Re: Back to LC & Inventive Users

2011-08-11 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Judy Perry wrote: > If you had a month, meaning, 4 long sessions or 8 shorter sessions, to get > an absolute Joe Public to make something small but semi-interesting in LC, > i.e., something they couldn't do in PowerPoint, what are the top 5 things > you'd want them to learn about program

Re: dispatch and the target

2011-08-11 Thread Pete
I'll check out the executionContexts. The reason for the architecture is to make it as easy as possible for users of the utility to start using its library, install its front scripts, get its behavior scripts recognised and open it's internal files. With this architecture, the only statement they

RE: Cursor woes

2011-08-11 Thread FlexibleLearning
Looks like 2 issues here. First getting the cursor to stick; second getting the correct cursor display. Lock/Unlock cursor should resolve the first; importing and using your own cursor image should resolve the second. local cHand=999100 local cArrow=999101 on mouseEnter if "button" is word 1 o

Re: Back to LC & Inventive Users

2011-08-11 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 08/12/2011 01:01 AM, Judy Perry wrote: I have a vague notion of a hands-on assignment for my classes next term involving having them use the 30-day demo and making something semi-interesting (to them) in LC. Apparently I did a really sucky job of articulating this to the first person I ask

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-11 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 08/11/2011 11:49 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 8/11/11 12:16 PM, Warren Samples wrote: The issue of payment and distibution is far more varied and complex than most of you seem to be aware of or willing to consider. As consumers your interests only reflect a very limited perspective. When fa

Re: dispatch and the target

2011-08-11 Thread Mark Wieder
Pete- Thursday, August 11, 2011, 9:41:49 PM, you wrote: > The dispatch methodology works fine but I'm finding that using "the target" > or "me" in the external stack's handler resolves to the external library > stack file not the stack that issued the dispatch command. I can, of > course, includ

dispatch and the target

2011-08-11 Thread Pete
I have a situation where I want to dispatch a message from a preopenstack handler to a stack in an external library stack which, at the time of the dispatch, has not yet been loaded into memory. The handler for the message in the external stack carries out various initialization functions, includi

Re: Back to LC & Inventive Users

2011-08-11 Thread Judy Perry
Many kind thanks to all who have thus far replied :-) Tim: The usual hyperCard tutorial stacks included address books, index your CDs (now DVDs or MP3s). These were good learning experiences that could produce truly useful stacks. --This was another matter I was pondering: exactly what k

Re: Back to LC & Inventive Users

2011-08-11 Thread Timothy Miller
Maybe interactive tutorial or flash-card type projects that will help your students succeed in their other subjects. When my kids were grades 1-2-3 I used hypercard to write a number of really cool phonics instruction stacks. Kept adding features. Text-to-speech. Rhyming. English-like phonics c

Cursor woes

2011-08-11 Thread Chip Thomas
Having some trouble changing the cursor, and hope someone can help shed some light on the topic. I have a "mouseEnter" script on the main card that checks if the target is a "button". If it's a button, it sets the cursor to hand. If not, it sets it to arrow. I've tried implementing this in two

[OT] You know when you've been coding too long when . . .

2011-08-11 Thread Marty Knapp
You know you've been coding too long in LiveCode, when you go over to your word processor to type a letter and you tap the enter key twice to save and close . . . ! (Or am I the only one?) Marty K ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.ru

Re: Back to LC & Inventive Users

2011-08-11 Thread Terry Judd
I've had to build screen capture capabilities into a number of projects over the last few years and generally have a lot of fun doing it. Perhaps not the easiest task to begin with but broken down into a series of lessons should be doable. A simple tool could allow the user to drag out a selecti

Re: Back to LC & Inventive Users

2011-08-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
Hmmm off the top of my head I would say first long session take them through the same kinds of things that real developers go through. Ask them at the beginning to write down their favorite thing, something that interests them most. The first session should be about the user interface. Show th

Back to LC & Inventive Users

2011-08-11 Thread Judy Perry
I have a vague notion of a hands-on assignment for my classes next term involving having them use the 30-day demo and making something semi-interesting (to them) in LC. Apparently I did a really sucky job of articulating this to the first person I asked, so, here I try, try again, this time in

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-11 Thread Pete
I'm thought musical works entered the public domain after some number of years (I forget how many) following the composer's death. One of the problems is that there is no international definition of public domain, all countries have their own. It's possible the publishing companies (not the compo

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-11 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Ralph, Ralph DiMola wrote: > > There's at least one other person who told their friends > to stay away from Napster. > Interesting enough, I learned first about Napster from Computer Magazines and never liked the idea. Digital stores like Amazon or iTunes and streaming audio on demand like

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-11 Thread Judy Perry
I agree wholly. However -- it's worth noting AGAIN that Steamboat Willie is STILL under copyright. If IP law continues in this direction, it and anything produced afterwards may NEVER enter the public domain. Also -- there's some controversy that the popular song, "Happy Birthday", is under

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-11 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/11/11 12:16 PM, Warren Samples wrote: The issue of payment and distibution is far more varied and complex than most of you seem to be aware of or willing to consider. As consumers your interests only reflect a very limited perspective. When faced with a decision like this, I substitute "my

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-11 Thread Marty Knapp
I agree with you here Bob. Your previous post seemed to me to focus on the individual "talent" who shouldn't make money because it was a "god-given talent." But my post was also a response to those who excuse taking from someone because they think they are rich (which usually means someone who

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-11 Thread Pete
As a working musician, I heartily agree with Stephen. There is a miniscule percentage of musicians who actually manage to make a reasonable living for their profession, the rest of us (no matter how good or bad we are) make do with the crumbs and leftovers. There is no justification for stealing

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-11 Thread Judy Perry
Indeed, this can be true; two sound-alike singers were hired directly from their YouTube performances as replacement singers for the prog rock band Journey and Dennis DeYoung from Styx for their respective tours. Judy On Thu, 11 Aug 2011, Roger Eller wrote: I agree. In fact, I witnessed the

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-11 Thread Ralph DiMola
There's at least one other person who told their friends to stay away from Napster. "I cannot speak for others, but I certainly do not. When Napster first came out and all my friends were going crazy over it, downloading everything they could get their hands on, I told them all it was stealing,

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-11 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 08/11/2011 09:11 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I cannot speak for others, but I certainly do not. When Napster first came out and all my friends were going crazy over it, downloading everything they could get their hands on, I told them all it was stealing, no matter how they looked at it, because

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-11 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 08/11/2011 08:55 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: . Once again I've started a controversy. Lovely; where would we be without you? Probably considerably more bored . . . :) My original point, which perhaps I did not make terribly clear is that there is a huge corporate machine that has grown up ar

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
I cannot speak for others, but I certainly do not. When Napster first came out and all my friends were going crazy over it, downloading everything they could get their hands on, I told them all it was stealing, no matter how they looked at it, because they were taking something without the owner

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
. Once again I've started a controversy. My original point, which perhaps I did not make terribly clear is that there is a huge corporate machine that has grown up around copyright protection, that is the main entity actually making the money, and often is operating contrary to the original ar

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-11 Thread Warren Samples
On Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:09:47 PM Roger Eller wrote: > I agree. In fact, I witnessed the rise of a YouTube artist, and bought his > very first CD because 1) he was that good, and 2) I wanted to be supportive > of the hundreds of songs he posted on YouTube (and I enjoyed for free). > THAT is

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-11 Thread Marty Knapp
Cool! So now all I need to do is figure out who has god-given talent (as opposed to atheistic talent or agnostic talent???) or who is "rich" and I can take what I want!!! My brother is an airline pilot - makes way more money than me. Has 5 cars, including a red '73 Chevy convertible. Maybe I'll

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
I feel your pain warren as I am also a musician. But I am not making the argument that people should not profit from their gifts. God knows none of the very talented people who use Livecode would lift a finger if that were the case! I am saying that when Christians need a corporate machine to ek

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-11 Thread Warren Samples
On Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:53:33 AM Bob Sneidar wrote: > But the very thought of having people pay royalties on what we consider to be > a "gift from God" namely the talent and the inspiration for the music seems > to be... well "quenching". The moneychangers in the temple comes to mind. >

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-11 Thread Roger Eller
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > As usual it's the middle man that is getting rich. But there ARE ways to > distribute now that can bypass them. Unfortunately, it's hard to rise above > the noise of mediocrity in that soup, if the artist really is exceptional. > > I have idea

Re: [OT] Blasted Flash

2011-08-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
I went to purchase an audio book of The Hobbit off Audible (or iTunes same provider) and was informed that I could not purchase it from where I was, because it wasn't allowed. Who refuses to sell an audio book in another country, especially the US where there is a huge market for it? But that sh

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
As usual it's the middle man that is getting rich. But there ARE ways to distribute now that can bypass them. Unfortunately, it's hard to rise above the noise of mediocrity in that soup, if the artist really is exceptional. I have ideas for a website that had some kind of voting system, where t

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
Years ago the large Church I work for had a recording studio and a record label, so that we could produce "religious" music and not have to deal with the secular industry and the exorbitant prices they charged for use of their studios. Some artists because quite successful in their careers, as t

Re: More time travelling

2011-08-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
I'll pitch in. That is a great idea! Get a list of names who will pitch in and we can divvy it up. Make sure the people who did the original story know it, and it can get some exposure for Livecode. Bob On Aug 10, 2011, at 5:50 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Jacque- > > Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-11 Thread stephen barncard
OK. This touched a nerve. *"I used to record off the air and it was OK" , "everybody does it" , "the music today sucks anyway", "the music business is corrupt"* All excuses used to justify the stealing of music. Not very funny to me, a 40 year music business worker. This was a profession f

Re: groove blox - started already. Need help with arrays and snap to

2011-08-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
Arrays are easy. To create one, simply put something into the first element: put "~/Music/GrooveBox/groovyarp.wav" into arps["track1"]. If instead, you want a multidimensional array containing all your categories: put "~/Music/GrooveBox/groovyarp.wav" into aTracks[arps]["track1"]. If you need

Re: Storing Data in Standalone Apps

2011-08-11 Thread G. Wolfgang Gaich
or you use a serialized array. E.g.: -- to save your preferences global gPrefs on mouseUp put the loc of this stack into gPrefs["Stackloc"] put the rect of this stack into gPrefs["StackRect"] put the backcolor of this stack into gPrefs["StackBCol"] put arrayencode(gPrefs) into ur

Re: Storing Data in Standalone Apps

2011-08-11 Thread Bill Vlahos
Correct. It has to be a separate file - either a separate stack or text file. Bill Vlahos Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2011, at 7:29 AM, Gregory Lypny wrote: > Hello everyone, > > My apologies in advance for the lame question but I need a little refresher > as it has been ages since I’ve d

Storing Data in Standalone Apps

2011-08-11 Thread Gregory Lypny
Hello everyone, My apologies in advance for the lame question but I need a little refresher as it has been ages since I’ve deployed standalone apps. To save data in them, and that would include custom props, I need to do it in stack files that are not sub-stacks of the main stack. In other wo

AW: how can I wait for revCopyFolder execution?

2011-08-11 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Ok, then it's the difference between Win and Mac Tiemo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode- > boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von G. Wolfgang Gaich > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. August 2011 16:06 > An: How to use LiveCode > Betre

Re: how can I wait for revCopyFolder execution?

2011-08-11 Thread G. Wolfgang Gaich
Hello Tiemo, my test was with a 26GB folder with many, many subfolders. it took 24 minutes and the script was hold until all folders and files were copied. Best Wolfgang Am 11.08.2011 14:34, schrieb Tiemo Hollmann TB: Thanks Mark, I will give it a try. @Wolfgang, perhaps the issue, why revCo

Re: [OT] Blasted Flash

2011-08-11 Thread Colin Holgate
Strange version problems could come up with any technology. It actually makes a nice change that a BBC clip is viewable in the US! For what it's worth, it's a 3 min 52 sec review of the new planet of the apes film, and I stopped it soon because it gives away too many plot details. ___

Re: [OT] Blasted Flash

2011-08-11 Thread Warren Samples
On Thursday, August 11, 2011 08:32:51 AM Richmond Mathewson wrote: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-14475250 > > Firefox 6, Ubuntu 11.04 No probs here in Opera on openSUSE ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Pleas

[OT] Blasted Flash

2011-08-11 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Well, I for one (along with Saint Steve) would be glad to see the back of Flash. Looking at this page: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-14475250 Firefox 6, Ubuntu 11.04 I get this message:/ /"Cannot play media.You do not have the correct version of the flash player. Download the

AW: AW: how can I wait for revCopyFolder execution?

2011-08-11 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Thanks Mark, I will give it a try. @Wolfgang, perhaps the issue, why revCopyFolder didn't waited in my case (Mac) is the duration. The copying in my my case lasts about 10 min (8GB). Perhaps applescript (which is probably wrapped by the rev command) returns the result already after a certain amount

Re: AW: how can I wait for revCopyFolder execution?

2011-08-11 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Tiemo, Actually, LiveCode waits until the AppleScript returns a value, indicating successful compilation or failure, but it returns this value before the copying has finished. So, it is a combination of AppleScript returning a value early and LiveCode not reading additional results from Appl

Re: how can I wait for revCopyFolder execution?

2011-08-11 Thread G. Wolfgang Gaich
Hello Tiemo from my experiences I can say that revcopyfolder is a blocking command. If I have in a script: revcopyfolder "myFolder","myCopyFolder" answer the result then the dialog pops up when the copy-process has ended I'm on Windows 7, may be on Mac it is not blocking (Can't test that) Bes

AW: how can I wait for revCopyFolder execution?

2011-08-11 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Mark, thanks for your quick answer, I will give it a try. Because you have another approach I assume that it is a standard behavior with rev commands, that they don't wait? Up to know I presumed that every command is waiting up to it's end of execution. Are there more commands, which are not wa

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-11 Thread Roger Eller
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 3:17 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > This whole thing seems laughable: > > When I was 13 my Mum and Dad bought me a radio-cassette recorder, and > I merrily recorded all the songs on the radio that I liked, and recorded > quite a few songs from gramophone records that belon

Re: how can I wait for revCopyFolder execution?

2011-08-11 Thread Mark Schonewille
Tiemo, Here's a sample AppleScript. try tell application "Finder" set myFile to POSIX file "~/desktop/file.txt" set myNewFile to POSIX file "~/desktop/file2.txt" copy myFile to myNewFile end tell on error myErr number myNr s

how can I wait for revCopyFolder execution?

2011-08-11 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello, I want to copy a big folder by script and wait for the result to prompt an appropriate message. But after fireing revCopyFolder my script runs on without waiting for the execution of revCopyFolder. Is this a normal behavior? Anything I can do to wait for the finish? Thanks Tiemo

Legacy Drivers - Documentation?

2011-08-11 Thread G. Wolfgang Gaich
Hello, in the livecode ide preferences/Compatibility there is an option to Use Legacy Drivers. Is there any detailed documentation, when to use the Legacy Drivers and when it is not necessary. I detected some anomalies using odbc with MS SQL Server and Ingres. Any information would be appr

Re: German revolutionboard?

2011-08-11 Thread G. Wolfgang Gaich
Hello Mark, thanks for the info. If you need help, webspace, suggestions contact me offline. I guess it could be important to push the communication in a german livecode community. Best regards Wolfgang Am 11.08.2011 10:34, schrieb Mark Schonewille: Hi Wolfgang, I will install a new board

Re: German revolutionboard?

2011-08-11 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Wolfgang, I will install a new board and will announce it on this list. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 What does that error mean? Buy LiveCodeE

German revolutionboard?

2011-08-11 Thread G. Wolfgang Gaich
Hello german livecoder, today I tried to go to revolutionboard.de. I got this: "Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server." Revolutionboard doesn't exist anymore? Best regards Wolfgang ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livec

Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

2011-08-11 Thread Richmond Mathewson
This whole thing seems laughable: When I was 13 my Mum and Dad bought me a radio-cassette recorder, and I merrily recorded all the songs on the radio that I liked, and recorded quite a few songs from gramophone records that belonged to friends of mine who could afford that sort of thing. At n