Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Raspberry Pi/Linux Getting started

2020-12-17 Thread ian_heys
Paul Webster wrote: > I remember the paper tape reader Can't help one more off topic reminisce: I remember these. They didn't come close to your tape speeds though. The paper moved along at 50 bauds and stopped at each traction hole where 5 small steel rods pressed upwards to see if a hole

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Raspberry Pi/Linux Getting started

2020-12-16 Thread Redrum
I enjoyed remembering the old days and hearing similar experiences of the "technology breakthroughs" of the 80's. Back to my OP, got it, thank you. I thought Python, but appreciate the confirmation and the suggestion of Perl. I wanted to avoid effort down the wrong path. For example, back in

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Raspberry Pi/Linux Getting started

2020-12-16 Thread Paul Webster
bpa wrote: > They were modified telex system which were circuit switched devices - so > when ,message were sent there was a "copper loop" between device,IIRC > signalling was done via current not volts and so guaranteed messages. > The company I worked, one of their products was a compatible

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Raspberry Pi/Linux Getting started

2020-12-16 Thread d6jg
Paul Webster wrote: > > I think that the only one that we did that was airline related was for > Iceland Air Traffic Control. > Surprisingly busy because of all of the routing over the north pole - > they had control of flights over the airspace and there were a lot. > I was sent over there

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Raspberry Pi/Linux Getting started

2020-12-16 Thread bpa
Paul Webster wrote: > IATA messages ... although most of our systems were in places that used > similar format but were not airlines. They were modified telex system which were circuit switched devices - so when ,message were sent there was a "copper loop" between device,IIRC signalling was

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Raspberry Pi/Linux Getting started

2020-12-16 Thread philchillbill
At college (EE) we had a VAX 11/780 with 4MB of RAM. I remember when it was upgraded to 8MB and student users got bumped from 1200 baud VT100s to 9600. Started out in DEC Basic, Fortran and Pascal. After getting my first Squeezeboxes in 2008 I decided to learn a 'modern' language like Perl. When

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Raspberry Pi/Linux Getting started

2020-12-16 Thread Paul Webster
IATA messages ... although most of our systems were in places that used similar format but were not airlines. I think that the only one that we did that was airline related was for Iceland Air Traffic Control. Surprisingly busy because of all of the routing over the north pole - they had

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Raspberry Pi/Linux Getting started

2020-12-16 Thread bpa
Paul Webster wrote: > > ZCZC ABC123 > RR CHICAGO MILAN > .123 > THE QUICK BROWN FOX ... > This was secure text messages on original teletype TTY ! All message began ZCZC and ended . I did work with Airline networks and with such a message you could halt a flight. The ASR33 was

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Raspberry Pi/Linux Getting started

2020-12-16 Thread Paul Webster
I remember the paper tape reader being PR: as a device (papertape reader) ... and this one looks similar https://www.vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread_record.cfm?id=737=1 from the back it looks like it could handle 60 characters a second. I remember the tape whizzing through it. In fact I was

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Raspberry Pi/Linux Getting started

2020-12-16 Thread bpa
Paul Webster wrote: > For my first professional work we wrote on coding sheets and then about > a week later we received punched paper tapes with the result of our > scrawl. > After loading them into the mini computer, the paper tapes went into the > fire safe for backup. Paper tape - and an

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Raspberry Pi/Linux Getting started

2020-12-16 Thread Redrum
Paul Webster wrote: > I used punched cards at university (first year only). > > and a 2nd cheer some considerable time later when we could use cursor > keys to move around in a full screen editor! ohhh.., I had forgotten about that! Writing fortran on a PC in DOS when a small canadian company

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Raspberry Pi/Linux Getting started

2020-12-16 Thread Paul Webster
I used punched cards at university (first year only). For my first professional work we wrote on coding sheets and then about a week later we received punched paper tapes with the result of our scrawl. After loading them into the mini computer, the paper tapes went into the fire safe for

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Raspberry Pi/Linux Getting started

2020-12-16 Thread reinholdk
Could add Algol and Cobol to the list. And I had the experience of using punch cards. The fact that they had no automatic sequence numbers on it called for trouble every once in a while... reinholdk's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Raspberry Pi/Linux Getting started

2020-12-16 Thread Redrum
paul- wrote: > Pascal yes, but otherwise I avoided that other stuff. I'm a mechanical > engineer, so coding is just for fun. > > I was lucky enough not to have to use punch cards. The university > installed the mainframe a year or two before I got there. I am an EE but also got a CS degree

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Raspberry Pi/Linux Getting started

2020-12-15 Thread paul-
Pascal yes, but otherwise I avoided that other stuff. I'm a mechanical engineer, so coding is just for fun. I was lucky enough not to have to use punch cards. The university installed the mainframe a year or two before I got there. piCorePlayer a small player for the Raspberry Pi in RAM.

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Raspberry Pi/Linux Getting started

2020-12-15 Thread Greg Erskine
For the Raspberry Pi, Python seems to be the language of choice, although we were able to write 99% of piCorePlayer using just shell scripts. You will find most RPi example code on the web is written in Python, so choosing Python will make life easier. The most important thing you have to do

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Raspberry Pi/Linux Getting started

2020-12-15 Thread bpa
Redrum wrote: > Fortran, you(we) are dating ourselves Paul- :p How about Lisp, Ada, > Prolog, Pascal, and Modula-2? Fortran II, BCPL and Snobol. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Raspberry Pi/Linux Getting started

2020-12-15 Thread Redrum
Fortran, you(we) are dating ourselves Paul- :p How about Lisp, Ada, Prolog, Pascal, and Modula-2? Thanks for helping getting me kicked off in the right direction, exactly the info I was looking for. bpa, I should have been more clear, not home automation, automation. My bad. At the risk of

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Raspberry Pi/Linux Getting started

2020-12-15 Thread paul-
Hey, I remember Fortran. Did that in college. My first Unix experience was also in college on Silicon Graphics machines. In today's Raspberry Pi, Python seems to be the code of choice. Its quite powerful, handles all of the interfacing options. (GPIO, i2c, spi, etc) Lots of code examples

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Raspberry Pi/Linux Getting started

2020-12-15 Thread bpa
There are many home automation (HA) platforms on Pi. Lots of ground work already done. Each platform has a different emphasis. Buy a few smart devices you need and then spend time getting them to work with the platforms to see the advantages. Python is quite popular with these platforms but

[SlimDevices: Unix] Raspberry Pi/Linux Getting started

2020-12-15 Thread Redrum
Hi, I need a little advice/direction... I am a retired electrical engineer with embedded hardware and "retro" software development experience (Retro - unix, qnx, C (before "++", assembly). So I know how to code, but am not familiar with anything relatively current. I actually remember using