glenn
. It was no accident that my character was attacked with this attempt. Glenn - Original Message - From: UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: University City List UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-06 Thread Andy Frishkoff
besides all this, I think glenn was treated quite badly onlist last evening, and it was chilling to witness the accusations, the speculations, the pilings-on, the cheerings from the sidelines (and yes, the silences) -- as well as the ease, the speed and the sheer malice of it all.people may want

RE: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-06 Thread Bill Sanderson
@list.purple.com Subject: Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people You apologized for my feelings. You apologized for my correct belief that you were indeed bearing false testament against me. When you apologize to someone, it is very important to be sincere. Don't

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-06 Thread Glenn
MessageYes, I know. Glenn M - Original Message - From: Mike V. To: 'Glenn' ; 'Bill Sanderson' ; UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:47 PM Subject: RE: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people What a jackass. - Mike V

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-06 Thread Glenn
Subject: Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people Glenn wrote: You apologized for my feelings. You apologized for my correct belief that you were indeed bearing false testament against me. When you apologize to someone, it is very important to be sincere. Don't be pathetic

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-06 Thread Glenn
MessageI accept your apology. Glenn - Original Message - From: Bill Sanderson To: 'Glenn' ; 'Mike V.' ; UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: RE: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people I can only apologize for my own

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-06 Thread Glenn
the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people besides all this, I think glenn was treated quite badly onlist last evening, and it was chilling to witness the accusations, the speculations, the pilings-on, the cheerings from the sidelines (and yes, the silences) -- as well as the ease, the speed

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-06 Thread Anthony West
Fascinating. Most informative, Ray. I do remember righttoknow. He had a brief fling on UC-list a year or two ago, picking quarrels and drawing complaints about his anonymity. I also remember committeeman's post of about a month ago. It does look like there is a tendency for the anonymous

Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-05 Thread Mike V.
I hate to be the one to have to defend Glenn, but I can't find any evidence directly linking him to the anonymous email, or even any evidence that shows that someone tried to frame him. Bill just misinterpreted the email header info. Calm down, Glenn. The fix isn't in. It certainly is odd that

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-05 Thread Ross Bender
On 6/5/07, Mike V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to be the one to have to defend Glenn, but I can't find any evidence directly linking him to the anonymous email, or even any evidence that shows that someone tried to frame him. Bill just misinterpreted the email header info. Calm down,

RE: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-05 Thread Kyle Cassidy
looks like i owe glenn an apology. thanks for catching that mike. and sorry glenn. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Mike V. Sent: Tue 6/5/2007 10:10 PM To: 'Glenn'; UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people I hate

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-05 Thread Mike VanHelder
Thing is, Ross, the tools I was using to track the email aren't 100% effective, and decrease in reliability the more I try to narrow down the search. I'm certain it's Philly. I'm about 90% certain it's southwest Philly -- but it gets a lot less exact from there. If you put a gun to my head,

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-05 Thread Mike VanHelder
And that's assuming that our committeeman wasn't clever enough to try to obfuscate his or her trail. - Mike V. On 6/5/07, Mike VanHelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thing is, Ross, the tools I was using to track the email aren't 100% effective, and decrease in reliability the more I try to

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-05 Thread Ross Bender
On 6/5/07, Mike VanHelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thing is, Ross, the tools I was using to track the email aren't 100% effective, and decrease in reliability the more I try to narrow down the search. I'm certain it's Philly. I'm about 90% certain it's southwest Philly -- but it gets a lot

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-05 Thread Mike VanHelder
Yes, and sometimes I send my emails from behind a desk in Old City. What's your point? - Mike V. On 6/5/07, Ross Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/5/07, Mike VanHelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thing is, Ross, the tools I was using to track the email aren't 100% effective, and

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-05 Thread Glenn
MessageI hate to have to do this, but.. Thank you Mr. V. Glenn - Original Message - From: Mike V. To: 'Glenn' ; UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:10 PM Subject: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people I hate to be the one to have

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-05 Thread Ross Bender
On 6/5/07, Mike VanHelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, and sometimes I send my emails from behind a desk in Old City. What's your point? Oh, I see what you mean. Come to think of it, I've sent emails to this list from Honolulu. But I'm intrigued by your methodology. Hope you have time to

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-05 Thread Mike VanHelder
Sure. Or they've got a line tap. Or they're using a proxy. But the simplest explanation is most likely the truth, right? - Mike V. On 6/5/07, Ross Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/5/07, Mike VanHelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, and sometimes I send my emails from behind a desk

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-05 Thread Ross Bender
On 6/5/07, Mike VanHelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure. Or they've got a line tap. Or they're using a proxy. But the simplest explanation is most likely the truth, right? Right. And the message itself was clumsy enough that it doesn't seem that much sophistication was involved -- how hard

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-05 Thread Mike VanHelder
Honestly, digging any deeper would be a big fat sack of work, and I don't have the time or motivation. If anyone's interested, they can cross-reference the header info in this post with the other header info in the list and see if they come up with anything -- that would be my next step, were I

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-05 Thread Ross Bender
On 6/5/07, Mike VanHelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, digging any deeper would be a big fat sack of work, and I don't have the time or motivation. If anyone's interested, they can cross-reference the header info in this post with the other header info in the list and see if they come up

Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for tech people

2007-06-05 Thread Anthony West
Interesting, Ross. Hmm, the average culprit likes to cut corners somewhere. Wouldn't it be a tad easier for him to do this if he had a preexisting AOL account? In particular, the AOL account he was customarily using to ring up UC-list on? If so, then the universe of UC-list AOL subscribers